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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:26 PM
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More Proof That Cheney Is Absolutely Insane
http://www.allthingsdemocrat.com/2008/01/23/more-proof-that-cheney-is-absolutely-insane/

More Proof That Cheney Is Absolutely Insane
Wednesday Jan 23rd, 2008

Newsweek has published an article titled “Fishing for a Way to Change the World” which is a lengthy excerpt from author Jacob Weisburg’s book “The Bush Tragedy”

I am simply amazed at the utter lack of sense or reasoning which the following revelation demonstrates as relates to Vice President Dick Cheney.

Cheney and Libby believed that Iraq’s potential to produce a smallpox weapon necessitated universal vaccination of the general population, something that hadn’t happened in the United States since 1972. On the other side of the argument was Donald Henderson, the heroic epidemiologist who led the WHO smallpox eradication program and later became Bush 41’s science adviser. After the anthrax attacks, HHS brought Henderson in as a consultant to help develop emergency plans.

When I visited him at his office at the Center for Biosecurity in Baltimore, Henderson recounted a surprise, unpublicized visit he paid to the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta with Cheney and Libby on July 18, 2002. Henderson flew down with them on Air Force Two and spent most of the trip explaining to the vice president and his chief of staff why he and other epidemiologists thought a massive vaccination program would be a terrible idea. Even medical professionals were horrified when they saw the range of normal reactions to a vaccination: grotesque scabs, lesions, and pustules. Henderson showed me a pamphlet that HHS distributed to hospitals to document the abnormal reactions: blackened limbs, uncontrolled swelling, and a reaction called progressive vaccinia, in which sores cover the body from head to toe.

Worse than the panic these reactions would cause would be the predictable casualties. According to Henderson, adverse reactions to the vaccine were estimated to kill between one and two out of every million people inoculated. The question of legal liability would be a nightmare. Henderson said that Cheney and Libby didn’t seem to disagree with his arguments, which he reviewed with them on the return flight. “I thought, Thank God they’ve finally gotten the message. Finally we’ve been able to get it through to them that this just does not make sense,” Henderson said.

When he reached his home in Baltimore two hours later, Henderson’s wife was waiting with an urgent message to call the office. “They were going to have a press release the next morning announcing that they were going to vaccinate the entire country immediately,” Henderson said. “I couldn’t believe it.” But after girding for battle and taking a 5:00 a.m. train to HHS the next morning, Henderson was relieved to be told that the vaccination plan was off after all. Bush had overruled Cheney.


Vice President Cheney was willing to see hundreds of Americans die and cause a nationwide panic in order to respond to a non existent threat. In fact this was worse than a non existent threat… it was a threat made from whole cloth by people determined to use the specter of 9/11 in order to drive this nation to needless war. Dick Cheney appears to have lost all sense of humanity, and oddly enough it is George Bush who comes out of this particular story actually looking like the reasonable one… but for the fact that he selected this freaking dingbat to be his number two in the first place.

Weisburg uses this story as a demonstration of the deadly earnest drive by Cheney and the neocons to protect this nation from what they were convinced was a truly dire threat by Saddam Hussien. In fact Weisburg believes that the smallpox innoculation plan proves that Cheney did not act in bad faith during the lead up to war in Iraq. Yet Weisburgs benign outlook on Cheney’s motives is belied when considered against the recent documentation of the veritable carpet bombing by this administration of lies and deciept in leading this nation to war as documented by the new website The Center For Public Integrity. The graph in that report is particularly instructive. Note the spike in dishonest administration statements as they began the propaganda drive to war, right during the same time frame that Cheney was making his determination to doom hundreds of people to a grotesque death and cause a nationwide panic… before President Bush quashed the scheme.

Frankly, I’m not quite so willing as Weisburg to chalk it up to a misplaced sense of duty by Cheney on this one. Maybe I’m just too jaded and cynical at this point, but after years of seeing Cheney in action I can see him being the trigger to instigate a medical debacle, pointing the finger of blame at Saddam for the nations pestilence, further increasing fear and hatred of Iraq in the drive to war. I find it the height of irony that Dick Cheney’s response to a threat which Saddam never had would have been the cause of the first wave of casualties in the Iraq debacle Cheney was instrumental in planning. Just who was the real enemy here anyway?

I actually find myself hoping that I am wrong… but fearful that I am right. Cheney is lethally incompetent or just plain lethal. Either way it’s bad enough.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:32 PM
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1. True evil personified
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:33 PM
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2. Yet the headline implies we need more proof...
that Gutzon Borglum carved four heads into Mt. Rushmore...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:34 PM
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3. Absolutely horrifying. I can't believe I found myself thinking "thank God
Bush was there." That shows HOW dangerous Cheney is.

Recommend.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:36 PM
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4. Does Cheney own a piece of a company that makes smallpox vaccine or something? n/m
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:38 PM
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5. Cheney is pure evil.
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:39 PM
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6. Bush. Our hero!
:eyes:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:39 PM
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7. What a fantastic post!
Your subject matter is such a relief from the squabbling over the primaries. (I have promised myself to walk away from the GD-Primaries forum; I hope I have the strength to do so.)

As I read the quoted material from the Newsweek article, I kept thinking that Cheney could use the horrible reactions to the vaccine and the inevitable deaths as fuel for the propaganda war. And when I read this paragraph of yours, I said out loud, "Yes!":

Frankly, I’m not quite so willing as Weisburg to chalk it up to a misplaced sense of duty by Cheney on this one. Maybe I’m just too jaded and cynical at this point, but after years of seeing Cheney in action I can see him being the trigger to instigate a medical debacle, pointing the finger of blame at Saddam for the nations pestilence, further increasing fear and hatred of Iraq in the drive to war. I find it the height of irony that Dick Cheney’s response to a threat which Saddam never had would have been the cause of the first wave of casualties in the Iraq debacle Cheney was instrumental in planning. Just who was the real enemy here anyway?


:thumbsup:
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canoeist52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:41 PM
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8. he selected this freaking dingbat to be his number two
except that Cheney chose Bush to be his number 1 puppet
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:41 PM
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9. A dangerous, psychotic merchant of death
Nothing he touches grows or prospers, it is drained of all worth and left to rot.

Blood Money is all he's ever made.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:47 PM
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10. Nothing insane about this at all
Just as there was nothing insane about Iraq.

No-one in the admin actually believed the WMD shit (neither did any Dem) everyone knew the war was about securing the US economy via access to Iraq resouces.

This immunisation thing would have been a huge boon to pharma's in the way Iraq was a boon to Blackwater.

Cheney is not incompetent at ALL, everything has done has been calculated and quite succesful (don't be fooled into thinking Iraq hs been a disaster - in terms of the REAL reasons for the war it has been remarkably succesful)
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:53 PM
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13. Exactly. They got just what they wanted. However....
I still think they are insane. Because I've seen a good life without all that money and power. They've ultimately, in the final analysis, shit in their own bed. That's not very smart.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:00 PM
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17. Just getting Rummy his cut?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Donald_H._Rumsfeld
Gilead Sciences

"Rummy was Chair of the Board of Directors at Gilead Sciences until named to the Bush cabinet and, like Cheney, still has ties that bind to the 'old company.' Now isn't it an 'amazing coincidence' that the drug Tamiflu patented by Gilead Sciences is being pushed by the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases as the NUMBER ONE choice for flu, which, wonder of wonders, is sweeping through in one epidemic after another," Free Market News related October 21, 2005, from a January 2004 web posting.
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According to its January 3, 1997, press release announcing Rumsfeld's ascension to Chairman of the Board, Rumsfeld had been with Gilead Sciences "as a stalwart board member since the company's earliest days" in 1988.

"Gilead is fortunate to have had Don Rumsfeld," said Michael L. Riordan, M.D., "who founded Gilead in 1987 and served as Chairman since 1993," ... "and we are very pleased that he has accepted the Chairmanship. ... He has played an important role in helping to build and steer the company. His broad experience in leadership positions in both industry and government will serve us well as Gilead continues to build its commercial presence.'"

Rumsfeld served as Gilead's Chairman of the Board until January 22, 2001. Upon his departure, John C. Martin, Ph.D., Gilead's President and CEO, said "Don Rumsfeld’s insight and contributions over the last twelve years have been invaluable as Gilead has evolved from a promising biotech company into the worldwide biopharmaceutical corporation it is today." <5>

G.D. Searle & Company/Pfizer Inc

The 1997 Gilead Sciences press release stated that from 1977 to 1985, Rumsfeld had "served as chief executive officer of G.D. Searle , a worldwide pharmaceutical company ... During this time, his stewardship of Searle earned him awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:05 PM
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18. We must share a brainor somethin'
:-)

When people say how dumb and incompentent this Administration has been, i always think that in terms of "WHAT THEY WANTED" they got everything.

Biggest transfer of wealth ever. And we have to keep ttroops there ebcause tht is the only way that we and keep the Iraqi public subdued and we can hold on to their oil resources, and help Israel secure their water.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 PM
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11. follow the money.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:52 PM
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12. If you follow the money, you see that in so many cases the Carlysle Group has
The patent on this or that vaccine - I'm pretty sure that they have the ability to make the money on the smallpox vaccine. So Cheney insisting on the vaccine might not indicate a damn thing about what he thought Saddam capable of - just another way for Cheney to insure more money flow to him and his buddies.

I was surprised to see the estimates in the OP that one or two people out of a million would die - as a child in the nineteen fifties, I and almost all the other Baby Boomer kids were vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine. I have no idea if that many kids died. Maybe the high percentage came from the government planning on dictating to everyone to have the shots - even cancer patients and those who are seriously ill.

I knew a couple of nurses who were saying they wouldn't get the shot even if ordered to in order to keep their jobs - apparently once vaccinated, you were mildly contagious - meaning you might infect people in the hospital wards who were already sick.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:54 PM
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16. There you go.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:53 PM
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14. He's Demonic.
Cheney is truly demonic.

He is a demonic maniac.

A Demoniac.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:53 PM
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15. BUSH issued a stay on the mass immunization?
Yikes! :yoiks: When Bush is the voice of reason, you know this admin is FUBAR.
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InternalDialogue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 06:46 PM
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19. Once again, the Republican doctrine:
Oppressive solutions to imaginary problems.



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