What is a "'solid' conservative"?

[underpants]

:shrug:

"I think that if John's the nominee, he has got some convincing to do to convince people that he is a solid conservative."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/11/wuspols211.xml



This picture provided by Fox News shows US President George W. Bush (R) being interviewed by Fox News anchor Chris Wallace at the Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland. Bush said John McCain has a lot of work left to convince Republicans he is a "solid" conservative, but said he would support his one-time rival if McCain wins the party's presidential nomination.
(AFP/Fox News-HO)

[msongs]

1. is it anything like petrified wood.....from Arizona? nt

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. I am not certain, but...

I think the phrase relates, somehow, to an intestinal impaction.

[El Supremo]

3. Full of shit and constipated

[Cerridwen]

4. solid - entrenched, dumb as a rock, immovable, stuck in the mud,

narrow minded, dull, un-creative, incapable of independent thought, suspended in amber - ya know, solid.

:evilgrin:

[Canuckistanian]

10. And about as dynamic as concrete

Set concrete, of course.

[Cerridwen]

14. Precisely where I was going with that. Thank you! n/t

[underpants]

15. suspended in amber

I have to remember that one

:thumbsup:

[Solly Mack]

5. It's the difference between loose and solid stool

None. It's still shit.

[DJ13]

6. A turd that sinks to the bottom

[TomInTib]

7. Huckabee, with lower body-fat.

Or maybe any one of those truly petrified f**ks.

[Jack Rabbit]

8. What is a solid conservative?

A bronze statue of Barry Goldwater in front of the state capitol in Phoenix?

[readmoreoften]

9. The opposite of liquid waste?

:shrug:

[Webster Green]

11. Solid conservative: Enagages in sex in with strangers in public restrooms..

Has a lover on the sly and at least one divorce, relishes watching the suffering of others, has an inflated view of their own importance, loves war, hates enyone not just like themselves, doesn't believe in science, loves the destruction of the environment and it's creatures, would sell their mother into slavery for a couple of hundred bucks.......

[MadMaddie]

12. Solid Conservative - Afraid of their own shadow so they avoid

anything new, unfamiliar. They would rather have knee jerk reaction than analyze the real problems.

They do believe in perpetual war
They do believe in Corporations ruling the world.
They do not believe in science.
They do not believe in Womens rights.
They do not believe in taxes (even if it is for infrastructure of the country)
They wrap themselves in religion in order to justify their hate for women, gays, liberals....(fill in the blank).
They NEVER take responsibility for their actions.

Reagan-ignored the Aids epidemic when it could have been controlled
* Senior - Ex CIA- Iran Contra Fiasco
* Junior - list is too long
Limpballs drug addict but still has followers
Coultergeist - Nazi
30% remaining * supporters - Christian Taliban in America..

That's my list...anyone else got anyting to add.

[varkam]

13. I think it basically refers to an individual's stance on a number of issues that are central...

to the conservatives. Someone who has clearly stated their positions throughout their political career on things like Roe v. Wade, gun control, gay marriage, the function of the federal government, et cetera are in line with the so-called conservative movement would be a "solid" conservative.

[JoePhilly]

16. I have a "solid conservative" each mornng around 9am ...

But then again, I do try to get my fiber.

[underpants]

18. BamdumPppshsssh!!

:rofl:

Welcome to Du :hi: ifn't I ahven't before.

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. Great minds think a like

I just posted mine when I saw yours..


Turd


may him blossom to this

[Olney Blue]

17. Anthony Scalia and Clarence Thomas. Role models for the solids.

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. A Solid Conservative is

When you haven't taken a shit in 3 days because of your diet of red meat.

[eppur_se_muova]

21. One free of termites? nt

:shrug:

[Hissyspit]

22. An asshole?

Is this a trick question?

[happyslug]

23. Edmund Burke is the classic "Solid Conservative"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke

Basically, change when it is needed and shown to be needed, but stay the course if no change is needed. Thus Burke supported the American Revolution for it was needed change given the British attitude to American of the 1770s, but Burke opposed the French Revolution for it made changes that were NOT needed, even if an improvement. Thus the test for a Conservative of the Burke School was simply, was the change needed? not that the change was good or bad (Change for the Good was a viewed as a "Liberal" movement).

This view of Conservatism must be viewed in opposition to that of a Reactionary, who wants to undo changes that have been done, and "Economic Liberals" who want to free Business of government Regulations. Yes, that sounds like the GOP of today but the historical name is "Economic Liberals", thus prior to the 1930s what we call "Liberals" today, called themselves "Progressives". It was FDR who popularized the name "liberal" for left wing causes, something rare in Europe to this day, and unheard of prior to FDR,. This change in American political Terminology was FDR trying to show his New Deal was NOT some radical program (As the Progressives had advocated for since the 1870s), but just another liberal program, like the pro-business liberal programs of the GOP since the Civil War that freed business from regulations of the State.

This has been one of the problem of the GOP since about 1900, they are really a pro-corporation party (Economic Liberals) who want Government to do what is best for Corporations. Social Liberals started to leave the economic liberals in the 1890s when it became clear that given a choice between greater profits (and lost lives and Income for the poor) and taking care of the working class and poor, Economic Liberals backed Corporation and opposed labor). Labor then moved from being a GOP dominated group to a Democratic Group (Basically more in the 1920s and 1930s, but the movement was on by 1900). Blacks followed labor, starting in the 1930s, but increasingly in the 1940s and 1950s (As the Democratic Party embraced Civil Rights, which the GOP had embraced since 1854). The difference between the parties became clearer over time. The Democrats supported Civil Rights with little restrictions, but the GOP always sided with business when it came to conflicts between business and Civil Rights.

Thus a Solid Conservative is someone who is pro-business, and care less about anything else (including social reforms, such as improving the Rights of Labor the Rights of women and minorities and the environment) except to the degree needed to get elected. The problem is that even the GOP knows they can not get elected on just a pro-business ticket so the GOP runs candidates on Social issues, but, once elected, ignores those social issues if the proposed reform interferes with business. The problem is being for these non-business groups brings those groups into the GOP, and sooner or later they want a real say in who is the GOP candidate.

Thus the GOP dilemma, McClain is NOT 100% pro-business, he has and will compromise the interest of business when other issues are as important (Civil Rights, labor rights, the environment, medical care etc). Huckabee is the same, not 100% pro business (He actually believes it is the duty of Government to help ALL the people, not just business). The GOP need people who support candidates like McClain and Huckabee, but the GOP leadership don't want them in control. Thus neither can be a "Solid Conservative" for both are in the Burkean School of being Conservative as opposed the the Economic Liberal School of Conservatism.

[Skittles]

24. they love torture, don't like paying for anything, worship St. Ronnie

you know, that kind of creepiness

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

25. Not sure, but I think it has something to do with Viagra.

:shrug:

[dysfunctional press]

26. a blockhead.