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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:43 PM
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Are conservatives even capable of being funny?
Edited on Sat Feb-24-07 12:45 PM by Mortos
I just reviewed Fox New's terrible new "comedy" show, The Half Hour News Hour and I found it to be mean spirited, racist, sexist and painfully unfunny.

Read review and see clips here: www.conservativfighter.wordpress.com

My question is, are there any funny conservatives (not the unintentionally we laugh at their stupidity and hypocrisy funny but the make you laugh at their jokes funny) in the comedy world.

Everyone says Dennis Miller but I never thought he was funny even when he was still sniffing coke and banging groupies. Larry Miller was kind of funny and is apparently now a conservative but his humor, as I remember it, wasn't partisan and he was mildly popular over 20 years ago (hardly a household comedy name). Larry the Cable guy is sometimes funny in an ignorant redneck laugh at my inbred retard accent and proud ignorance way but not when he is being openly homophobic.

Is there anyone else remotely funny who is also openly conservative?

I pose a few reasons why conservatives aren't funny in my review. Check it out.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:46 PM
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1. They think that is funny...
...sad, but true.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:47 PM
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2. I think Fox News is funny
but for all the wrong reasons.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:48 PM
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3. P. J. O'Rourke thinks he's funny...
Just heard him as a guest on "Wait, wait, don't tell me" show on NPR. He was only mildly amusing, IMHO.
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:58 PM
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11. Isn't he more of a libertarian than a conservative?
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:06 PM
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14. A conservative libertarian...
Actually, today he said he was a "right wing conservative" or something to that effect.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:44 PM
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18. That is a perfect review of O'Rourke
just because he once breathed the same air as the great Michael O'Donoghue, Tony Hendra, Chris Miller, and others he must feel that he benefited from some type of humor osmosis or something.
Sorry,it doesn't work like that.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 03:47 PM
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19. Here's a bit that's very telling of O'Rourke's interest
On "Wait, wait, don't tell me", they have lightening round of the "fill in the blank" for the latest news. O'Rourke was asked about the sad, sorry state of the condition of "which institution" that served our veterans. He could not remember the name of "Walter Reed Hospital!" Yet, he correctly answered the next question about which celebrity had her head shaved.

That speaks volumes to me about what an idiot he is. If you claim to be a political analyst/satirist, how can you have gone through the week without knowing the name of Walter Reed Hospital.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:48 PM
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4. Yes. Christopher Buckley is hilarious.
He's a writer, not a performer, though.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:50 PM
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7. agreed, i read "Thank you for smoking" and laughed out loud, that book is
hilarious.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:56 PM
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10. He has a collection of stories and essays called 'Wry Martinis'
I recommend it - there's a great three or four articles where he and Tom Clancy get into a feud over one of Buckley's BAD reviews of a Clancy book :rofl:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:58 PM
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12. thank you, i will be looking for that.
:toast:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:49 PM
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5. Conservatives are funny when you push them down the stairs. n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:49 PM
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6. Cruelty is hilarious to right wingers
Otherwise, any hilarity they produce is unintentional.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:50 PM
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8. Liberal Humor speaks Truth to Power. Conservative "Humor" ridicules the Powerless. n/t
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jayschool Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 12:53 PM
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9. Political humor
Political humor -- specifically its ability to be relevant and funny -- relies on two components:
1) Making fun of those in power
2) Having believable premises

First, when a "satirical" show leans only on bashing the party that hasn't been in power for at least the last six years, it misses a gold mine of potential yuks. "Saturday Night Live" was funny in the 1990s mostly because of Darrell Hammond's spot-on impersonation of President Clinton. That didn't mean SNL was inherently conservative, it simply meant it was a nominal Democrat's time in the line of fire. "The Daily Show" was an equal-opportunity offender until the absolute looniness and power-mongering by the Bush Administration made Republicans as easy target.

Picking one's perspective first, then trying to build jokes around that, is a sure way to fail.

Second, you can't build a joke on a premise that isn't true. One of their favorite memes over the past 15 years has been the alleged whacked-out liberalness of the Clintons, who are, by almost all political measures, moderates. Yet they continue to construct "humor" based on some alleged far-out behavior that was never true: neither Bill nor Hillary qualified as counter-culture figures in the 1960s; in fact, both were pretty straight-laced, albeit super idealistic political geeks in their college days. Hell, Bill didn't even inhale.

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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:04 PM
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13. only unintentionally n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:07 PM
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15. I laughed my ass off when Nixon resigned.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:21 PM
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16. Humor, like journalism...
should "comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable". This is why most right-wing humor fails - it almost always ridicules the victims. Conservatives don't get this because no matter how much power and money they have, they still see themselves as victims.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 01:23 PM
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17. Yes, I laugh at them all the time.

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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 04:17 PM
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20. Off the top of my head...
P.J. O'Rourke
Dennis Miller used to be funny
Christopher Buckley
Mark Steyn- my conservative Dad reads him all the time and he's pretty witty
Tom Wolfe
Christopher Hitchens (does he count as a conservative?)
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 05:35 PM
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22. I have seen Hitchens on a few shows, namely Politically Incorrect
he didn't strike me as funny he struck me as a pompous drunk. I have read a few pieces by him but they were more editorial than comic. I got a P.J. O'Rourke book today at our "Friends of the Library sale for .50 cents. I will let you know. I never thought Dennis Miller was funny, even on Saturday Night Live. I don't know the other two.
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Bronyraurus Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 06:15 PM
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26. Hitchens' writing can be very funny
In some book he wrote that I read a long time ago, he addresses an argument made by somebody that struck him as fatuous. His line:

"What wheezing mule did this guy ride in on?" or something like that.

O'Rourke is very funny, especially Parliament of Whores, which takes aim at both parties, and Give War a Chance, a travelogue of war-torn locales in the late 80s.

I've thought Dennis Miller was funny ever since he warned about Newt Gingrich "fixing the rat cage over the face of America" in 1994.

Christopher Buckley wrote Thank You for Smoking and numerous essays (and is William F. Buckley's son!). He actually wrote a blind wine-tasting article in Forbes FYI with P.J. O'Rourke, in which he described a particular wine as having "thick, almost Bulgarian legs."

Mark Steyn writes obituaries for the Atlantic and writes neocon-oriented rants elsewhere, but knows how to turn a clever phrase.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 04:40 PM
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21. Florence King, William F Buckley and Winston Churchill are the only 3...
I find funny.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 05:42 PM
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23. Don't forget 'Comedian Rush Limbaugh'
Doing the MJFox Jiggle
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 05:43 PM
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24. Conservatives, yes. Fundamentalists, no.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 05:46 PM
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25. Yes, but only when they are being series!!!!!
They're never funny when they're attempting comedy.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 07:27 PM
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27. Their humor is of the juvenile, ridiculing, mocking, hurtful variety n/t
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 07:34 PM
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28. Yup
After Ted Kennedy's '88 convention speech, the one with the "Where was George?" theme, the Bush campaign replied to the question with a single-sentence press release. It read, "At home, in bed with his wife, sober."

Funny.
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