Hungry?

[undergroundpanther]

I eat dinner and I am hungry a few hours later could THIS have anything to do with it? An interesting article I found...

As early as the 1930s, writers saw a link between nutrient-depleted soils and increased health problems (9-10).

The alarming fact is that foods -- fruits and vegetables and grains -- now being raised on million acres of land that no longer contains enough of certain needed minerals, are starving us, no matter how much of them we eat.
-- U.S. Senate Document 264, 1936

The Acres,U.S.A articles “Exhausted Soil Produces Exhausted People,” by Sam Hood (June 1993, p. 30 & 39) and “The Argument for 'Expensive Urine'“ by Joel Wallach (November 1993, p. 24) provide examples from the alternative press that depleted soils result in increased health problems (11). In addition, Hood suggests that soil fungi play a vital role in plant nutrition, that the fungi actively stimulate synthesis of amino acids, proteins, and other plant nutritive factors in addition to their well-known symbiotic benefits such as assimilation of water and nutrients, especially phosphorus.



http://www.soilandhealth.org/06clipfile/Nutritional%20Quality%20of%20Organically-Grown%20Food.html

[MannyGoldstein]

1. Isn't It Strange?

Life expectancy in the US was about 45 years in 1900. It's about 75 years now. And it keeps increasing by about four months each year - here, and in the rest of the industrialized world, and even most of the pooorer world.

And nobody knows why.

[Mojorabbit]

5. It is true that we are stripping

good farmland of all it's nutrients. Without fertilizers made from oil we would be up a creek. I am hoping organic farming really takes off in the coming decades.

[Truthiness Inspector]

6. LOL. n/t

[GreenZoneLT]

7. Sez who, nobody knows why?

Lots of people know why. Better childhood nutrition (missing trace minerals is nothing compared to missing calories, which was routine in much of the western world and Japan prior to WWII), vaccination, antibiotics, dental care, and other disease-fighting medicine and technology. Plus, fewer of us work in dangerous professions than in the past.

The old three-score-and-ten has been the healthy person's life expectation for millennia; the mean age was 45 because so many people died young from disease or accident.

[MannyGoldstein]

10. You May Be Right

But it's not been statistically demonstrated.

Just think - life expectancy has increased by 10 years just since 1977. Wow! I think that's amazing!

[JanMichael]

8. Life expectancy after 35 however has not increased so dramatically.

Getting rid of childhood death rocks the mean but when looking at those outside of that special age category things don't look so rosy.

In the 1850's if one lived to 35 years old they would generally pass 70. Same now.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Infant Mortality Has Not Had A Strong Effect

on life expectancy in many years. Do the math and check it out.

The effect is mostly due to adults living longer.

[JanMichael]

11. You were were going from 1900. So was I.

1900 was in fact for our purposes many years ago. Life expectancy in America for someone who was 35 years years old in 2002 was basically http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html">76 years old or another 41 years. In 1850 it was around 60 years from 35 years old or 25 years extra and in 1925 it was the same (61 from 35). This is a 16 year jump in 75/150 years. I would estimate that certain procedures and drugs have caused this 16 year life expectancy increase for those who need the assistance as well as a decrease in war death per capita. WWII and the depression impacted this group gravely.

So basically you are mistaken. The mean has been dramatically raised by the elimination of childhood and mass illness death. Vaccinations are a part of this too.

Good night.

[MannyGoldstein]

12. I'm Looking Forward To It!

I actually like being proven wrong - it means I've learned something new.

(But I'm pretty sure that I'm right...)

[JanMichael]

15. I neglected sleep and edited my post.

A 14 year increase in life expectancy for a 35 year old in 75 years. Good but not stellar.

Not the gigantic increase which you suggested from 1900. 45 to 75 right?

Knock out childhood death and it's 61 to 75.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Thanks! That's Really Interesting to Know!

I hope you got some sleep!

Are the tables that you used on the web? Medical stats are a hobby of mine, I'm always looking for new sources of data.

[Richard D]

16. From what I understand

. . . one of the main reasons that life-expectancy is rising is that childhood deaths are falling, primarily due to the better treatment and prevention of childhood diseases.

[MonkeyFunk]

2. I think it's pretty normal

to be hungry a few hours after eating. Eating small meals throughout the day or grazing all day long seems to be the "natural" state for many people.

I find it hard to believe we're starving - we consume more calories than ever.

[Kali]

3. I get REALLY hungry after 8 or 10 hours...

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

4. That must be where they plant all the vegetables used in ...

... Chinese food. :dunce:

[undergroundpanther]

14. Bwahahaha//

Maybe you are onto something...

[undergroundpanther]

13. Age

So we have lived longer..well my quality of life sucks so I hope I don't live to be 80,myself.My disk disease hurts I don't want to imagine how bad it will be when I am, 60, 70, 80...Also many people who get that old suffer too.Old folks pop a lot of expensive pills to stay alive.What use is a long life if it is not happy? Rich people won't have to suffer but the poor will suffer as they get older they get worse because they can't afford the help rich poeople get. And worse it will get unless we do something about economic inequality.Rich people what makes them so special, howcome they don't fret over medical care or heating oil? Who gave them the right to TAKE so much?