The DLC -- super-tryants or toothless mutts? Make the case.

[Dogmudgeon]

I've been hearing that the DLC is an organization dedicated to world domination and mass destruction every day since I joined DU back in 2002. In that time, I have searched high and low for any credible evidence (that is, non-opinion-pieces) that it is more than a social club for Al From's pals to get together and drink and pretend they are still able to get their phone calls returned.

The only real political purpose the DLC seems to have is to provide a place for young Democrats from conservative districts to pick up something that looks nice on the CV.

Can ANYONE tell me why so many people think that the DLC has the power to crush entire populations, subvert elections, wage war, oppress the weak, steal their women and slap their mamas?

--p!

[ulysses]

1. neither.

Try "Democrats devoted to certain Republican economic ideas".

[ingac70]

2. DLC is a nicer way of saying...

Rockefeller Republican.

The DLC is an influential corporate and right-wing implant in the Democratic party.

[bellasgrams]

3. several years you would hear more about the DLC. The only

time I even hear DLC is on DU. A couple of things happened that turned me off but it's been so long I don't even remember what it was.

[parasim]

4. Why do some many people think the PNAC has that power?

Same answer.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. They are a private think tank, which isn't anything like a social club., for starters.

so you need to keep that in mind. Just like the Hoover Center, the Heritage Foundation, The American Foriegn Policy Council, The Cato institute.

The DLC attempts to pull the Dems to the right on economic issues and on military/foriegn policy issues.

You probably don't have to worry about them if you don't need a good paying job, you don't live in a foriegn country that has stratigic resources or a stratigic location, or you aren't a progressive democrat running for office.

Most people who work at McDonald's or Walmart aren't even aware they exist.

The have a website. Have you googled Them?

[fascisthunter]

7. Much Better Description

[parasim]

11. Good answer.

But you do realize that this was one of those poorly attempted meme-threads trying to set up a genuinely craven organization as being either a mythical Lex Luthor-lead cabal or simply a youtube nutball ranting inanities to deflect any sincere, critical investigation into their true ambitions, don't you? Obviously, the OP is hoping the majority read only the opening salvo and go on thinking the DLC is one of the two, without delving further. Hence, no followup.

I always get a kick out of that tactic. Yeah, like most people are really that dense.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. I know the OP was disingenuous. That's why I tried to cut to the chase.

My guess is the OP approves of the agenda of the DLC. Since the OP also knows that most people don't approve of the DLC's agenda once they understand what that agenda is, the strategy is to create a false dichotomy in the hope that people will assume the DLC is just a social club without an agenda that might effect them. Anyone who then suggests the DLC has an agenda (in the OPs mind) is then made to appear to be paranoid.

You are right that it's extremely transparent. It's amazing to me how often people attempt this style of persuasion

Thanks for the complement.

[fascisthunter]

6. Neither... They are Two-Faced (nt)

[Individualist]

8. Neocon enablers

[PassingFair]

9. Here's the Wiki entry on Will Marshall, founder of the DLC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Marshall

He is also a PNAC signatory, if THAT means anything to you.

[AntiFascist]

10. ...and to learn more about Will Marshall's foreign policy...

go to the ppionline.org website (website for the DLC thinktank) and look up the "Progressive Internationalism Manifesto"

http://www.ppionline.org/documents/Progressive_Internationalism_1003.pdf

"Progressive Internationalism occupies the vital center between the neo-imperial right and the non-interventionist left."

Why would they even attempt to triangulate with the neo-imperial right?!!!

[Dogmudgeon]

13. Attention, good people

I thank you sincerely for your replies.

I had neglected to return to this thread to thank you, and was quite properly upbraided for that negligence. I apologize for any consternation this may have caused. I initially thought that my insight was not welcomed and held back, but I admit my mistake.

I would also like to clarify an item of some dispute. Some think I am a propagandist for the DLC, advancing their agenda by means of psychological trickery. I assure you, I am doing nothing of the sort. I believe that the DLC is a weak relic of the 1980s and 1990s, and wonder why so many of my co-partisans fear it so greatly. They give it power it does not merit.

And I couched my point of view in as much humor as I thought would be enjoyed. It appears that not everyone agreed. But, in fairness, humor is a matter of taste.

The PNAC, too, was a formidable organization as recently as 2004; nobody believes them now, and they will soon pass like a bad meal into history as part of the Bush adventure. Our job is simply to flush.

Thank you for bearing with me, and Vote Democratic.

--p!

[Quantess]

14. self delete

[robbedvoter]

16. Seemed to me their last hurrah was in the 2004 election. Like Nader - who became

obsolete in 2000 and invisible by 2004 (do people even know he ran then too?) - and now has way too many threads dedicated to him.
PNAC OTOH - which calls itself a think tank when convenient, like Rush calls himself an "entertainer" when held responsible - is still out there - with access to real power.
Should McCain by some miracle(fraud) be installed, they'd rule the world again.

[Quantess]

15. Have you been suitably upbraided by a "tryant" yet?

I guess that's an ant-troll-DNA hybrid creation.
:rofl: