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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 02:58 PM
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"Romney Cheats With an Earpiece!"
ah yes indeed. we have a video up in our forum and a thread on it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x87660

and on that thread Lirwin2 pointed out that duers on a debate thread reported hearing it "live" (so it wasn't dubbed in after the fact)
and Jennifer C has a screen capture of msnbc's blog with someone reporting it (and apparently that was taken down)

randi will be talking about it on her show today
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/

she linked to a website where i can actually hear the word "he" being whispered before the words "raised taxes"
http://www.democrats.com/romney-cheats-with-an-earpiece

so...in the future, I VOTE WE SHOULD STOP THE DEBATE AND DISQUALIFY ANY FUCKER CAUGHT CHEATING. IMMEDIATELY. IN FRONT OF THE VIEWING PUBLIC. AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BACK TO THE "DEBATE"

i also have decided to VOTE TO INVESTIGATE THIS INCIDENT AND HAVE ROMNEY THROWN OUT OF FUTURE DEBATES IF THE FINDINGS SHOW HE CHEATED.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:03 PM
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1. Guess they figured if prez shit-for-brains could do it, they could too.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:05 PM
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2. I heard someone say that it was an msnbc person whispering
If it was in Mitt's earpiece, would it have been audible over the mic?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:08 PM
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3. Question is, where did "he raised taxes" come from? Do we know for sure?
Was it someone in the audience talking to a background mike? I am not sure the assmitt is guilty.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:10 PM
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4. If you watch the clip at raw story, you can see mitt take it like a cue.
I appears, to me, that he waited for the cue, breathed and spewed his answer. Very bizarre, none the less.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:12 PM
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5. I personally don't give a shit
how the Rethuglicans run or ruin their debates, but you have a good point. I think their rules are that when you have all the money in the world you can do whatever the hell you want to. That's sort of par for Rethuglicans.

What would be interesting is to apply these rules to the debates in the general, and catch the Rethug cheating, kick him off, and just leave John Edwards with the stage to himself.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:13 PM
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6. Randi: it was a taxoff
:rofl:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 03:19 PM
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7. i loved the sound bite compilation they put together. n/t
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:44 AM
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8. Are you serious?
If this is true, I hope someone has concrete evidence to support this claim. However, I'd keep the facts to myself until the general election and if by chance Romney is the nominee I'd report it before the general election.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:06 AM
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9. I Thought He Is Monogamous?
:shrug:
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 03:47 AM
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10. This is quite silly.
If Romney was wearing an ear prompter, the only way MSNBC would pick up the signal would be another wireless mic through their board, set to the same freq. If that was the case, they would have heard him being prompted all night long.

This is an open mic somewhere, and unless it was one of the other candidates on the stage, Romney didn't hear a thing.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:28 PM
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11. "If that was the case, they would have heard him being prompted all night long."
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 11:35 PM by Heywoodj
Not unless the transmitter moved around (e.g. someone in the wings looking for a better view or to listen in), or unless it frequency-hopped for "security". Frequency drift is also possible - both the latter reasons explain the brief duration of the occurrence.

Russert wouldn't be whispering, in midsentence, the answer to his own question, to himself or anyone next to him. None of the other candidates would need to whisper that to each other or talk to themselves. The question was to Mitt.

The voice was far too present, too well picked up, to be caused by a pickup from the audience. It sounded like someone speaking directly into a microphone. Nor would a whisper from the audience reach any mic in the debate. Those candidates are probably a good forty or fifty feet from the audience, with Russert in between. Damned if Russert would be close enough to the audience to hear a whisper. That would mean he was close enough to be a security risk.

Why would there be random microphones in the audience to clearly pick up a whisper?

Why would an open mic near someone whispering be open for less than one second, and only on one channel. It's natural for an ear piece to broadcast and receive on one channel - no point in extra expense or electronics when it's only mounted in one ear.

The way to answer this is to list the possibilities as to where that audio came from, and to knock off as many as you can. Something's fishy here.
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