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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:45 PM
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Rumsfeld wants a US Progpaganda Agency
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/01/rummy-wants-pro.html

Straight from Rummy's mouth: "We need someone in the United States government, some entity, not like the old USIA . . . I think this agency, a new agency has to be something that would take advantage of the wonderful opportunities that exist today. There are multiple channels for information . . . The Internet is there, pods are there, talk radio is there, e-mails are there. There are all kinds of opportunities."
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:47 PM
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1. then they could privatize the propaganda agency
and call it Fox News
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:47 PM
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2. Goebbels smiles
If there were any doubts previously, this should make your head turn.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:48 PM
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3. Ah, what irony.
As if such an agency didn't ALREADY exist.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:48 PM
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4. Don't they mean Rummy would like to annouce said agency?
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 04:48 PM by Hydra
Because we already have whole branches of gov't devoted to that purpose already.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:49 PM
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5. Doesn't America
already have a propoganda agency?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:50 PM
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6. I thought he used to run one, called the DOD!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:51 PM
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7. He can buy a lined pad and a pencil at the prison commissary
It'll cost him only a day's wages


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:51 PM
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8. Nothing like a war criminal on the loose
"In Rumsfeld's view, the free press can co-exist with government sponsored/produced/paid news. "It doesn't mean we have to infringe on the role of the free press, they can go do what they do, and that's fine," says Rumsfeld. "Well, it's not fine, but it's what it is, let's put it that way.""
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:52 PM
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9. No one on the planet believes
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 04:54 PM by malaise
Bushco's propaganda. By their deeds shall men be known. Ask Karen Hughes: Bush's Spinner to the World

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0315-30.htm
<snip>
Have you been worrying about the image of the United States overseas? Have no fear, Karen Hughes is here. George W. Bush is nominating Hughes to be under secretary of state in charge of public diplomacy. That's the administration official who oversees the government's efforts to sell the United States abroad. No one has been in this position since the summer--which indicates just how much of a priority Bush has assigned to this task. With the United States' standing abroad at a frightening low level--even though Bush's belated response to the tsunami disaster did boost the United States' image in Indonesia--the White House has done little to enhance public diplomacy. That is, if you don't count Condi Rice strutting across Europe in high-heel, black leather boots. And the nomination of uber-hawk and UN-basher John Bolton to be UN ambassador hardly sent a signal that Bush is serious about working with other nations (and respecting their desires).

What are her Hughes' qualifications for this post? Well, she has been Bush's chief spin doctor since he entered politics. Once a local television reporter, she turned to the dark side. During the 2000 campaign, she actively misled the press about key aspects of Bush's past--most notably, his military service and his drunk-driving conviction.

Add.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:30 PM
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13. 30% of the US believes it. Just saying...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:57 PM
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18. They also believe in rapture
Just saying. :D
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:00 PM
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19. Right. But unless and until they get raptured, it's untrue to say no one believes Bush
I wish it were true, but it's not.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:57 PM
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10. Nixon proposed the very same thing back in the 1970s
It went over like a lead balloon. Hopefully, the notion will do likewise this time.

How come such proposals always come from Republicans when their popularity is at
ebb? When their MSM lapdogs are misbehaving, they suddenly want them replaced,
but when they go back to trashing Democrats, there is no further need of a government propaganda agency (since the MSM does that job effectively for them).

Maybe Rupert Murdoch hasn't responded to angry RW emails this week?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:15 PM
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11. All the advertising in the world
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 05:15 PM by C_U_L8R
can't make people believe that a bad product is any good.

The truth always comes to the surface, Mr Rumsfield.
And everyone knows the unfortunate truth about you and your kind.
You are a bad product.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:23 PM
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12. The US already has one. It's called the Fox News Channel.
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 05:25 PM by Rob H.
They've been the propaganda arm of the Bush administration since Day 1. If Rumsfeld hasn't noticed that, he's even dumber than I thought.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:31 PM
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14. Rumsfailed is a War Criminal. He admitted this on TV.
Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm


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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 10:56 PM
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24. No it's called the lapdog media--lapdog for Pugs...Pit bull for Dems. n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:31 PM
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15. That asshole's not in a German prison yet? Goddamnit! n/t
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 04:41 AM
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25. You don't want him in a German prison!
Since the Second World War, human rights consciousness has gone 180°
here in Germany, and German prisons tend to be model institutions.
Send him to Alabama or Louisiana (Angola!). German prisons are country
clubs compared to those places. Now just down the road in Romania or
Bulgaria, THAT might be a nice place for Rummy to visit. He can fly
over a few Agency detention centers on the way and wave..........
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 05:39 PM
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16. Fox News / talk radio isn't enough?
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:09 PM
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20. Apparently not
#1, they're not on the government payroll.

#2, occasionally (not very often though) they will go after neocons in power. For example, witness the RW revolt over *'s immigration reform plan last year. Put them on the government payroll, and you can tell them exactly what to say.

But don't think they wouldn't love to consolidate Faux News, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Beck, and the rest of those assholes into one government propaganda agency.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 06:11 PM
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17. I though that's what corporate mass media was for. n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:12 PM
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21. Well, America Already Has Fox News
:shrug:
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:33 PM
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22. don't they already have faux news?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:41 PM
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23. Ironic for him to be talking about "pods"
We'd call them "employees of the Defence Department"
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