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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:20 PM
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Obama Wouldn't Be First Black President
Obama Wouldn't Be First Black President
By Aysha Hussain


You've seen the headlines: "Are Americans Ready for a Black President?" "Is Obama Black Enough?" "Obama: America's First Black President?"


Ever since the nation first met Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in 2004, his race has been called into question more times than Michael Jackson's. Obama is clearly a black man, but is this really a breakthrough? Some blacks say Obama isn't "black enough," which seems ironic because for many blacks, former President Bill Clinton was "black enough." In 2001, Clinton was honored as the nation's "first black president" at the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Annual Awards Dinner in Washington, D.C.

Were there other "black" presidents? Some historians have reason to believe people don't really understand the genealogy of past U.S. Presidents. Research shows at least five U.S. presidents had black ancestors and Thomas Jefferson, the nation's third president, was considered the first black president, according to historian Leroy Vaughn, author of Black People and Their Place in World History.

Vaughn's research shows Jefferson was not the only former black U.S. president. Who were the others? Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge. But why was this unknown? How were they elected president? All five of these presidents never acknowledged their black ancestry.

Jefferson, who served two terms between 1801 and 1809, was described as the "son of a half-breed Indian squaw and a Virginia mulatto father," as stated in Vaughn's findings. Jefferson also was said to have destroyed all documentation attached to his mother, even going to extremes to seize letters written by his mother to other people.

...

Lincoln, the nation's 16th president, served between 1861 and 1865. Lincoln was said to have been the illegitimate son of an African man, according to Leroy's findings. Lincoln had very dark skin and coarse hair and his mother allegedly came from an Ethiopian tribe. His heritage fueled so much controversy that Lincoln was nicknamed "Abraham Africanus the First" by his opponents.

http://www.diversityinc.com/public/1461.cfm
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:30 PM
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1. There, in the distance, if you listen carefully....
Freeper heads exploding.

And Chevys rusting. But mostly Freeper heads exploding.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:32 PM
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2. LOL
Freepers heads exploding.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:33 PM
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3. I think their heads blew up due to the air pressure....(nt)
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:40 AM
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11. That's what happens when the pressure from the outside
is greater than the pressure on the inside... or, to quoter Homer Simpson: "Shut up brain or I'll stab you with a q-tip".
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:34 PM
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5. LOL! Are the rusting Chevys in the yards of the head-exploding freepturds?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:43 PM
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6. It's an old joke about GM vehicles from the '80s
I think GM tried some sort of primer-less paint for a few model years. It didn't work out so well, and the cars were basically rustbuckets if they weren't garaged.
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:42 AM
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12. you mean Republic Freeptards?
HAHAHAHA THERE HEADS ASPLODE!!!!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:24 AM
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20. I call them freep *turds* because...
...I've known many fine "retarded," or more politically correctly, mentally challenged, individuals, and I would not disparage them by associating them with freepers.

But I have no problem associating turds with freepers.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-24-07 11:34 PM
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4. Search Abraham Inlow father and his N.C. Roots
Abraham Inlow of North Carolina...this is a story told around North Carolina, do a search on Inlow, and search under Abe Lincoln's North Carolina roots.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:52 AM
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15. Abraham Enloe farm is preserved in Great Smoky Mtns Natl Park
There have been many legends of Nancy Hanks arriving pregnant in Kentucky and eventually marrying a nice guy named Lincoln to be her hubby and father to her soon-to-be son. Just where the young Miss Hanks came from has been open to dispute for decades. There seems to be evidence that she did work for a while at the farm of Abraham Enloe of Ravensford, North Carolina but left after become great-with-child. Ravensford is the southern entrance to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park (the Cherokee entrance) and the "Living Farm" there, adjacent to the Ranger Station and museum, is the reconstructed farm of Mr Enloe (at the same location, however, now known as Oconaluftee). Photographs of the elderly Mr Enloe do show a resemblance to Mr Lincoln but old people tend to have gaunt appearances and deep lines. Who knows, and who can say? Scholars disagree about it, however.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:18 AM
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7. Abraham Lincoln...our First Gay Black Republican President!
Is this a great country or what?
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:27 AM
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9. Abraham Lincoln...
also had epilepsy. You bet it's a great country!

:bounce:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:32 AM
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10. He was also a woman.
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:44 AM
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13. What about our First Gay Black Atheist Republican President?
lol
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:15 AM
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17. I bet he even inhaled
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:24 AM
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19. Clinton's Jealous
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:46 AM
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24. question there is...
If Hillary loses in '08, will Bill say "fuck it, from now on I'm INHALING!"?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:44 AM
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23. OK...Abe Lincoln...our First Black Lesbian Epileptic Athiest Republican Stoner President!
Edited on Sun Feb-25-07 01:47 AM by Ken Burch
I can hardly wait for the State of Illinois to try to fit all that on the next license plates.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:25 AM
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8. Their political opponents said so, so it must be true!
Until recently, having black ancestry was just about the worst thing you could accuse a politician of. I'd hate to think that the history of John Kerry's service in Vietnam is being written by his political opponents.

Anyway, I took 5 minutes to look this up in the Google (on the suspicion that, if this were true, I would have known about it). Dr. Vaughn is apparently a medical doctor, not an academic, so there's a little problem labeling him a "historian." Dr. Vaughn is an eye doctor. He's qualified to examine your eyes. From what I've seen, he's not qualified to write history.

Q. "But why was this unknown?"
A. Because it's not true!

What's stunning to me is not only that people pick up on these charges made by political opponents, but that they take them uncritically as gospel.
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:45 AM
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14. Abraham Lincoln DID have epilepsy, though...
So *I* was telling the truth! ;)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 12:56 AM
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16. Interesting Read. nt
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:24 AM
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18. A valid point
I've read quite a bit about these Presidents possibly having black ancestors.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:34 AM
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21. To be honest
The only US president I would consider a non-white is Warren Harding.
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KingofNewOrleans Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:39 AM
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22. The Harding one
seems as suspect as the rest of them.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:51 AM
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26. Although we do know that Harding was a playa
:sarcasm:
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:59 AM
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27. Yeah, you have to work pretty hard for Lincoln, Jefferson, et. al.
That story cites a bunch of rumors that are mainly discounted by biographers. The Lincoln one, for example, is total crap. His political opponents said Lincoln was part gorilla, too, as well as syphillitc, mentally ill, retarded, etc. The supposed "politics of destruction" today has NOTHING on 19th century hardball.

The evidence of black ancestry is extremely thin for Warren Gamaliel Bancroft Winnipeg Harding, too. Anyway, considering what a load of bullshit "race" is, I'd say a guy whose great grandparents passed for white was white. It's all culture and family resemblance, anyway.

What a wild man. Completely corrupt and incompetent, and allegedly used a room off the Oval office for one of his affairs (you thought Clinton was the first, but no). Now THAT's what I call a Republican.

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 02:24 AM
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28. How about being a "praciticing homo sapien"?
Happend in Florida a few decades ago. One candidate accused the other, in public and in print, of being a 'practicing homo sapien' and won the election.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 01:47 AM
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25. Didn't Chimpy get a black eye
when he fell off his bike? Does this count?
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