Hey .... MSNBC ......... Misogyny Should Never Be Condoned

[Stinky The Clown]

Thankfully, Media Matters is on the case.

http://mediamatters.org/

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802080011?f=h_top

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802080010

On edit ..... I don't want Shuster's head on a platter. I want Capus' head on a platter. I want Matthews' head on the same platter, along with Fat Timmeh's. I also want MORE women in permanent slots on their air time.

Rachel Maddow would be the perfect one to occupy a new chair in place of the one that the Carlson boy has been farting in for far too long.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. I agree.

Shuster's such a media whore.

[wryter2000]

2. Hey, back in the kitchen, you!

Thanks for your post on this subject. I have to shake my head sometimes.

[kikiek]

3. And the beat goes on. I don't understand the free pass on misogyny. Substitute any other race.

[wtmusic]

4. Misogyny?

"Doesn't it seem like Chelsea's sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?"

First, for for all the kneejerkers: I have no argument with the notion that misogynistic comments make it on to MSNBC 50 times a day.

But in this particular case Shuster is saying the elder Clintons were treating Chelsea like a whore. An obnoxious and inappropriate comment, but if someone claims it's misogynistic I'm gonna do a search on your username and find every instance you referred to someone, male or female, as a "whore", "media whore", etc.

[CTyankee]

8. Fine, search me!

No, this is clear in its intent, even if "poor" David Shuster can't quite muster the sense to understand it.

If anyone was "pimped out" in this campaign it should have been the Romney boys. Not one little, tiny whelp out of Shuster and his posse of little "guys" on that little gaggle...

[tsuki]

15. I think maybe the real pimps are the "Boys in the Club." Multi-millionaire

celebrity hosts of 24/7 infotainment channels preaching their bosses own special interest. Who exactly is Shuster "pimping" for.

Leave talk like that in the locker room.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. Have at it

[Missy Vixen]

16. Please search on my name as well

I've been here seven years. I'd love to see what you might unearth, because to my knowledge, the only time I used the word "whore" on this website was to reference the desperately missed mediawhoresonline.com.

The comment about Chelsea Clinton was waaaay over the line. I don't care for the Bush girls, but I don't care for the constant use of the word "whore", either. It's a very loaded word, especially for women.

Julie

[wtmusic]

18. So accusing someone of treating someone else like a whore

is misogynistic?

:shrug:

[Missy Vixen]

19. Ask any woman how they feel about the word "whore"

Be sure and ask them if they've ever been called a "whore" as well, and what their thoughts were on that.

Julie

p.s. By the way, did I use the word "whore" to describe any female in any of my postings over the past seven years?

[wtmusic]

29. I didn't look, I trust you, but you're still missing the point.

Accusing anyone of treating someone else like a whore indicates misogyny? That is the point.

[Skittles]

20. here's the thing

sure, "whore" in that sense can apply to men as well as women - but people in the media don't USE it for men - they did not call Romney's sons WHORES when they PIMPED FOR THEIR DAD. Get it? It's really not so much the remark as it is the sheer hatred of Clintons in general that is the problem

[stray cat]

5. Fire everyone on every station who ever said something offensive to someone!

[Kitty Herder]

6. I, for one, would love to see Rachel Maddow take Carlson's spot.

She rocks!

[sandnsea]

dupe

[sandnsea]

7. Oh god, not here too

I left GDP because *I* couldn't even take it over there. And now it's here too. :cry:

[Stinky The Clown]

11. This has nothing directly to do with the campaigns

This is about something that was said by a teevee yakker that was incredibly offensive about the daughter of candidate. Its a media story, not a primaries story.

[NNN0LHI]

9. Shuster has been spending too much time with Scarborough n/t

[earthside]

12. MSNBC Hates Women?

Actually, MSNBC's news coverage tilts left as far as cable networks go.

MSNBC reporters, anchors, staff certainly make mistakes just as anyone else in the 24/365 hour television business .. but misogyny?

That's a bit ... no, a whole lot of exaggeration.

[Stinky The Clown]

14. First off, I don't much care about what Shuster said ......

.... after an apology, I can live with it. I suspect most people can ...... except maybe Shuster himself.

The misogynists are Matthews and Russert. And Capus lets it happen, even as he has the power to stop it.

There's a very big difference between a single slip, no matter how awful, and a pattern of such behavior. Matthews and Russert exhibit such a pattern. For his part, there's no way on this earth Capus is unaware of the complaints about those two.

[KoKo]

17. Remember a certain comment about "Nappy Headed Ho's" by the now

absent Don Imus whose radio show was broadcast on MSNBC?

[renate]

21. here's the thing, as I see it

Don Imus was referring directly to the women on the basketball team as nappy-headed ho's. For no reason other than that he thought it was funny, and he'd been allowed to get away with all kinds of crap because he earned beaucoup money for his networks.

David Shuster was asking whether other people were using Chelsea. I didn't see the show live, but from what I've read he in no way implied that she herself actually was anything like a whore... only that the people who thought that having a candidate's daughter--someone whom her parents had been very vocal about keeping out of politics--make phone calls was a good idea.

I'll admit that context is everything, and that Shuster is someone I've trusted in the past, whereas Imus seems to be a consistently giant tool. But the two situations don't seem really comparable to me. :shrug:

[spooky3]

27. did you bother to read the many examples the OP linked?

Until you do, you have no basis for declaring anything to be "exaggeration."

[NC_Nurse]

13. He fucked up, no doubt.

I'm glad they suspended him.

It would be great if they made amends by giving Rachel Tucker's slot. :thumbsup:

[VotesForWomen]

22. they clearly like to present a 'bad boy' image. women should ignore the network. nt

[orleans]

24. women should ignore the network? why? in hopes that the bad things

will just go away?

[blondeatlast]

25. Who else gives Rachel Maddow a platform on TV? Hell no, I won't ignore the QUALITY

programming on MSNBC.

(ahem, I'm a woman--to spare you checking my profile)

[orleans]

23. wow--that middle link you posted--what a laundry list of chauvinistic crap

that spews out of those mouths at msnbc

that piece of shit scarborough & that "don't make me backhand you" holy shit! i hadn't heard that. what would the audience reaction/staff reaction have been if she had laughed and said "you touch me and i'll kick you between the legs, joe"

all these people saying this is not misogyny--well misogyny, according to dictionary.com, means "hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women." perhaps these men don't hate, don't dislike, or don't mistrust--but i think it's obvious they don't respect women.

male chauvinist: "a man whose behavior and attitude toward women indicate a belief that they are innately inferior to men. "
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=male%20chauvinism

they are definitely a bunch of chauvinists

[ChairmanAgnostic]

26. come on. they already have nhora o"donnell, and other

brainless wonders wandering aimlessly. The thing is not more women, or minorities, but QUALITY.

Rachel would be great. Superb. And she would attract a huge audience.

[Quantess]

28. Sorry, but I think this is overreacting just a little bit.

The guy probably blurted it out without thinking. He's been sufficiently yelled at.
Now let's move forward.