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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:43 PM
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McCain's exit polls...interesting.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#FLREP

McCain won the majority of Republican primary voters who believe that abortion should be always legal; voters who attend church a few times a year or never; non-evangelical Christians; voters dissatisfied or angry with Bush and with a negative opinion of the Administration; voters with college and postgraduate degrees; voters who want a path to citizenship or temporary worker status for illegal immigrants; voters making $100,000 and less; voters that believe Iraq and the economy are more important than terrorism and illegal immigration; voters who believe the economy is in not so good or poor condition; voters who identify themselves as liberal or moderate; and voters who are non-white non-evangelical.

Now, does that mean that they expect him to be a moderate? Or does it just threaten to pull independent voters from Obama/Clinton?
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:46 PM
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1. He will be tough to beat
I really am hoping he will not be the nominee.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:23 AM
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8. He's an old, short, chubby pink guy . . . who is a Pentagon candidate . . .
are you saying you think he has chemistry with the public -- ?
Charisma?

Or are you saying they want to "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" . .. ???

Or what other attraction that I may be missing?


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:25 AM
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26. I just posted a rant about this phenomenon. Yes, McCain is attractive
to lots of voters who simply think that as long as he's not Bush, he's "independent" enough for them and so they get a permission slip to vote Republican. Calling him the "Pentagon candidate" will either confuse or piss off these voters. They are comfortable voting Republican. Democrats, to them, are some sort of weird, alien species and nothing we can say will change that.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:09 PM
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35. ........his easter egg looking wife.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:21 AM
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14. I think you should start getting used to the idea that he'll be the next President.
McCain would kick Hillary's ass in the General Election
and he'd almost certainly kick Obama's ass too.

Edwards, on the other hand, defeats him but we're not
going to to be smart enough to nominate Edwards.

So get used to saying "President McCain".

Tesha
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:11 AM
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18. I think you should push the bong away
McCain will not be the next president.

Don
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:55 AM
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22. Let's talk again after November, when the folks still here are wondering...
Let's talk again after November, when the folks still
here are wondering 'Wha' happened??? Why didn't somebody
warn us that Hillary would lose all fifty states?"

But maybe you'll be right and I'll be wrong. Maybe I'll
even be glad about that. Maybe she'll find a way to
govern, even though 51% of the country will hate her
right from the Oath of Office. We'll see...

Tesha
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:55 AM
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23. Hillary would have him for lunch...
he's no match for the Clintons.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:58 AM
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24. McCain doesn't have looks, youth, gravitas, charisma, or charm.
And -- fortunately or unfortunately -- that is what the vast majority of voters seek.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:11 AM
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25. I agree with you completely.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 10:20 AM by Marr
I can't believe this party has been wrangled into accepting two options who are essentially the same unelectable, right-leaning, business-as-usual crap. It's as if GE chose the Democratic nominees and said, 'ok, we can't have the Democrats win-- but just in case they do, better make them DLC-types. Just in case'.

All these people who think beating McCain with Hillary Clinton or Obama will be cake need to wake the hell up and remember where they are.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:32 AM
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29. Absolutely.
> It's as if GE chose the Democratic nominees and said, 'ok,
> we can't have the Democrats win-- but just in case they do,
> better make them DLC-types. Just in case'.

Absolutely correct. And terrifically disheartening.

Tesha
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:33 AM
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30. My dad who's generally voted Democratic since 1976 would lean towards McCain
over Hillary. Not sure where he'd end up if Obama was the candidate.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 AM
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34. DING DING DING!!
that's the point here... he'll get those blue collar guys votes because he's not so rightwingy in appearance to them. also, there's the element of men (10%??) who won't vote for a female, and the antiClinton crowd from ALL parties (20%??) and that spells DOOM for us...

I am in shock of this matchup that is forming...


JUST UTTER SHOCK.


They better hammer the hell out of the warmongers and not back down, at ALL.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:36 AM
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19. He'll be defeated handily...
...despite the best efforts of Rove and the voting machines.

He represents more war and more corporate fascism. Clinton and Obama at least seem to be something different, and either will win easily over McCain.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:55 AM
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21. Rove didn't have any problems with him....n/t
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:28 AM
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27. Far tougher than Mittens that's for sure...and he's more appealing to the "moderates"..
...and independents...

He'll use his military background the way Kerry SHOULD have used his...and he'll be VERY tough to beat...
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:34 AM
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33. I don't think so, I think he carries a lot of baggage..
Unless Bloomburg were to throw his hat in the ring. In that case i think you could be right. The Democrat would lose a lot of Independents and Conservatives that call themselves Democrats...McCain might then stand a slight chance in Hell.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:48 PM
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2. That means they lie to pollsters.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:57 PM
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3. Maybe I'm totally wrong (I often am) but I don't give McCain a chance
Americans are thoroughly sick of the Iraq war, as they proved in the 2006 elections. "100 years of war" McCain wears the Iraq war like a flag. It's his major issue. He will be stabbed through the heart with that war by either of the two Democratic candidates who run against him.

McCain has very little of substance to say about the economy and admits himself that he doesn't understand it. The economy just isn't his thing.

On the other hand, either of the two major Dem candidates will be bringing out massive numbers of new voters, women in the case of Clinton and African Americans in the case of Obama.

And Americans are turned off by the Republican Party this year.
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:03 AM
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5. I agree with you....
100%.

McCain has completely hitched his wagon to Iraq, and I think that's a huge mistake for the GE....even hard core Republicans
are sick of the war.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:36 AM
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11. He'd probably try to bleat loudly his cry of "the surge is working," "the surge is working."
That might be able to fool a number of people, if the media doesn't actually show that the reduced violence hasn't led to the accomplishment of jack shit in terms of political reconciliation.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:56 AM
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4. he's basically slightly to the left of the Clintons
except on his 10,000-year war in Iraq.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:24 AM
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9. McCain is totally right-wing . . . right?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:22 AM
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15. He *IS*, but he doesn't come across that way.
And that's why he'll defeat Clinton and likely Obama.

Tesha
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:06 AM
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6. It means that Hillary doesn't stand a chance in the general election.
If Dems continue to engage in the circular firing squad and drink the Hillary kool-aide, we will LOSE the general election. BANK ON IT.

J
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:52 AM
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12. actually
If dems continue to think they've already won the GE no matter what happens, that's exactly how McCain will win.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:29 AM
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28. That too...an HRC nomination and more McAulliffe complacency and the GOP stays in office...
...That's why it is vital that Obama gets the nod...
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:05 AM
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7. The GOP candidate will be picked by Cheney at the convention and it will be a woman. n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:25 AM
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10. Who? Mrs. Liebermann . . . ??? Whaaaat --- ????
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:55 AM
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13. Voters who don't think they or their children will ever get drafted.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 03:55 AM by Swamp Rat
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:32 AM
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16. The problems we face in Pakistan
The problems we face in Pakistan and Afghanistan are becoming more serious every day. It is entirely the result of the current Administrations policies and their foolish excursion into Iraq. I wonder if we can even do much to correct the challenges in Pakistan. The Bush Administration should have to answer for this. McCain's more of the same strategy will just make things worse.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:40 AM
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17. It means that Democrats should sart thinking about how they will feel about their party
if we nominate Clinton or Obama and lose to McCain.


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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:44 AM
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20. Cheney Will Offer His Services to *ahem* search for the next VP -
and SUPRISE..Cheney will once again select himself.

The Position of VP has no term limits.
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pegleg Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:39 AM
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31. He will be another Bush. The opinions that he once held have
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 10:40 AM by pegleg
completely fallen by tha wayside. The McCain who once appeared to be a potential running mate with Kerry no longer exists or maybe never did.
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pegleg Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 10:39 AM
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32. deleted
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 10:40 AM by pegleg
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:18 PM
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36. He's neither moderate nor a "maverick". He's voted on Bush's pet Senate leg
for the past eight years while paying lip service on the MSM.

He's not goung to pull votes away from the Dems with his platform of "the jobs aren't coming back and who cares anyway because even your grandkids will be fighting in Iraq."

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