Did you EVER think you'd hear R's so disgusted that they're voting D?

[Philosoraptor]

Did you EVER think you'd live long enough to hear repubs actually saying that they'd rather vote Democratic than for mc cain, the assumed gop front runner? I've actually heard some of the repubs saying that they plan on NOT VOTING rather than vote for mc cain.

Am I hearing them right, or am I having another audio hallucination?

I could swear that I've heard multiple repubs saying these exact things, in fact, I thought I hallucinated anne coulter sending Hillary money for her election. I know, I know, I did too much antacid in the sixties.

[Perry Logan]

1. Ick! We don't want those votes. Those votes have COOTIES on them.

[mwb970]

2. Those are conservative extremist wackos you are hearing, not Republicans.

The 100% overlap between crazy conservatives like bush, Limbaugh, and Coulter (yuck) and the Republican Party is over. The Republicans will nominate McCain, who is hated by the crazy conservatives. Maybe they will start their own Crazy Wacko Party in response. That would be a hoot!

[Raven]

3. I have heard it a lot in NH and at first I was shocked. But the

republicans I talk to can find nothing redeeming about their party and the mess it has made of this country.

[DFW]

4. It's not unique to them, unfortunately

How many posters here proudly claim they will not vote for Obama/Clinton
(take your pick)? We have the same phenomenon on our side.

Willkommen in die Weimarer Republik.

[Orsino]

5. A party can work so completely against the interests of voters only for so long...

...before even the most unquestioning of party loyalists waver.

[vi5]

6. Look, they're not voting D they're voting R...

I hate to be harsh but anyone who honestly, sincerely, and truly believes with all their heart that any republicans ESPECIALLY Republicans like Coulter, Limbaugh, Beck, etc and their minions who are welded permanently to the republican party, are going to vote for the democrat over the republican, ESPECIALLY (although not limited to) if Hillary is the nominee are just straight out deluisional.

[Chimichurri]

7. well, they were never R's to begin with. They are a group of

hard working Americans who were sold a bill-of-goods.

[CrispyQ]

8. Don't beleive it.

A wise DUer posted last night (sorry, don't remember who) Limbaugh/Coulter are just saying that to sway the moderate undecideds into believing that McCain isn't a radical right wing nut in hopes they will vote repub after all.

[sheelz]

9. What was that Thom Hartman quote.?

[Virginia Dare]

10. No, I think they're serious..

I think limbaugh and coulter and the rest of those right wing whores would love to see a Hillary Clinton Presidency. It would give them something to rail on 24/7 for the next 4 years. It's completely self-serving. They are all pathalogically obsessed with the Clintons.

[KharmaTrain]

11. I Started To See It In '04

I saw a marked changed in the "moderate" Repugnicans I would canvass between '00, '02 and '04. In '00 they were pissed about the Clenis and in love with booooshie boy...they wanted to have a beer with the dude and laugh about sleezy hummers. The economy was good (but that was because of Raygun and the GOOP Congress). In '02, they were scared shit...Democrats were weak and they had just gotten a nice check...Rove pulled the strings and they won control of the Senate and gained in the House. In '04, Iraq was just starting to divide people...the 9/11 card still worked and the economy still hadn't gone into the dumper...but people were starting to wonder if all was really that good. The questions weren't answered and the "base" could still justify supporting booosh...but the signs were there that all was not as solid. Many I would encounter would praise booosh but always with a bitch attached...defecits, not enough right wing judges and so on.

The worm turned with the Schaivo circus. The outright pandering to the religious right scared many in the "mainstream"...the the aftermath pissed off the religious right. Katrina, Abu Grahb, No WMD, rising oil prices, Abramoff and then Foley started to peel away the support...the "moderates" stayed home.

This year...another 2,000 dead in Iraq since '06 with no end in sight, a destroyed economy that can't be papered over and the constant exposure of more corruption within this regime has driven the moderates and the right wing in different directions. Many of the moderates see the right wingers in control and that 7 years of booosh has been a disaster...a change is needed. Obama...and to a lesser degree Edwards...appear to have hit a note with many of these moderates who see Democrats as far more capable of dealing with the economy and Iraq than the Repugnicans. Its not as much that these people are coming our way as much as their party has moved far away from them.

I've been very enthused with many GOOPers I encounter this year...the wingnuts are so pissed among themselves they haven't really focused on the general election. The vast majority of "moderates"...or centrists would be a better term...are not only very open to finding common ground rather than differences (note the Thread here by the former GOOPer who is dialoging with us)...I've encountered this in the "real world". There's a change in the political dynamic out there this year and the GOOP is tone deaf. May they remain that way for a long, long time.

Cheers...