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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 06:52 AM Original message |
How do you explain America's amazing tolerance for bullshit? |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. i dont know. It is stunning. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. People have turned their backs on politics... |
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GaYellowDawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. DING DING DING!!! |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. yes, and until it does affects us personally is when hopefully we will confront |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Americans will. Look at the reaction when Bush tried to privatize Social Security. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. yup, and I wouldn't put it pass these SOB's to take Social Security away too. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
107. People will believe what they want to believe. nt |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. Americans are pacified with toys |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. And Sports..my god..the sports... |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
67. I play videogames and sometimes eat fast food. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
95. OH NOES!!11 |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. Never underestimate the power of denial |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. from American Beauty |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Screenwriter Alan Ball |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. creator of that great series Six Feet Under |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think it is in our genes |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Orwell quote: |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
36. It's all entertainment |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
76. Gotta agree with this statement. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
47. i think it IS in our genes. i don't think we are unique in that. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Sure. Same as it ever was, only we haven't existed very long at all w/nukes, bio/chem weapons |
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hellbound-liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. As Stephanie Miller likes to say, "Look at the shiny keys! Look at the shiny keys!" |
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momster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
9. We Also Work Bloody Hard |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's a vicious cycle to be sure. However, some play the "too busy" card to justify apathy |
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momster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Exhaustion and Depression |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. "bottomless pit of need"/"bottomless pit of greed" |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. that's right |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
10. It is all about money. Who has the most and how powerful |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. we are "owned" by the most powerful greedy SOB's in this country. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
17. As a Group...we are partially DELUSIONAL..... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
18. America Is A Society of Addicts |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. Far removed from reality indeed...brilliant post! |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
19. Ketchup |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. Kick it Up ! This Is Important! One More for Greatest Page!! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. In agreement with "Echo in Light" on this one |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
22. Here's a theory that seeks to answer that very question: |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Evil was considered something to be endured rather than eliminated. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. There's also the infamous Iron Mountain Report |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
68. The evil that Lobaczewski talks about in Ponerology |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. The psychopaths are good at what they do and people are lazy. |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Actually psychopaths are excellent at making people think their good at what their doing. |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #87 |
97. I'm sure you offended nobody in this group... |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
96. It's such an interesting concept to think about |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Thanks for the links. Are you familiar with the Milgram experiment? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
25. Because America wouldn't exist without that bullshit? nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
28. watch this clip of George Carlin |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
31. You just must view the movie "Stupidity" for a complete explanation. |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Or the movie "Idiocracy" |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
59. I've watched that movie 3 times and I'm amazed at the statement |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. FOX studio pulled financing once it became clear of the film's social critique |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Are you kidding me? I didn't know that. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. If one criticizes one of the Name Brand parties, it's fine. Criticism of the overall system isn't |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
92. Almost everyone I know who's seen that film tells me... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #92 |
103. It's solid in its critique, although I highly recommend Network |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Network is really the gold standard for direct societal criticism |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. I am truly amazed. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
33. fatigue. daily doses of lies. daily scandals. daily spin |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
37. why worry about bullshit when you have shiny toys? |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
71. My husband has an iPhone |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
38. One Word |
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ordinaryaveragegirl (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
39. The state of this country is giving me a Howard Beale moment... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Where is your quote from? nt |
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ordinaryaveragegirl (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Edited post to add that... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. YES |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #49 |
105. Yeah, I saw it again a couple of weeks ago, and... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
42. I don't...I end up screaming at the TV that there actually ARE issues at hand |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
44. Television, the opium of the masses. n/t |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
81. Yes! Far too many people allow the teevee to think for them. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
45. since it's all too much to cope with, or even understand, people escape . . . |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
75. I play video games |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
46. Hopefully in November they'll say enough is enough...n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. ..or what passes for it within the current social conditioning n/t |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Sadly, I will settle for just a little more open-ness in my government.. |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
48. Whenever I talk to friends about this subject |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Talk of sociology/mass psychology tends to bring out big heap doses of HATRED & LOATHING |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
54. Information overload... |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
55. It truly is all about the $$$. Keep us simple and stupid, and the economy booms! |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #55 |
101. And then what did they do with us? |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Yup. |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
57. The National Defense Act of 1947. That was the beginning of the end. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Agreed. The National Security State ruse is the primary cover for much evil |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
61. They Are Fed Bullshit Constantly by the Mighty Slime Machine |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
62. Stolen elections and complicit corporate media |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
63. americans love their faiery tales. they are fed them starting in elementary school. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #63 |
108. Yup, the American creation myth... |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
64. I've always wondered if it has something to do |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
65. They don't feel like it is possible to do anything about it |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
66. Propaganda. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
69. Blind, profound ignorance, |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
72. Just Give Us Bread and Circus |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. and remember what happened to Rome, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
73. Our corporate news media no longer cover a lot of this stuff |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
74. Poor education system, good propaganda system left over from the |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
77. Okay, now that I'm done replying to the "I hate young people and their devil's technology" posts |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
79. My own thought's as if anyone should give a damn |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. A few reasons... |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
84. It isn't just America, its human nature |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
85. Herein lies the answer. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
86. K&R n/t |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
88. ................. |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
89. Everything is relative |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
91. Yeah well I hate to say it but I will |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
93. Cognitive dissonance |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
94. we have always been fond of bullshit. |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
98. Is there anyone left |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. I think looking for heroes among the political class... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
99. Too late, our fed govt. crossed a line it shouldn't have crossed. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
100. Easier to ignore bullshit than to face the hard truth. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
106. My only guess: Lack of personal connection |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
110. Poor leadership and an obtuse populace. |
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