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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:08 AM
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What was Bush Sr.'s long-term plan when selecting Dan Quayle in 1988?
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:09 AM by wuushew
Clearly Bush 41 wanted to remain in office through 1996. Presumably his wife still wanted Jeb to become President one day, so was the selection of dumb as rocks Quayle an acknowledgment of a necessary partisan spacing to deflect obvious charges of dynasty?

I mean really, in the twentieth century you would be hard pressed to find a Vice-President as dumb as Quayle is. Where as Johnson helped Kennedy in 1960, what did Quayle bring to Bush?


Assuming Bush retired in 1996 would James Baker or Cheney have run?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:11 AM
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1. Guard against assassination
I mean, even the craziest motherfucker who ever donned an aluminum foil hat would fire a synapse or two contemplating the possibility of Dan Quayle sitting in the Oval Office without supervision.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:12 AM
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3. I concur
only a stupid mother fucker would kill george sr without taking out quale first. can you imagine what that would have been like with quale as president?

"oh what a shiny red button, I wonder what it does"

BOOM
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:15 AM
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6. How many times did they allow Quayle in the Oval Room? Pentagon? Situation Room?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:35 AM
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14. ..... or out of Romper Room or the Padded Room
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:11 AM
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2. I've heard some people frame it as Poppy's wish to have someone who
brought n the with-it 21-45 crowd, whatever that means, as well as someone who would mobilize the nutcase Right without actually demanding a serious seat at the negotiations table.

Lil' Dan was just the guy.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:12 AM
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4. Quayle was a form of job security.
Nobuddy in dey right mind gonner impeach Poppy an gib Danny da keys.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:13 AM
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5. Impeachment Insurance
It would have worked for Nixon, except Agnew's corruption forced him to resign.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:18 AM
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7. Innoculate GW Bush against the National Guard thing
My opinion.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:20 AM
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8. No, Bush DIDN'T want re-election in 92. He expected to be impeached after BCCI report
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 11:22 AM by blm
was released in Dec 1992.

His longtime friend Jackson Stephens had bankrolled the political career of Bill Clinton in Arkansas and underwrote most of his primary campaign.

Jackson Stephens BROUGHT BCCI into this country. He staked WalMart's rise. He was a longtime partner of Poppy Bush's on BCCI dealings.

GHWBush ran the worst campaign ever. BCCI report was handed to BOTH outgoing president Bush and incoming Bill Clinton.

What happened to ALL the outstanding matters of the BCCI report that named figures such as Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich, AQ Khan, James Bath, Adnan Kasshoggi, and many Dubai and Saudi royals?

Why was a Bush2 even possible when the entire gang should have been in jail by the end of 1994, and instead we had Dems in congress turning the keys over to the GOP and Bush2 free to plan throughout the 90s for their return to the WH in 2000?
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:31 PM
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24. Because a Republican controlled Congress buried the results?
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 05:31 PM by wintersoulja
no, I guess not.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:53 PM
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25. GOPs didn't take control til Jan1995.
The report was handed to Clinton in Jan 1993. There were MANY serious matters outstanding that REQUIRED further investigation and access to documents from the Dem president - documents long stonewalled by Reagan and Bush administrations's. Clinton would NOT facilitate access as many Dems expected.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:27 AM
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9. to lower the standard for P or VP so that his idiot son would be acceptable
to America.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:28 AM
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10. quayle was the only person in amurka george the first could find
who was even stupider and more inbred than himself.
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:30 AM
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11. Because he "looked like Robert Redford".
I remember seeing an interview where Bush was asked why he chose Quayle.

He said because he "looked like Robert Redford" and so would appeal to the women voters. :puke:

Now that is classic "Bushthink". (oxymoron)
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:38 AM
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16. Who knew Robert Redford looked like a brainless dip shit?
:shrug:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:22 PM
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31. Remember what Redford said upon hearing the campaign repeating this?
"Cut it out!"

:rofl:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:32 AM
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12. Mr. Potatoe Head was already under contract with Hasbro
Dan Quayle - there's a real genius...............
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:34 AM
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13. He prepared everyone for someone even dumber
his murderous criminal son.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:37 AM
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15. Why are we going past to the back?
Let's go forward to tomorrow, no matter how many unforeseen events that may or may not occur, I have faith that we are on an irreversible trend towards more freedom and democracy, but that could change.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:39 AM
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17. Preparing the world for his own idiot son? Quayle was the test
subject.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:45 AM
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18. deep pockets
Danny Boy was part of a very wealthy extended family.....
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:57 AM
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19. Eli Lilly.
Eli Lilly and the Bush Family
The Bush family has been substantially invested in Eli Lilly for years.

After leaving the Central Intelligence Agency in 1977, George H.W. Bush was made a director of Eli Lilly. Future Vice President to Bush Dan Quayle's father, James C. Quayle, owned controlling interest in the Lilly company and the The Indianapolis Star at that time.

Bush actively lobbied both within and without the Reagan Administration as Vice President in 1981 to permit drug companies to sell obsolete or especially domestically-banned substances to Third World countries. While Vice President, Bush continued to act on behalf of pharmaceutical companies by personally going to the Internal Revenue Service for special tax breaks for certain drug companies, including Lilly, who were manufacturing in Puerto Rico.

In 1982, Bush intervened with the U.S. Department of Treasury in connection with proposed rules that would have forced pharmaceutical companies to pay significantly more taxes. Bush was personally ordered to stop lobbying the IRS on behalf of the drug companies by the U.S. Supreme Court.<24>

Bush stopped lobbying, but pharmaceutical interests still received a 23% additional tax break for their companies in Puerto Rico, who made these obsolete or banned American drugs for sale to Third World countries. Lilly's Puerto Rico-based affiliate now employs approximately 1,100 workers at three plants in Carolina and Mayagüez and 220 additional employees in its sales and marketing offices in San Juan.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Lilly_Controversy
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:36 PM
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33. Yer the only one who got it. Now just imagine how uninformed those
not from the "enlightened" DU environment are? :eyes:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:58 AM
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20. people make mistakes. like gore in 2000.
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wintersoulja Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 01:51 PM
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29. the only mistakes made in 2000 were by a docile public
always finger pointing about 2000.
Those fingers pointing back are right.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:57 PM
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21. It was as dumb as: being "handsome" he will appeal to women yet
not being bright he won't be a competition for the rest of the family in the future
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:29 PM
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22. Fundy stooge ..

He was a young fundie stooge that they could send out their to whip up the dopes. All he had to do was read the script. Unfortunately, Dan didn't know his own limitations and tried to be extemporaneous too often. There were people around him furthering their careers by whispering in his ear about how he could be President one day. The man actually believed him.

It's the lasting tribute to Fox News that Brit Hume thought so highly of Dan Quayle. The story goes that he is brilliant, but inarticulate. I lived in Indianapolis. And I have heard the personal accounts of Dan Quayle's mental stature from Republicans there. He did not impress them. He was just a well funded puppet of Lilly, the GOP and his daddy.







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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:09 PM
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23. The right wanted a dumb ass that they could tell what to do.
They had to wait and put the perfect dumb ass, George in in 2000. Clinton money stopped them.

Bob
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:03 PM
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26. One-termer, apparently LOL
Or to make himself look smarter!
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:05 PM
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27. Quayle's contribution to GHWB's administration?
Dan Quayle was GHWB's anti-assassination insurance policy.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:08 PM
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28. I know this will sound totally nuts
but believe it or not, Quayle was on many short lists that year. He had beaten a liberal icon in Indiana (Byrch Byah) and held on to his seat in a terrible year for the GOP. As absurd as it sounds now he really was viewed as a great choice at first.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:18 PM
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30. Affirmative action for stupid people
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:18 PM by CreekDog
:shrug:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:31 PM
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32. I think Quayle was originally going to play the role of GW Bush.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 02:38 PM by Marr
That is to say, he was going to be the resident idiot, with an administration run by old Reagan-era Republicans. After Bush Sr.'s term was up, they were going to repeat the Reagan dynamic (puppet, mascot president) with Dan Quayle, but it didn't work out and they ended up using W instead.

Unfortunately, W wasn't willing to act simply as a proxy for his father, and his enormous ego/Oedipus complex made him willing to substitute the neocon agenda for that of his father at the first opportunity.
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