Do you look at other guys' private parts when you're in a public shower?

[cboy4]

Poll question: Do you look at other guys' private parts when you're in a public shower?

I want to know for a very important reason.

I want Don't Ask, Don't Tell abolished in the United States armed forces.

We have thrown out enough translators who speak Arabic and the Iranian language of Farsi....simply because they're gay. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14052513/

One of the primary arguments from those who DON'T think gays should be allowed in the military is they're worried they're going to be "checked out" in the showers and that will make them feel way too uncomfortable.

I asked a straight friend (who's an athlete) about this, and he told me it is normal for straight guys to at the very least, quickly, quickly glance at the naked bodies of other guys in the shower just to see how their, shall we say, equipment and physiques measure up.

This is one of the reasons I believe Don't Ask, Don't Tell should be abolished immediately.

Do straight soldiers actually think gay soldiers are going to try to have sex with them in the shower if DADT is thrown out? Come on.

At least 36 countries allow openly gay people to serve including Israel, the U.K......EVEN POLAND! -- and I've yet to hear about any "incidents" in the showers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_military_service (list of countries)

***So be honest. Doesn't just about every guy, whether in the shower at a gym, locker room, military barracks, etc. check out the "scenery," even if for only a second?

BE HONEST!!

I believe the results will say a lot about this notion that big strong soldiers, who are willing to throw themselves on a grenade and die to save a buddy, are more afraid of being checked out in the shower.

I don't buy it.

And women feel free to comment as well! ;)

[mainegreen]

1. Nope. But then I have 20/800 vision. I couldn't look even if I wanted too!

Look! A fuzzy blob!

:rofl:

[unpossibles]

6. wow. I thought I was blind (750). then again, I guess I still am

my natural focus depth where I can see without glasses or contacts is about 5 or 6 inches from my face, so if they're that close, of course I'll look... :D

This may not be a popular opinion, but I think that many guys are so afraid of being scoped out by gay men is because they don't want to be treated the way that they treat women (or the way that women are treated in general in our society at the very least). I also think it's the reason that some of the more popular insults among that crowd are usually along the lines of someone being gay and/or the bottom of a relationship (ie: "cocksucker" et al).

:sigh:

ok, I'm going home now.

[PDJane]

2. I'm canadian, and a woman...........

And gays are allowed to serve openly here. In fact, we have had gay men in the military marry here........doesn't appear to be a problem for any reason. I think it's a tempest in a religious teapot, frankly.

[Monkeyman]

3. What is this high school

[cboy4]

9. You're quite the scholar, aren't you?

If you took the time to read my narrative, you'd figure out that I'm trying to prove a point.

[TahitiNut]

4. None of the above.

I couldn't care less. Seeing one's surroundings is not the same as looking, staring, or examining. :shrug: I'm not even 'interested' enough to put any effort into averting my eyes. It's of no consequence or import whatsoever.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. Nope. Never Glanced, Never Will Glance, Have No Care Whatsoever To Glance.

If it's one thing I can't stand, it's the sight of another man's privates.

[Reterr]

14. Why How Very Virtuous And Wholesome Of You. You Set An Example For All Of Us.nt

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

18. Your Bitter Sarcasm Makes Little Sense To Me. n/t

[cboy4]

15. I'm not going to challenge people's answers, but I find it very, very

difficult to believe that you have not even glanced!

Forget about glancing...you don't even have to intentionally look, for it to come into your view, right?

You don't have peripheral vision even?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

19. Not Sure Why.

Why is it hard to believe? Why would I have any reason whatsoever to do so? What could possibly be my motivation? Like I said, there are few things I can't stand looking at more in person than other men's genitalia. So why would I then voluntarily disgust myself? What would be the point?

As far as happening to see it in my peripheral vision, well that wasn't your question. I find it fairly disingenuous of you to imply fault in an answer based on criteria that didn't apply to the own question you friggin asked. But even in terms of peripheral vision, I do my best to even avoid that, though lord knows it's impossible to be 100%.

[cboy4]

27. If you've showered in a public shower area with

multiple nozzles and other naked people showering in the same area, then yes, sorry, it is hard to believe.

What, are you afraid that if you admit you've seen another guy's penis out of the corner of your eye that everyone is going to think you're gay?

Stop being so dramatic.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

28. You Really Need To Pay More Attention Prior To Replying.

I never said I never saw one and readily admitted that it's impossible to avoid it all the time. You're twisting my response and you're twisting your question, and you're also being needlessly defensive for totally nonsensical reasons.

I hate looking at other men's genitalia. There's something fuckin wrong with that? Guess what bub, there ain't. I simply answered honestly to your question and now you get all huffy cause ya don't like the answer, even though there is no reason to do so.

My question to you is, why are you being so dramatic and what are you afraid of that maybe some guy wants to avoid looking at other mens' genitalia whenever possible? Those questions seem far more valid here.

It never ceases to amaze me what types of things can set people off here. Jesus. So I hate looking at other men's privates. That's really something that bothers you? Well, get over it.

[MonkeyFunk]

33. LOL

"There's something fuckin wrong with that? Guess what bub, there ain't."


Ok, ok, calm down. We believe you. You don't like cock. :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

38. LOL It's All Good.

I'm always calm on here, even when I use stronger terms. :)

That was more necessary as a show of disgust for the poster's needless provocation and attitude then it was about anything else, for the record. It's so annoying how some just get defensive and bitter over anything, like you're out to get them or something lol.

[cboy4]

43. Yea, such provocation. Don't worry, we all know you're not gay....

"for the record." :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

71. Your Attitude Is Stunning And Hilarious.

There is nothing wrong with a thing I've said. What on earth are you getting so bitter about? :rofl:

[cboy4]

74. My attitude is "stunning" and "hilarious" that I find it

hard to believe you don't glance at anyone who is naked?

Who doesn't look when a naked human being is in one's presence? It's bazaar.

I'm gay, and if naked woman came walking into the shower room, even I would look!

[Ian David]

77. Maybe he showers with one of THESE

I meant the E-Collar, not the pitbull.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

79. Your Provocations Are So Juvenile It's Rather Sad.

[unpossibles]

102. aww. the little guy could drownd!!

:)

that's pretty damn cute, but it makes me sad when animals need to wear the lampshade...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

107. My Cat Needed To Wear One Not Long Ago. God It Was Sad.

Broke our hearts to have to put it on. I hope we never have to do that to him again. :(

[unpossibles]

108. yeah, that sucks. our cats are clumsy as it is n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

110. Actually Didn't Make Him Clumsy, But It Was So Hard For Him To Get His Mouth To The Food Bowl.

He hated the thing and you could tell he was 'depressed' during the time he had to wear it. It was so damn sad. You should've seen how much we overcompensated with our love as soon as we took it off. Guilt to the max!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

78. First, You Need To Escape The Narrow Thinking That People Do As You Do.

Not everyone's the same, friend.

Don't care what you find hard to believe. Personally, I'm having trouble figuring out why on Earth it would be hard for anyone to believe.

I don't like looking at naked men. I don't like looking at naked men's genitalia. You do, I guess. Well whooooopeeeeeeeee!!!! Who really cares?

The thing I find ridiculous is the fact that you asked the question, and yet when I answered honestly and benignly for some reason you and others actually got in a tizzy over it. It literally makes no sense whatsoever, but I've come to learn here that some will get defensive and give attitude over anything for any reason, just because.

So keep finding it hard to believe, but that's only a product of your narrow thinking. It is not a product of my opinion being 'bazaar', as there's not the slightest thing bizarre about it.

But I would ask that next time you post an OP that asks a question, that you also post a caveat stating "by the way, please answer in the exact way I want you to, or I'm going to get really upset and question your opinion as being bizarre cause I won't like it".

[cboy4]

83. There's a difference between not **liking** to look at the penis

attached to the guy walking into the shower, and simply looking to see if your penis is "normal" if you know what I mean.

Of course, you're going to answer that you don't have to look at someone else's penis to know whether your's is normal or not, but most males I know want to look so they can figure out in person whether they're big, small, average or whatever,

Because in the movies, everyone tends to be big.

Do you get where I'm coming from?

That's why your posts are generating the reactions they're getting.

It's odd for someone to close their eyes or look away when another naked person walks toward them or is nearby.

It is.

You can hate looking at other guys' junk, but I think it's very safe to say people glance.....straight or gay.

Come on OMC....all of us didn't fall off the turnip truck.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

86. Never Said It Wasn't Safe To Say That.

All I said is that I don't, nor have I ever.

I've also never been insecure about my size or had the slightest bit of interest in how someone compares. Undoubtedly others have such esteem issues, but that doesn't mean I have to. With all the honesty I can muster and putting the honor and good will of myself, my wife, my kids on the table, I couldn't care less about how big or small someone else is and I never have. I don't like seeing them whatsoever and will use some slight effort in avoiding any view of it whenever possible.

I only put my family on the table in an attempt to bolster integrity as you seem to really be having a difficult time believing me and I don't know why. I didn't think for a second my initial reply was actually going to upset you in some way and to this moment still don't understand why it has. I never said others don't look and as a grown man of course I've heard time and time again from others that they do. I just simply don't and have never found reason to. Personally, I've never even understood the insecurities men are supposed to have about their size. I can't remember one time in my life I ever actually gave thought to it. When I was a teen, I was self conscious about performance, both orally and otherwise, as you never truly know at that age what you're truly doing. That's what I used to be self conscious about once upon a time, but never about size. Course, as one grows, one also learns some easy tips about performance in all areas that then allay such lack of confidence issues. Didn't take me long before I found the key to it all: Quite simply, it was passion. Passion is the backbone to all of it. :)

Anyway, enough babble. I respond sincerely because I truly had no gripe with you to begin with and I don't know why you or others took issue with my opinion. It is what it is, and I hope you understand that. I know I'm a rare breed in so many ways but I never thought for a second that my opinion on this topic was something that could be considered atypical. I'm still not sure it is, but now you got me wondering if it's one more thing I'm not like others with. Who the fuck knows. All I know is that it is what it is and there's no reason my opinion should be bothersome to you.

On a side note, you just got me thinking about something else I always thought was like everyone else, but as I've grown have started to wonder if I'm alone with. I keep forgetting to ask people to find out for sure, so real quick, can you make your own ears ring, just by thinking about it? Like, if you think of a ringing sound, do your ears start to actually ring, each and every time?

[cboy4]

92. It's bothersome to me because you decided to participate in

a thread that I started and I don't think you're being honest about a survey I'm fielding about an important overall issue. (DADT)

Here's what I think is an honest response from a heterosexual like yourself who is not a big fan of looking at naked guys:

gravity (139 posts) Fri Feb-23-07 06:17 PM
Response to Original message
89.

My first reaction is to look away

But then I usually sneak a second look to size up

EXACTLY. That's what guys do.
================

I've already admitted I would look at a naked woman if she started showering next to me, and I'm gay! ... not a big fan of the vagina, but hell yea I'll look because I'm curious and it's human nature.

You're obviously entitled to your answer and your views.

However, if this were a trial, you would be hard pressed to find ONE juror who believes a word you say about whether you've looked at another naked guy. Everyone with eye balls has does it and it's no big fricken deal. Except for you. :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

Okey Dokey. If You're Going To Continue With This Unbelievably Narrow Perception, Than I Can't Help

you.

My apologies for thinkin for a second that you were actually able to have a rational discussion about this. I regret having replied to you in a sincere way above and wouldn't have had I known you'd still respond with such limited ability in reasoning.

Your copied post above followed by the declaration of "Exactly, that's what guys do", shows just how limited you are in this discussion and how closed minded you are. I would classify your declaration as one of the silliest I've seen on here. I mean, "exactly, that's what guys do"? Are you for real?

Got news for ya pal, that's not what guys do. That's what some guys do. It is now clear that you were only allowing yourself to consider one response and one response only in this poll, and I can't think of anything sadder. I find it hilarious that you claim above you had serious intent with a survey about a serious issue to you, yet you will only allow one answer as acceptable. I find your sentiment to be nothing short of ludicrous.

Guess what. You wanted the survey and you wanted honest answers. You got one. You don't like it? Tough. It's part of the survey results anyway.

You may want to convince yourself that all guys glance and that they are driven to. Many do, many don't. That's a fact. Get over it.

[Marrah_G]

89. If you are not going to listen to someone's answer....

..why the heck did you bother to ask the question? You asked, he answered. Just because it isn't the answer YOU would give doesn't make it "bazaar" or wrong or any other damn thing.

[cboy4]

93. Ummm. This is a discussion board. You ask, then you listen and

then you respond if you care to do so.

He's a big boy and can speak for himself, so you can run along. But thanks anyway.

[Marrah_G]

98. Run along?

I will when I am ready.

You forgot the listening part.

You should have posted "all men look at other mens penises in the shower, don't bother to respond since I have all the answers".

Why do you care whether or not he looks at other guys penises and why does it somehow reflect badly on him in yours eyes because he says he does not?

You didn't want a discussion, you were looking for some drama. You got what you wanted.

[cboy4]

104. Terrific.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

106. I'd Say That Poster's Response Was Actually Quite Spot On.

Is that why you are so dismissive of it?

[Name removed]

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[Matariki]

97. sort of curious why you included "No. I never glance over and look...even discretely"

if you weren't prepared to accept it as an answer?

[Cruzan]

58. Well it does seem a little odd

I can certainly understand disinterest, but to actively find a natural human body part disgusting seems at least a little unusual.

[Ian David]

69. I find the human spleen disgusting.

But I don't recall ever seeing one in the shower.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

70. Oh For Chrissakes.

The fact that so many of you feel the need to throw your two cents in towards my opinion, as if there was something wrong with it to begin with, is just so beyond ridiculous.

There's nothing unusual about my reply at all, no matter how much some of you want to make it out like there was. I mean this has to be one of the most ridiculous reactionary and defensive subthreads I've ever seen. I'm cracking up over it! :rofl:

[Ian David]

42. Did the person (Reply #5) on my ignore list say something interesting? n/t

[retread]

51. He is disgusted by the sight of other men's genitalia. See what you miss by

having him on ignore.

[k_jerome]

55. i am disgusted as well...

when the genitalia are larger than my own.

[cboy4]

64. ...

:spray:

[Duncan Grant]

73. ROFL!

:rofl:

[Ian David]

61. I think it's more likely he's disgusted by his own reaction to other men's genitalia

Granted, other mens' penises not the most attractive things in the world, but neither are naked molerats. Yet I'm not concerned about encountering either of those in a public shower, so long as they're not running around loose.

Or peeing on the floor.


Edited to add: Can't hear you!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

67. Nope. I'm Perfectly Fine With It.

Course, I think that fact that some of you are so disturbed by my opinion shows you got some issues.

[cboy4]

65. Uh sure.

:eyes:

[XboxWarrior]

53. Never even watched any porn?

or do you just watch lesbian porn......

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

68. Of Course. But I'm Talking About In Person.

Though I don't exactly enjoy focusing on it on tv either, it's not nearly the same reaction as viewing it up close and personal lol.

[Warren DeMontague]

84. Another man's Lieutenant, however, is fair game.

It's all about rank!

[k_jerome]

7. straight here, and hell yeah...

gotta see how i stack up ya know.

[sakabatou]

8. The shower stalls at my gym have screens

:shrug:

[SoFlaJet]

10. I'm never IN a public shower

so we need another catergory-but when I'm in the Men's room and there's a guy next to me-do I glance over at his penis? nope never

[cboy4]

16. whatever.

LOL just kidding

[terrya]

11. I belonged to a Bally's.

And they had public showers. And...you'd better believe the heteros were checking each other out. Just for the briefest moment. But they did.

Completely agree with you. DADT is bullshit and needs to go NOW.

[maveric]

12. "Meat gazing"?

Sure. To check out the competition.

[ThomCat]

13. Yes, of course.

:)

[Reterr]

17. I didn't vote in the poll since its for men, but I certainly look at the bodies of other women

at the gym sometimes. Its natural curiosity I guess :shrug:. I mean, I don't sit there and stare, but I have certainly stolen covert glances at the very fit women with attractive bodies.
It inspires me to ramp up my work-outs ;). Also, looking at people doesn't have to have any element of sexuality to it. I am straight but I can appreciate a beautiful female body.

[cboy4]

21. I feel bad that I centered the poll around men, but I'm happy

you wrote something from a female perspective!

I find women to be far, far more honest about issues like this than men! :)

[Reterr]

22. No problem. I heartily agree that members of the GLBT community should able

to join the military openly :).

[cboy4]

32. Well thank you.

That's nice of you to say. :)

[quickesst]

20. I'm straight....

but if I were taking a shower with 20 women, would I look? And why would I look? Assuming you know the answer to those questions, it might tell you a little something about the poll, and why 20 straight men might feel uncomfortable. Should it matter? No, but it does. If the case is for "don't ask, don't tell" to be abolished, then by the same token, shouldn't we be showering in uni-sex facilities? Not so straight-forward and simple. Just my o2. Thanks.
quickesst

[cboy4]

37. All you've done is presented the argument against. You've NOT answered

why soldiers and Marines are more comfortable dodging bullets, bombs and risk becoming POW's than being seen naked for a few minutes by some gay soldiers and Marines in the shower.

(A) It's not like a million gay people are going to run to the recruiting office and sign up if DADT is abolished.

(B) Gay soldiers and Marines are already silently serving and showering, and you know that.

(C) I would argue you would get to know and become friends with many of these gay soldiers and Marines who cover your ass in the line of duty (and therefore showering would not be an issue.)

(D) Check the long list of countries that allow gay people to openly serve, including Israel.

Last time I checked, Israel has a pretty kick ass military.

So what. A gay person sees you (a soldier/Marine) naked.

Stop being afraid of the unknown.

It's astonishing some so-called tough soldiers are petrified about it.

It would be great if you could explain any of this as I presume you are in the military.

If I don't hear back, I'll deduce you don't have answers.

Thanks.

[Nihil]

91. FWIW

Yep, I'm straight too and ...

> if I were taking a shower with 20 women, would I look?

... damn right I would look! Not stare (having shared dressing rooms with
a mixture of male & female cast in the past) but to pretend that I hadn't
noticed ... that would be downright offensive!

I have no problem showering with other men (and know that I have showered in
the company of several gay men in the past) but I think it would fairly quickly
become obvious that I had looked at the "20 women" ... damn thing has a mind of
its own at times ...

Not that any of this has a bearing on your "don't ask don't tell" policy but
just to bring it back to the real world: people like to see the things they
like to see and will totally ignore the things they don't like to see.
(i.e., even if a hetero male saw the dangly bits of another hetero male,
it wouldn't count as an event worth remembering so why bother with the poll?)

[Bobbie Jo]

23. Only when I shower with guys....

But then again...I'm a girl. :P

[Name removed]

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[WinkyDink]

25. I stepped into DataLounge Land......

[etherealtruth]

26. don't ask don't tell is an abomination

How many highly skilled people has the military lost (or never had) because of this asinine policy.

In answer to your question ... The only guys I've showered with are those whom I had a relationship with, so heck yes I looked ... On the other hand I worked as a nurse for over a decade and saw a large amount of unclad bodies, NEVER once did I look at them with desire/ sexual interest.

[sniffa]

29. onLy if they're hot

[k_jerome]

34. so you're that big muscular dude following me around. i was scared. nt.

[MoonRiver]

30. As a woman this poll is irrelevant to me, but,

why do urinals even exist? I've always wondered about this. What's wrong with just using the toilet in the stall? Men do this at home with no problem. It would save a lot of plumbing expenses. And, imo, urinals seem, well, somewhat obscene.
:shrug:

[donco6]

36. It's the stand up thing.

And if you're drunk, seeing a urinal is the only way you know you're in the men's room.

[frogcycle]

45. on the other hand

I don't understand why homes don't have urinals.

The savings in water are huge. Also, to be perfectly blunt, the sanitation is better.

For one thing, standing in front of a toilet and aiming at the water does not always work out just right in the middle of the night. Nuff said on that

For another thing, even if the aim is perfect, the tendency for water to splash when a stream of liquid enters it from a couple of feet creates all these droplets that float about in the atmosphere, settle on the walls and floor and whatnot.

And lastly, the whole seat up/seat down issue would go away.

So urinals are good. Good for the environment globally due to saving water usage (which indirectly reduces energy consumption from pumping, purifying, sewage treatment) and good for the environment around the toilet.

This, of course, assumes the urinator stands reasonably close to the urinal and aims generally downward. If you look at the floor in front of most urinals in heavy use areas (bars, ballparks) it is clear THAT isn't so.

Sign over urinal in a men's room in Gatlinburg, Tn: "Please stand close. Many people in East Tennessee go barefoot"

Sign in another men's room: We aim to please. You aim too, please.

[karlrschneider]

60. We put urinals in our bathrooms 15 years ago! Saves 3 to 4 thousand gallons of water

per month...and they are easy to install (no 'solids' so the drain pipe is small.) I think it's a shame
they're not in every house. Flushing 4 gallons down a regular toilet for 6 ounces of pee is stupid.
...

[MoonRiver]

80. In response to you, frogcycle, and donco,

I think I get the picture. But I may have gotten a little more information than I wanted to know! :D

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

82. A Lot Easier To Aim In A Urinal, And You Don't Have To Worry Bout Overspray Since No One's Gonna Be

sittin on it. They also probably use less water.

[ContraBass Black]

96. Urinals take up far less space than full toilets.

[gravity]

103. Speaking of urinals

Don't you guys hate the smaller pot shaped urinals that give you no privacy from the person next to you.

[xultar]

31. AbsoFUCKINlutely! Without a doubt....OH you were askin men. Sorry...

[donco6]

35. How can you NOT?

I mean - like you said - it's RIGHT THERE.

[B Calm]

39. I do my best to look them in the face.

[OregonBi]

40. Of course I do!

It is a healthy human action to view, lust, and fantasize over the body of another human being and anyone that denies it just is not right. I have been in public showers many times, at my athletic club, while in the Boy Scouts, and while in college sports. There have been many times I noticed another man's physique only to return home and fantasize of having wild sex with him either by myself (hint, hint) or while with my partner!
My partner and I both have healthy sex lives and feel there is nothing wrong with enjoying our bodies with whom we CHOOSE and fantasizing about those, we see. Male, female, young, old - there is nothing wrong with the human body and we should NEVER be ashamed of wanting any human body to play with!

Isn’t that a fundamental part of living free?

[northofdenali]

41. Would if I could..........

Hey, I may be married, but I ain't dead! :rofl:

They might object to a 52 year old woman ogling them, however.... :P

[Ian David]

44. How else can you be sure they're not peeing in the shower? n/t

[B Calm]

46. ha ha.. best reply yet..

[frogcycle]

47. not that there's anything wrong with that

[Ian David]

48. I KNEW that was you! n/t

[Blue-Jay]

57. FTW!

:rofl:

[frogcycle]

49. tried my durndest to be honest

and the answer is no, never, not even sneaking a peak

I tried to recall all the times I might have had the opportunity, and ask myself whether I did look. Bottom line answer: I cannot recall ever getting a good look at "someone else's" - period.
Not in the shower, not in the dressing room, not at a public trough-style urinal. It's always "eyes straight and level." Except if sitting on a bench, in which case it's focus on your feet.

Why?

Dunno

No doubt a level of teenage angst over being "caught looking" and having "someone thinking I'm a ..." (from long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away) established that, and I suspect it just got ingrained along with the military discipline I grew up with that instilled things like respecting the flag, treating women with "courtesy". Now its just the way I am. No logic; just the way things are.

Am I curious?
No

I have what I have; it's gonna have to do; I am not interested in comparing. I suspect I would not be all that pleased with the comparison.

[Name removed]

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[Beelzebud]

52. I'm a human being. Of course I do!

[SidDithers]

54. "Hey, Bob! Hey, your penis looks great today."...

Bob: Thanks, Jack. Yours too.

Ted: Hey, Bob.

Bob: Hey, Ted. How's your penis?

Ted: Not bad.

Bob: Good. Hey, I'd like you guys to meet Doug.

Jack: Hey, Doug.

Doug: Hey, guys.

Jack: Hey, pretty small penis there, Doug.

Doug: Huh?

Ted: Yeah. You could pick a lock with that penis.

From SNL's classic Nude Beach skit, where the word "penis" was used 47 times in that short scene.
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/88/88bnudebeach.phtml

Sid

[OregonBi]

62. HA!

ROTHLMAO!!!

[Porcupine]

56. Well one guy did have all this hardware....

hanging from his family jewels one day at the gym. I mean HARDWARE; this guy could never get within a block of a cat scan machine.

That commands attention. Otherwise no.

[gollygee]

59. I asked my husband - he said he doesn't look

he said the etiquette is to not look. Whatever. But he said he doesn't care if other guys look, and he doesn't care if other guys in the shower are gay. A friend at his work is gay and they have a gym at his work so he probably has showered with an openly gay guy I suppose.

If I'm showering with women I don't pay much attention but I don't think we have the same "measuring up" issues. Also I don't think straight women generally care if they shower with lesbians. I mean, a lot of women's sports teams have lesbians who are open about their sexuality and it doesn't even come up as an issue. I can't imagine caring. I don't understand why guys generally feel differently in that respect.

[cboy4]

63. haha. Your response made me laugh! "whatever." LOL!!!

Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

Honest and interesting! :)

[Blue-Jay]

66. What if someone comes in with giant boobs?

Sure, you probably don't care, and you probably don't stare, and sure you're probably not aroused or anything...

But you NOTICE.

Why is that unthinkable?

[cboy4]

72. I'm gay and even I would look!!......This is my whole point...it

(my survey) doesn't have anything necessarily to do with sex and getting turned on.

When someone without any clothes on (male or female) walks into a room, walks down the street, is on TV, walk into a locker room shower --- how do you not look?

I'm not talking about staring or anything like that.

I just think it's human nature to at least glance, which is why I think people who say they never look are being phoney with a capital P.

[Blue-Jay]

75. Oh, I know what YOUR point is!

I'm just getting a real kick out of the folks who fan themselves like Scarlett O'Hara and say "Oh lordy NO! I'd nevah peek at another's dangly bits! That would give me the vapors!"

I mean....C'MON...

This has been a hilarious thread. "Nope! I've never even accidentally glanced at a penis that wasn't attached to me! No way! Not me!"

hahahahahahaha! LIARS!

Thanks for a good Friday night guffaw!

[Marr]

76. No, I just laugh.

That's how amazingly manly I am. God damn, I'm impressive.

If you'll excuse me, I have to go lift weights now if I'm going to have time to oil my gun before I race my motorcycle this evening.

Also, *burp*.

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

81. I draw the line at taking pictures. n/t

[gravity]

85. My first reaction is to look away

But then I usually sneak a second look to size up

[MrSlayer]

87. I don't go to public showers.

But I was involved in a lot of naked parties back in my band days. Everybody saw what everyone else had, guys and girls. It's not a big deal.

[Tyo]

88. I'll take a quick glance or maybe two.

But only when there's something worth looking at. I'm gay and I tend to look at the complete package rather than focus only on the "hardware". Believe me, most of what populates the showers at my gym is of academic interest only, if that. Straight guys have a highly inflated concept of how desirable they are to their gay brethren.B-)

[LifeDuringWartime]

90. never used a public shower

nope

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[Matariki]

99. why are men obsessed with the size of their dicks

i mean especially in comaparison to other men? i really don't get it. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with sex.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

105. Not All Of Them Are. I Would Think Only The Woefully Insecure Are.

Even though some here want to make it appear as though all men do it, I'm still of the opinion that there are a ton that don't, and those that do are mentally immature to a degree. I would love to do a survey to see if those that do so also are the same ones that ogle over magazine covers and engage in high fives while declaring "yeahhhhhh she's hot! I'd do her!" and other sexually immature type sentiments. Now granted, I know a lot of guys engage in such behavior but I also know that a ton do not. I think it would be quite interesting to see if those that do are also the very same ones who are insecure about their genitalia and constantly need to compare in order to see who's bigger and who isn't etc.

[Withywindle]

100. Well, I'm a woman but...

...do I glance? Of course. Do I stare? No, that's rude. Do I care if someone's checking me out? Not really.

For the record, I went to a hippie college where some of the co-ed dorms had co-ed showers. Sure, we checked each other out, but nothing untoward. I wasn't uncomfortable with it. I've been FAAARRR more skeeved out by men on the streets or in bars than in the shower!

[David Zephyr]

101. Shouldn't this be in the lounge?

:shrug:

[cboy4]

111. Some of the juvenile responses should be in the Lounge, but if

you read my OP from top to bottom, this is a legitimate issue.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell exists primarily because straight soldiers are purportedly uncomfortable showering with gay people.

This is a very important topic for gay people, albeit presented in an unusual way that requires thinking.

[flvegan]

109. Some of these responses are laughable.

Okay, homophobia aside, it's okay to say that a guy, who IS straight doesn't look at another dude's exposed stuff. Okay. Fine. Just don't start screaming it from the mountaintop.

Fact is, guys "size up" competition. Sort of like asking, if, at the same gym, if guys watch other guys work out, size up their muscles, etc.

In addition, those that say they MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT look, must be spending a whole lot of time concentrating on NOT looking. Wonder why?

Lastly, I spend a LOT of time in the gym. My last concern is going to be if some other guy is checking me out. Why? Because what the hell do I care? What if he IS gay? How is that different than me being in the same shower with a woman I'd consider hot checking me out? Oh, yes...it's relative to me. It's how I feel about it. I'm not afraid. I'd feel as flattered, flame me if you will, if a man told me I had some nice shit as I would if a woman did the same. Matter of fact, as competitive as guys are in this respect, I'd probably take it as a bigger compliment to have another guy comment on my equipment. Hell, he knows because he's toting it too. Would it be weird? Nah. Why should it be? I get folks at the gym coming up to me all the time about my arms or my legs, whatever. "Dude, your sweet arms are blowing up!" to me is the same as "dude, you've got a nice, big cock, there". I just don't care.

[cboy4]

112. The voice of fucking reason!!!!! Excellent post fivegan - - and thanks

for setting such an honest example!!

Well done. ;)

[Ediacara]

113. Locking

This has turned into a sex thread

[The empressof all]

114. Locking

Sex Thread? Flamebait? Either way....