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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:35 PM
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Is there something called Windfall Profits Tax and would Profits
of (and I am speaking Net Profit here, after ALL expenses have been paid) of Over One Hundred Million Dollars a Day by Exxon. Is this not a "Windfall" and should it not be taxed heavily?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:37 PM
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1. Yes. It should.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:38 PM by aquart
Next question.

But only an idiot would ask for a percentage of the net profits. There is NEVER a percentage of net profits for participants. You ask for a percentage of the gross or you get NOTHING.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:45 PM
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2. Perhaps, but IS there such a law?
When I was little, I'd heard of something called "windfall profit laws", but they seem to have been rescinded in the last 40 years because I never hear about them anymore. Did they fall by the wayside, victims of rampant capitalism, or did they never exist in the first place?
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:49 PM
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3. As I remember, they were just about to institute one when, suddenly, there was no oil.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:05 PM
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4. Tax was repealed
under the argument that it was inhibiting more speculative oil ventures.

Should never cap based on a fixed rate. Need to concider the amount of Capital Employed. $1Million profit on $1.00 employed is excessive. $100million on $1Trillion employed is a loss
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:13 PM
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5. One hundred million dollars a day Net Profit is not a loss
Unless of course you reside in the Bush* Administration..
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:18 PM
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6. Don't go into Buisiness then
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 02:25 PM by One_Life_To_Give
If any buisiness can't get a better return on it's investment (Capital employed) than putting the money in a Money Market or CD. Then they are loosing money and should't be in buisiness and won't be able to stay in buisiness for long.

edit to add

$100 Million/ day is $36.5 Billion per year.

$1Trillion put in CD's at 5% yields $50 Billion per year.

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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:42 PM
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7. They are bragging about the largest Corporate Profits in History
of 40.8 Billion dollars, and you suggest they don't know how to run their business. Pretty arrogant wouldn't you say..:shrug: Maybe you are just talking out your ass.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:52 PM
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9. I said it depends on Capital Employed
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 03:02 PM by One_Life_To_Give
What we should be talking about is the rate of profits they are making. Dollars are meaningless without knowing how much total capital is employed. Are they making a 15% ROI (good but not exceptional) or a 40% ROI. It would also be good to know what it was during the 90's as well. So perhaps a 10-20yr rolling average. Tell me how that compares to Microsoft, Cisco, GE, etc.

On edit Reuters is listing Exxon with a net profit of 10.37% with a 5yr average of 8.88%, both conciderably under the S&P 500 averages.

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 02:50 PM
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8. A profit of around 10% wouldn't be called a windfall by anyone
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