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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:27 PM
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Call me a coward, but
I don't think I'd want to be president right now. This utter disaster (the whole shebang, not just Iraq) is going to take a very, very, very long time to fix - if it's even fixable.

Whoever becomes President is going to inherit one hell of a mess. I wouldn't want it. We're going to see a lot more pain in a very short time.

Whoever becomes forty-four is going to have a hell of a time. We're going to be in an economic downturn so bad that it's going to have to be called the depression it is rather than recession people are pretending is starting.

The world is warming faster than even Al Gore thought would happen and we're involved in two wars in which we can neither stay nor leave.

Like I said, I'm probably a coward for not even wanting the job, LOL.

Please don't turn this into the candidate wars. I'm very pessimistic about our future right now, now matter who wins. Convince me this mess we're in is fixable and anyone wanting to be President isn't insane.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:35 PM
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1. I so agree with you. Who would want this job?
gwb has screwed up everything and anything he has ever touched and there was always someone to come and clean up after him. But this time his mess is larger than anything he has ever done before (we probably don't know the half of it) and who ever is the President will have an enormus job of cleaning up. I don't think the clean up can be done in even one or two terms, if at all. I give Obama and Clinton credit for even thinking they want this job. I guess I'm a coward, too, because I sure wouldn't want it. Where to even begin the clean up?
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:38 PM
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2. Yeah
I think it could be decades before we're out from under this mess. It's going to require that infamous "hard work."

Just cleaning up the justice department alone is going to be a nightmare.
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:44 PM
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5. I think this mess is cleanupable (new word!!)
I think with some diplomacy, we can start to straighten things out in the middle east (at least as much as possible) Hopefully the dips in congress don't make permanant the tax cuts of the bush presidenacy and we can get them retracted. Get some cash in the hands of the middle class and start to get the economy going. I just by getting intelligent people involved in the various agencies who will engage in intelligent dialogue will start to turn things around
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Angela Shelley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:57 PM
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12. Cleanupable rocks!
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:43 PM
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3. I hear ya
Who would want such a job?

But if I were to take it, I would explain at every turn that as President, I wasn't afforded the luxury of doing what I would like to do, but instead handed the task of doing what I had to do to clean up the intractable mess that bushco left the country in. If that means going down in history as the second most hated President ever,and if my actions taken in the cleanup process precluded a second term, so be it.

If it's what I had to do for the good of the nation as a whole, I would do it.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:44 PM
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4. That is exactly what they said about Bush 1's Presidency
Most qualified Democrats didn't even want to run against Bush 1 and that is why a fairly unheard of Governor got the Democratic nomination..
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:53 PM
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8. That might be why
No Republican that anyone actually *likes* (on that side) is running. They've seen the writing on the wall!

I've been waiting for someone like Gingrich to announce, but they know just how bad Bush has screwed things up and don't want to be blamed.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:45 PM
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6. I wouldn't take this job for anything.
There is no way the next Prez can put the brakes on the things that are occurring now - the momentum is just too great.

My fantasy is that the next POTUS calls a press conference - or an immediate State of the Union Address and lay out EXACTLY what we're faced with, so we don't have unrealistic hopes of what can be accomplish.

More than ever, our President needs to level with us and be transparent so we can stop pointing fingers and get to work on saving our future.

CONCURRENTLY with prosecuting and sentencing Bushco, of course. That would convince the people of what had been perpetrated against us, AND help us heal, I think.


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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:55 PM
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9. I like your ideas
You sure you don't want the job?
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:46 PM
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7. Some see great problems as great opportunities
Imagine what the world will think of someone who manages to fix this mess?
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:56 PM
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10. Since I don't believe
It can be done in less than 25 years, I'd think they were a miracle worker - and I don't even believe in miracles.
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Angela Shelley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:56 PM
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11. Imagine what the world would think of a "society"
which would be willing to "collectively clean up this mess", which doesn´t depend on ONE PRESIDENT to make the change.

We are all in this boat together, start rowing.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 01:58 PM
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13. Now that,
I agree with! And the first step to that is getting rid of the "Me First!" republicans responsible for this mess.

And to lay some blame, some of our own Democrats need to learn that they have to fight for what they believe in. Anyone not willing to do so should quit.

The R's are deserting the sinking ship so we could end up with huge leads in the house and senate - and without those, it doesn't matter who is president.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:01 PM
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14. This is exactly why OxyRush has no problem with the Dems winning this time.



After 8 years of the corrupt BushCo admin and at least six years of the rethuglicans owning Congress

OxyRush knows every aspect of our government is FUBAR. He wants the Dems to take the heat for what the

goppers did. If by some miracle something good happens he will of course say they set it up that way.



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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:04 PM
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15. Yes. Democrats tend to get the thankless job of cleaning up after GOP spending orgies.
And not too many Democrats are up to the job. It's always six steps back, then one forward. Rinse and repeat.

I've said before that we need a hero in the Oval Office, for this very reason; a corportist Democrat is just not gonna cut it. We also need heroes in Congress, too, and at least the partial attention of all voters.

I'm not very optimistic about the Republic these days.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 02:04 PM
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16. It's no accident that Mitt started his campaign for 2012.
:shrug:

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