Raise your hand if you hate Christian Zionists

[George_Bonanza]

What the hell business is it of theirs? And what's worse, their rabid lobbying leads people to think it's Jews that are over-exerting their influence in Washington. So the crazier Christian Zionists get, the more backlash against Jews there is, because some people are too ignorant to distinguish between extreme Zionists and Jews.

[madrchsod]

1. yes raised proudly

can`t stand the bastards

[The Straight Story]

2. So then.....will there be a backlash against christians from the posts I have seen here today?

And I don't have an issue with someone criticizing another group and some of the things they do, even jews.

[SweetLeftFoot]

3. Good point

Its the classic thing where its those who support a position but are not OF it are usually the most vehement.

Take the way the IRA used to raise loads of cash from New Yorkers and in Boston, all mad keen for The Cause, when the vast majority of Irish folk found the whole business awful and just wished it would stop.

[Bonobo]

4. What do you mean "Zionist"? Do you think Israel should stop existing!?

[BrklynLiberal]

8. Totally befuddling logic...

[Bonobo]

13. What is befuddling logic?

You have something to say? Stop muttering in the corner.

[txaslftist]

20. As a Jewish state? Yep.

As an inclusive democracy in which all people living within the borders have equal rights, including within the borders they occupy? Nope.

[BrklynLiberal]

5. Christian Zionists are not even Jewish. Do people know what their tenets are?

Christian Zionism (called Restorationism until recently, the term Christian Zionism appears only in the mid-twentieth century <1>) is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy and, furthermore, that bringing the Jews home will hasten the Second Coming <2>. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism, mainly in English-speaking countries outside Europe. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.

Christian Zionism, as a specifically theological belief, does not necessarily entail sympathy for the Jews as a nation or for Judaism as a religion. Since the biblical text is filled with references to God's chosen people, it is common for Christian Zionists to emphasize the Jewish roots of Christianity, and even to promote Jewish practices and Hebrew terminology as part of their own practice; however, Christian Zionists commonly believe that to fulfill prophecy, a significant number of Jews will accept Jesus as their Messiah, and that in the last days, such Messianic Jews will practice a thoroughly Hebraic form of Christianity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism
and the rest of the Jews will go to hell....

[Beausoleil]

14. Yes, the Jews must convert or die!

In the meantime, we're behind them 100%!
:sarcasm:

[Jed Dilligan]

6. Well, the Fundies who believe they need Israel to fight in their

Armageddon are some of the scariest and most dangerous people alive, see George W. Bush.

[bunkerbuster1]

7. Hate is a strong word

Being raised Christian and all.

But they're mighty annoying and presumptuous as hell. I'll give you that.

[The Stranger]

17. Perhaps a strong word is needed.

[Bonobo]

9. What I hate is to see people write "Hate" and "Zionist" in the same header.

In fact, it makes me want to punch them in their fucking faces, to be perfectly honest.

[atreides1]

11. So you ignored every word in between.

I guess intentional ignorance can be found everywhere?

[Bonobo]

12. Try having pennies chucked at you as a kid and you'd learn about cultural sensitivity.

[sam sarrha]

16. hey Atre_____ ,that is what happens when yo get over amp'd and run in swing'n, do some research and

ask for opinions..

there are a lot of different players in the game, it is intentionally confusing. you have to stay mellow to see the nuance.. start raving and no one will invite you to their party

[bpeale]

10. i don't HATE anybody. i hate them ramming their beliefs down my throat.

[sam sarrha]

15. time to get Rational..... stop the hate & Educate >>Link>

http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

[pingzing58]

18. Every single Baptist, Evangelical and Fundamentalist that believe in the Rapture also

believe in the Christian Zionist view that Israel should be restored to its former glory: Temple Judaism, for the events found in the Book of Revelation to occure hailing the return of Jesus and the end of days. Catholics, thank God, do not believe this hogwash at all - in fact, we believe that without a Palestinian State there will be no peace. Since so many believe that Temple Judaism should be re-established Christians pour lots of money into its promotion. Money, talks and when money talks, politicans listen. Israelies tolerate Christian Zionists because they need their help in expelling the Palestinians from biblical lands (although Moslems consider themselves Children of Abraham as do Christians and heirs to the promises that God made to Abraham and his children forever - don't they have a right to the land as well - didn't the Samaritans of Jesus' time live on the land as children of Abraham) and retaking the Temple Mount where "the abomination" The Dome of the Rock is.

Christian Zionist belief ranks right up there with Christian Creationism. But so many people believe - it's scary.

[txaslftist]

19. I pity them.

1) They've got the scripture all wrong.

2) They're creating anti Semitic backlash.

3) They're supporting murder and genocide.

4) They're selling war in Christ's name.

5) They're not very bright.

So pity would seem to be the more appropriate response.

[earth mom]

21. FYI- this is the kind of thread that gets people tombstoned for replying. nt

[Megahurtz]

22. Well

some Jews are Zionists and I'm not too crazy about them either.

[Blue_In_AK]

23. Some of the scariest people in the country, IMO.

I assume you're referring to the CUFI types.