An open message to any Military or National security folks reading or assigned to read this site:

[dos pelos]

What do you make of Zbigniew Brzezinski openly warning,in Congressional testimony on Feb 1 of this year of:
“some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran culminating in a ‘defensive’ military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan”.

What do you make of this administrations seeking a pretext for attacking Iran?What are you doing,as thinking,sceptical people,sworn to protect and defend this country,to protect us,your people?
Who benefits from a terrorist attack in the US?Whose policies are advanced? Is Brzezinski an addled paranoiac?Why would the US Senate seek his testimony?Remember you swore to protect us from enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.
Sirs,do your duty.

[CarbonDate]

1. Are you advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government?

If not, what are you suggesting?

I wait with baited breath.

Do your own duty, citizen. Democracy is based on SELF government.

[dos pelos]

2. I am suggesting that elements within the government itself...

are speaking to the possibility of a domestic terrorist event which would be a pretext for attacking Iran.That in the context of the current public opposition to the war that there is need for an "event" to carry the public into support for an extended war.

[dos pelos]

3. and further that there exists ,within the government,integrity...

...sufficient to recognize and check such movement towards threat to the American people,from whatever origin,even domestic,even from within the government itself.Look at Zbigniew Brzezinskis' testimony.

[TheWatcher]

7. Shouldn't you be watching re-runs of American Idol?

Back to sleep, please.

[JackRiddler]

14. I believe he's reminding you of the Nuremberg principles

Government employees and military personnel have a duty to disobey patently criminal orders.

And this is not only a democracy, but also a republic; there is a division of powers among institutions. In some cases they are supposed to conflict.

[Cobalt-60]

4. Residents who think they're dictators

are dangerous devices that need to be de activated.
It's not like the current Resident and the Vice Resident were ever cleanly elected.
They need to be arrested and conveyed to the International court for trial at minimum on the charge of waging aggressive warfare.
Our government never stops working. President Pelosi, the first legitimate executive since early 2001, restarts the presidency.
The government is not overthrown. On the contrary, it starts to function again.
And you, agent Mike, get the Freedom Medal, the movie deal, and the rest of the rich and famous hero contract.

[GreenZoneLT]

5. Settle down, Beavis

OK, quit hyperventilating. Nobody in the military, or only a few nutjobs, would ever sign on to facilitate or ignore a domestic terror attack in the U.S. The president doesn't have congressional authorization to attack Iran, other than an immediate counterstrike to an attack from Iran.

If you'll check the Times of London from yesterday, you'll see a story about Cheney wanting to find an excuse to hit Iran's nuclear facilities, and his being opposed by the entire military establishment, from Secretary Gates on down, plus the State Department, the National Security Advisor, and anyone else with a working brain. Not gonna happen.

[CJCRANE]

6. Um, it already happened on 9/11.

Some Saudis were allowed to attack and it was blamed on Iraq.

Granted it would be almost impossible to pull off a hijacking this time, but the borders/ports are still wide open.

[Big Pappa]

9. "Allowed"

And you know this how?

[helderheid]

16. Educate yourself:

Or at least let the Jersey Girl's educate you:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&

[Hissyspit]

19. Jeez! Where have you been?

9/11 should have NEVER happened. The Bush administration dismantled the Clinton administration's active efforts to track terrorism.

Bush was warned repeatedly, most famously in the August PDB. Condi was warned. Even I was aware that they would terrorists would likely attack WTC again.

"Allow" can connotate deliberate negligence, as much as conscious foreknowledge. Deliberate negligence is the LEAST that likely occurred.

[TheWatcher]

8. If it does, I would love to see the expression on your face.

And how you explain it away.

1. "Nobody in the military, or only a few nutjobs, would ever sign on to facilitate or ignore a domestic terror attack in the U.S."

Nothing more than your opinion? Then what are we all worried about? Let's catch some American Idol! All is well in Pleasantville!

2. "U.S. The president doesn't have congressional authorization to attack Iran, other than an immediate counterstrike to an attack from Iran."

This administration manufactured and fabricated false evidence and took us to war based on lies and fantasy. The President has overstepped his authority contless times during his dictatorship, including signing bills into law that weren't even passsed by Congress.

After all these people have done, if you truly believe this President would not start World War III, simply because of the above statement, you are living in a Rose-Colored world of delusion you cannot be saved from. Wake Up.

3. "If you'll check the Times of London from yesterday, you'll see a story about Cheney wanting to find an excuse to hit Iran's nuclear facilities, and his being opposed by the entire military establishment, from Secretary Gates on down, plus the State Department, the National Security Advisor, and anyone else with a working brain. Not gonna happen."

See my Response to #2.

[FogerRox]

20. TheWatcher, RIGHT ON. Can't trust the Bush Administration.

[ribrepin]

21. Appreciate your prespective from Iraq

And I'm sure you know more about what's going on in Iraq than I do. It's pretty scary that Cheney wants to hit Iran. Cheney usually gets what Cheney wants. The Neo-con's are already saying that Bush already has all the authority he needs to hit Iran. Bush and Cheney don't give a shit about what the rest of us want.

I don't know how long you have been in Iraq, but Bush and Cheney have taken to telling people who disagree to go screw. Don't be surprised if you get orders for Iran.

[TomClash]

10. It wouldn't be the first time! nt

[JohnyCanuck]

11. Is Brzezinski an addled paranoiac? Definitely not.

Doubtless he knows how Operation Gladio was used in the past by NATO/CIA/MI6 to demonize a targeted enemy of the day, and also he has to be aware of Herman Goering's and the Nazi's favorite tactic for stirring up war fever in the population.

'You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

This was the essence of Operation Gladio, a decades-long covert campaign of terrorism and deceit directed by the intelligence services of the West -- against their own populations. Hundreds of innocent people were killed or maimed in terrorist attacks -- on train stations, supermarkets, cafes and offices -- which were then blamed on "leftist subversives" or other political opponents. The purpose, as stated above in sworn testimony by Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra, was to demonize designated enemies and frighten the public into supporting ever-increasing powers for government leaders -- and their elitist cronies.

First revealed by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti in 1991, Gladio (from the Latin for "sword") is still protected to this day by its founding patrons, the CIA and MI6. Yet parliamentary investigations in Italy, Switzerland and Belgium have shaken out a few fragments of the truth over the years. These have been gathered in a new book, "NATO's Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe," by Daniele Ganser, as Lila Rajiva reports on CommonDreams.org.

Originally set up as a network of clandestine cells to be activated behind the lines in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe, Gladio quickly expanded into a tool for political repression and manipulation, directed by NATO and Washington. Using right-wing militias, underworld figures, government provocateurs and secret military units, Gladio not only carried out widespread terrorism, assassinations and electoral subversion in democratic states such as Italy, France and West Germany, but also bolstered fascist tyrannies in Spain and Portugal, abetted the military coup in Greece and aided Turkey's repression of the Kurds.

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Indeed, it would not do for the families of the 85 people ripped apart by the Aug. 2, 1980 bombing of the Bologna train station to know that their loved ones had been murdered by "men inside Italian state institutions and ... men linked to the structures of United States intelligence," as the Italian Senate concluded after its investigation in 2000.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/FLO502B.html

You can watch a 3 part BBC documentary on Operation Gladio online at Google Video here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=operation+gladio&so=0

"Nazi leader Hermann Goering, interviewed by Gustave Gilbert during
the Easter recess of the Nuremberg trials, 1946 April 18, quoted in
Gilbert's book 'Nuremberg Diary.'

Goering: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some
poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or
a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars.

Goering: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country."

http://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=235519

[windbreeze]

12. anyone who finds that unbelievable.....

only needs to view recent history...it worked here after 9/11, and I am not confident that it wouldn't work here again if those in power deem it necessary to bring the people to their bidding..
wb

[lonestarnot]

13. Hey two hairs.

I think it's windy in here, you may want to put on a babushka.

[Toots]

15. We can't be attacked because we "showed the world we are strong"

Cheney and Bush* have told us and the world this so it must be so....Terrorist attacks only occur in weak nations that sympathize with the terrorists.....That is why we must fight them over there so they won't follow us over here like the Vietnamese did. Didn't America learn anything from Vietnam????Might Makes Right....It is far better to be feared than to be Loved.....Important lessons from Vietnam..

[JohnyCanuck]

17. The Criminalization of US Foreign Policy

The Criminalization of US Foreign Policy
From the Truman Doctrine to the Neo-Conservatives

By Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, February 5, 2007

1. The contemporary context

The World is at the crossroads of the most serious crisis in modern history. The US has embarked on a military adventure, "a long war", which threatens the future of humanity.

At no point since the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6th, 1945, has humanity been closer to the unthinkable, a nuclear holocaust which could potentially spread, in terms of radioactive fallout, over a large part of the Middle East.

There is mounting evidence that the Bush Administration, in liaison with Israel and NATO, is planning the launching of a nuclear war against Iran, ironically, in retaliation for Tehran's nonexistent nuclear weapons program. The US-Israeli military operation is said to be in "an advanced state of readiness".

If such a plan were to be launched, the war would escalate and eventually engulf the entire Middle-East Central Asian region.

The war could extend beyond the region, as some analysts have suggested, ultimately leading us into a World War III scenario.

The US-led naval deployment (involving a massive deployment of military hardware) is taking place in two distinct theaters: the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean.

The militarization of the Eastern Mediterranean is broadly under the jurisdiction of NATO in liaison with Israel. Directed against Syria, it is conducted under the façade of a UN "peace-keeping" mission. In this context, the Israeli led war on Lebanon last Summer, which was conducive to countless atrocities and the destruction of an entire country, must be viewed as a stage of the broader US sponsored military road-map.

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3. The Ultimate War Crime: Using Nuclear Weapons in a Conventional War theater

Despite Pentagon statements, which describe tactical nuclear weapons as "safe for the surrounding civilian population", the use of nukes in a conventional war theater directed against Iran would trigger the ultimate war crime: a nuclear holocaust. The resulting radioactive contamination, which threatens future generations, would by no means be limited to the Middle East.

4. The "War on Terrorism": Pretext to Wage War

In 2005, Vice President Dick Cheney is reported to have instructed USSTRATCOM to draw up a contingency plan "to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States". Mass casualty producing events, involving the death of civilians are being used to galvanize public opinion in support of a military agenda. The deaths of civilian are used to justify preemptive actions to defend the American homeland against an alleged outside enemy, who are identified as "Islamic terrorists".


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The presumption was that if such a 9/11 type event involving the deaths of civilians (mass casualty producing event) were to take place, Iran would, according to Cheney, be behind it, thereby providing a pretext for punitive bombings, much in the same way as the US sponsored attacks on Afghanistan in October 2001, allegedly in retribution for the alleged support of the Taliban government to the 9/11 terrorists

More recently, several analysts have focussed on the creation of a "Gulf of Tonkin incident", which would be used by the Bush administration as a pretext to wage war on Iran

5. The Real Objective Of This War Is Oil

The oil lies in Muslim lands. The objective is to take possession of the oil, transform countries into territories and redraw the map of the Middle East

War builds a fake "humanitarian agenda". Throughout history, vilification of the enemy has been applied time and again with a view to ultimately justifying war and war crimes.

Demonization of the enemy serves geopolitical and economic objectives. Likewise, the campaign against "Islamic terrorism" (which is supported covertly by US intelligence) supports the conquest of oil wealth. The term "Islamo-fascism," serves to degrade the policies, institutions, values and social fabric of Muslim countries, while also upholding the tenets of "Western democracy" and the "free market" as the only alternative for these countries.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20070201&articleId=4659

[JackRiddler]

18. kicker