Where will jobs come from ?

[blues90]

Not to discount the Iraq occupation , it's costing a fortune and worse lifes as well as Iraq jobs .

I hear about more and more layoffs some at 37% higher than last year , without jobs we can't do anything and there seems to be no end in sight .

I don't hear much at all from the candidates about jobs other than the promise of green jobs , so is everyone going to put up solar panels or grow switch grass or corn ? Are we to build muli seated bicycles and be paid to pedal as fast as we can to produce electric power until we drop .

When jobs are shipped away and companies cutting back more and more do we go into the tent building trade to provide housing for the middle class as well as the poor or are the poor still to be left out ?


If we are running low on water and land to grow crops is either withered and void of minerals or turned to sand then how can crops be grown . Alot of the land has now been turned into housing developments or parking lots for box stores .

Are these so called green collar jobs going to be done in countries over seas .

I just don't get it or have any sort of viable answer . If not much at all is made here now what will be made here , pine boxes ?

[Zensea]

1. Rebuild the infrastructure

A lot of jobs in that which would then create more jobs.

[Deja Q]

2. Well, didn't Hillary say once the genie bottle is opened it can't be closed?

Technically correct.

Therefore one has to work with the genie.

Or do an end-run around the genie. Forgive me if I don't. You can if you like, but the result wouldn't be pretty. After all, Commander Shelby tried to do an end-run around Commander Riker and got into big trouble...

[TexasBushwhacker]

3. There is plenty of work to be done

and there is plenty of money to pay for it. The thing is, we will have to take money that's being spent for the war in Iraq, tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy, and tax breaks to corporations like Exxon-Mobil that are making record profits. Hurricane Katrina hit over 2 years ago, and most of New Orleans is still not rebuilt. Why? Bridges and other parts of our infrastructure are crumbling. Why? Drop out rates in our schools continue to go up and real learning continues to go down. Why? We are the richest country per capita in the world and have been for a long time, but it's distributed so unevenly that we don't even guarantee health care or a living wage for our citizens. It's all a matter of priorities. Ever since Reagan and his voodoo economics, everyone in America has suffered except for the very wealthy. I think we will need a major works program like FDR created to get us out of the Great Depression. We have the money and the manpower. We just need to start using it the right way.

[bbgrunt]

4. and now that income is concentrated in fewer and

fewer people, if we try to tax them they will move overseas just like corporations. Welcome to the "global economy".

[TexasBushwhacker]

6. I'm not so sure

For one thing, our overall level of taxation is actually lower than most developed countries. The other thing is that even if they have to pay more in taxes, their standard of living is still very good here. The handful of tax havens out there are tax havens for a reason. They're trying to attract wealthy residents because they're god foresaken hellholes. I mean, I'm sure you can live like royalty ten times over in Haiti, but who wants to live in Haiti?

[jwirr]

5. When the oil crisis forces us to a version of isolationism because

we cannot get all the goodies from overseas we will once again begin to produce the articles we truly need in our own country/communities. Some areas will fail at this because they do not have the resources and others will fail because they refuse to work together. But many will succeed at this because they have already started doing some forms of this.

My daughter and I were talking to her daughter and children about raising chickens on their acreage. They were all thrilled about the idea. What really thrilled me was my granddaughter who is totally unpolitical. She looked at her mother and said, "Are you doing these things so that if something happens to our country we will have a place to come?" Even she understands. We are also learning some basic trades to be able to create items others will need. These are not just my ideas - I am following the ideas of Kuntsler, Paul Hawkins, Amory Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins. I am also old enough to remember when the Unites States was full of jobs that provided self-sufficiency.