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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:16 AM
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NYTimes editorial board calls out Reid as a liar for claiming that he’s against telecom immunity
Editorial
The FISA Follies, Redux

Published: January 26, 2008

The Senate (reportedly still under Democratic control) seems determined to help President Bush violate Americans’ civil liberties and undermine the constitutional separation of powers. Majority Leader Harry Reid is supporting White House-backed legislation that would expand the administration’s ability to spy on Americans without court supervision and ensure that the country never learns the full extent of Mr. Bush’s illegal wiretapping program.

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With the help of Republican senators and the misguided chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Jay Rockefeller, the White House got a bill that, once again, reduces court supervision of wiretapping. It also adds immunity for telecommunications companies that cooperated with the illegal spying.

Mr. Bush says without amnesty, the government won’t get cooperation in the future. We don’t buy it. The real aim is to make sure the full story of the illegal wiretapping never comes out in court.

Mr. Reid — who is still falling for the White House’s soft-on-terrorism bullying — set up deliberations in a way that ensured that a better Judiciary Committee version of the bill would die a procedural death and that the Intelligence Committee bill would pass.

http://nytimes.com/2008/01/26/opinion/26sat1.html
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:21 AM
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1. There are liars, damned liars and god-damned liars
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:05 AM
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2. And Harry Reid is the latter...along with Rockefeller. COVER-UP
for the psycho-in-chief BY DEMOCRATS who get Telecom $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for their campaign coffers.

Our Government SUCKS. Really, really sucks.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:25 AM
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3. K&R
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:28 AM
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4. Get on the god dam phones to your Senators - send E-Mails - it worked 4 weeks ago
Why do you think they did not install the Intelligence Committee version before the Christmas break? It was because the phone lines and the E-Mail links were jammed.

For god sake, do it again!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:36 AM
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5. There are people at DU who believe that the leadership is spineless. I think leadership
is complicit.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:40 AM
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6. Agree!
This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:10 PM
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7. Thanking you for expressing my belief so eloquently and more importantly, correctly.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:21 PM
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8. I can't take credit for those statements
David Sirota is the journalist who so eloquently wrote that. Everyone should know about DLC's agenda.
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