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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:06 AM
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I hope everyone understands that I could be tortured into fingering any one of you as a terrorist
I wouldn't even need to know you. Use the right methods on me and I will swear up and down that anyone is a terrorist. ANYONE!

And then after I was tortured into saying you are a terrorist, you would then be tortured, because you now are a suspected terrorist, until you admit you really are a terrorist and identify some other innocent people as terrorists too.

Thats what Bush and his GOP thugs with the help of their complicit media want to be able to legally do to us.

Don
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:07 AM
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1. Great. So, when the knock comes at the door in the middle of the night, I'll know who to blame.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:07 AM
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2. Yep, that's how a witch hunt works.
It's 1692 all over again.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:07 AM
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3. Hell
I'd turn ya'll in under mere THREAT of torture.

yeah that's right. All of ya'll.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:13 AM
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4. Yep, I pretty much think most all of us would. Now let me ask you
this. What do you think about a guy who was shot down and captured by the enemy (who was only our enemy because we said they were baaaaadddddd people) and spilled his guts for medical care? Even did some time in a hospital that was reserved for high ranking Viet Cong officials?

How would you feel about that guy running for president? Even though there were others over there that didn't cave? Even though the guy has fought tooth and nail to keep POW debriefings secret to this day? From other missing POWs families.

What do you think a guy like that is capable of doing?

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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:39 AM
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10. I have a lot of beef with McCain.
But I won't use any of his service as a reason to not vote for him. His policy positions give me plenty as it is. That man endured hell and I believe he served his country honorably. He went through things for his country that I wouldn't even consider. I won't use his service to denigrate him.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:16 AM
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5. How do you know?
I don't know what I would do. Being coerced in any way tends to reinforce my stubbornness.

Honestly I would rather die in pain than do that to anyone else.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:21 AM
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6. Because I nearly drowned once when I was a kid and know what that felt like
Anyone who thinks they would die in pain rather than give their torturers what they want is only kidding themselves.

Don
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:27 AM
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9. trust me
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 11:27 AM by northzax
you'd break. everyone breaks. only those with no imagination or intense faith (same thing, perhaps) don't. it's one thing to die a quick death as a martyr, it's another to die in agony. there's no shame in it, there is a reason it has such a long and glorious history of screwing things up.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:43 PM
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12. I do trust you
You're probably right.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:23 AM
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7. I just wanted to let you know
that they won't even have to torture me, I have already fingered you as a murika-hatin' terroist lover. I also accused you of illegally downloading music. sorry about that.

j'accuse!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:34 PM
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16. "Always remember that when you point a finger at some one...
...there are three pointing back at you. j'accuse! j'accuse! j'accuse! And, neener neener neener, too."

- Ms. Manners

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:26 AM
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8. Thirty pieces of silver will work for me.
:evilgrin:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:41 AM
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11. "Let FREEDOM Ring!"
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:23 PM
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13. I hear ya! They wouldn't even have to use the water on me...
just make me think they're gonna pour it on my face and they'd have me at their mercy.

I despise these people who "reserve the right" to inflict such torture on anyone.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:33 PM
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14. Exactly!
They wouldn't have to torture me. They'd just have to TELL me what they were gonna do to me and I'd be all, "Anne Frank? Oh, hell yeah...she's in my attic."
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:03 PM
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15. Wonder if there are a whole lot of us who had "bad water experiences"...
in our lives? Just listening to these creeps giving testimony on waterboarding and debating its "usefulness" gives me the heebie-jeebies, honestly!

I could handle being beat or any of that horrific stuff we saw in the Abu Ghraib photos, they could rip my fingernails off, even, and I wouldn't fold. But bring in the water buckets and I'd become a blubbering fool.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:36 PM
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17. Its cool. Cause I already turned you into the D.H.S. I had no choice.
(dept. of homeland security)
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:38 PM
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19. Did they have to torture you first?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:37 PM
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18. That's ok. I'll just turn in Ralph Reed or someone like that to avoid my torture.
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 06:37 PM by Iris
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:52 PM
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20. They'd hafta wait 35 minutes to torture me
I'd go from A is for Armitage to Z is for Zogby as terrorists, or at least until they tire of it, and commence to whoopin' my ass to get a different Brand of Names.

Prolly around K is for Katrina. :smoke:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:12 PM
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22. I don't think that is the way it works
I think the goons supply the list of names for the person to be tortured to choose from. Person being tortured probably won't even know many if any of the people on the list. They aren't looking for the truth using torture. They are looking for a specific predefined result before the torture even begins.

Don
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:51 PM
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23. Understood my friend
I'd just like to think I'd have the dignity to go under with a lil style :)
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 07:55 PM
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21. legally, it seems, in the past tense already, not just a future worry.
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:50 PM
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24. Thank you for using the future tense.
It is vaguely reassuring.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:58 PM
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25. Geez, you'd think we would have learned how ineffective torture is after the witch hunts of the
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 09:58 PM by Herdin_Cats
middle ages. All those people admitting to insane things like dancing with satan in the woods and accusing their neighbors of doing the same. Yep, those were truthful confessions.

I guess some things never change.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:21 PM
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26. Now, I can provoke you AND have that extended Caribbean vacation I've been dreaming of!
Three meals a day on the beach, free citrus colored jump suits, long walks in a gated community, no cooking...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:24 PM
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27. i think you've laid it out in a very rational manner....
george bu$h* tortures
dick chenee tortures
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:35 PM
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28. I will tell them everything I know...
and then they will surely drown me because I know so little.
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