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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:37 PM
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Daniel Ellsberg: Bush & Cheney "Want TOTAL Power"-"I Think We NOW Have A King"
Friday, January 25, 2008
Ellsberg assails warrantless wiretapping
Leaker of the Pentagon Papers speaks at WFU

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Ellsberg spoke as part of an analysis of the Vietnam War and Watergate sponsored by the Sechrest Artists Series and Voices of Our Time, both organizations at WFU. Ellsberg made blistering attacks on Republicans and Democrats alike, comparing the wiretapping of Americans under President Bush to the illegal wiretaps done by Presidents Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon.

He slammed congressional Democrats for supporting Bush’s requests for warrantless wiretaps out of fear of being labeled weak on terrorism.

“Unfortunately what this president wants and Vice President Cheney wants is total power,” Ellsberg said. “I think we now have a king. It’s not just a possibility. It’s not just an idea in George Bush’s head.”

Acknowledging that his lecture was mostly negative, he praised national-security analysts who recently threatened to release information showing that Iran had stopped its nuclear program, “totally contradicting Bush and Cheney, who were saying the opposite.”

The Bush administration’s decision to release that information under pressure showed that some national officers were willing to risk their careers to tell the truth, he said.

more at:
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354353648
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:38 PM
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1. Will they willingly abdicate Jan 20?
especially if the newly elected President is a Democrat?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:02 PM
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2. My thoughts exactly
I think people take this too lightly.
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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:06 PM
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3. We need to be prepared...
He'll be the next Musharraf
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:08 PM
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4. You are not alone in your thoughts.
They aren't about to walk away and leave all that incriminating information behind. Many of us are concerned about martial law.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:09 PM
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5. While the democrats tear each other apart, these two are laughing
hilariously THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP POWER.
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swoop Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:09 PM
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6. Everyone needs to not get crazy.
Of course Bush is out. He'll be gone next year, calm down.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:03 PM
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11. Time will tell.
nm
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:47 AM
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7. They will abdicate on condition tha the new President did as before
and sweep the evil deeds under the rug for the sake of "National Unity." :sarcasm:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:02 PM
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10. Only if the new president is the Clinton's
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:53 AM
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8. Only one head can wear the crown
We all know who is in charge, boy george* is just an evil puppet, the puppet master is a sick old man, not long for this world. When he's gone the puppet will not be able to control itself, then we either regain our democracy or breakdown into chaos.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:50 AM
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9. This is why we have Pelosi and Reid with their clear tables.
It has already happened, if there is a Democratic President he/she will be under severe limitations and a slave to those who created Bush Cheney.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:59 PM
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12. The Return of Dick Cheney by Philip Giraldi
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One would have thought that both Israel and the United States, not to mention Mahmoud Abbas, would have finally realized that there is no military solution to Hamas in Gaza, but the newer, more robust attitude is a product of the resurgence of Vice President Dick Cheney and the neocon hawks that surround him. Cheney and his friends are again planning to attack Iran before Bush leaves office. The Vice President's ability to dictate White House foreign policy went into decline last year when a series of articles appeared in The Washington Post detailing how he was the main force behind many administration policies, not the president. President Bush was reportedly miffed by the implication that he was a political lightweight compared to his deputy and he shifted his support to the more moderate policies being promoted by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of Defense Bob Gates.

Cheney's success at reassuming control over the foreign policy process came through exploitation of President Bush's mistrust of the intelligence community, which he has long seen as hostile to his interventionist policies. That the intelligence community works for the president and is structured with so many checks and balances that it would be incapable of playing such a role has long been irrelevant as the administration and its cheerleaders have sought to find a convenient scapegoat for its foreign policy disasters. The release of the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran in early December provided the critical wedge issue that enabled Cheney to shift the president in a more bellicose direction. As the estimate made a case that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program, it was widely seen as contradictory to the administration policy which has sought to demonize Iran and set it up for regime change. Bush, an immoderately stubborn man at the best of times, was not about to let facts change his thinking.

During President Bush's just concluded visit to the Middle East, this process of distancing from the intelligence agencies culminated in the president's telling both Prime Minister Olmert and the Saudis that the NIE did not influence his thinking about Iran. At one point, he said "I defended our intelligence services, but made it clear that they're an independent agency; that they come to conclusions separate from what I may or may not want." Bush also told Olmert that an Israeli intelligence assessment, which detailed the threat posed by Iran and claimed that the weapons program is again up and running, more closely matched his own assessment. The Bush claim that the intelligence community is somehow independent of the government of which it is apart is, of course, completely absurd, but it is symptomatic of the thinking of Cheney and his supporters.

Bush and Cheney are now back on track for a program of bringing American democracy to the Middle East through force of arms if necessary. When the Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell and senior CIA analysts briefed Vice President Cheney about the potential blowback coming from a military confrontation with Iran early in January, Cheney was dismissive, responding that the US could handle any consequences. The Vice President, who has reportedly been regularly disparaging US intelligence assessments at National Security Council meetings, has taken the position that CIA and the intelligence community have been getting "payback" for their being blamed for the poor intelligence that contributed to the invasion of Iraq and have been quite deliberately undermining American policy on Iran.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip-giraldi/the-return-of-dick-cheney_b_82566.html
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