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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:09 PM
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OK DUers this is the Bush playbook for the 2008 elections
Bushco plan to use the Guantanamo trial for the 2008 election campaign.
Nothing they do is without a political motive.
I'm watched the press conference at the Pentagon now and I will not be played. They're going to hang some detainees to win some votes. :puke: :puke:

Three great questions asked at the press conference:
Why have you decided to try them together?
Why are you doing it right now?
Will there be television?

I smell a rat.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:10 PM
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1. political show business...i agree totally...nothing is done by chance
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:16 PM
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2. And like everything else, they'll fuck it up.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:17 PM
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3. if they get executed without a fair and open trial
their will be riots.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:18 PM
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7. Yep. They are towing into very dangerous waters.
I don't see it happening within a years. Lawsuits and appeals will hold it up for a very long time.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:17 PM
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4. How long has it been?
5 years? And they are just now going to trial? How obvious can they get?

By the way, where's Osama?

Mz Pip
:dem:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:33 PM
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13. The already dead Osama
will die again before November. Of course Benazir Bhutto's tape with David Frost will spread like wildfire. :D
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:17 PM
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5. The legality of military execution trials should drag it out for more than a year.
I think the military will have to be very careful with this.

They may try them, but the evidence was gained through coercion and torture.

And they want to execute, with that evidence, from a military court. I can't see it happening within chimpy's term.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:21 PM
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9. I would agree, except these are not normal times...
And Chimpy has far too much power. Unless there are some in the military who are strong-willed and protected enough to stand up to the Chimperor, anything goes.

We can no longer judge things on what has happened in the past, or what "should" be.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:27 PM
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11. When the CIA admitted to tortue last week, the International Community
spoke up. They were called torturers and War Criminals by Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and the UN Human Rights Organization.

The military courts are not going to want to face the possible consequences. This isn't a secret, and I don't see that hanging 6 old terrorists in a shady way will bring chimpy or pukes into favor.

It will enrage many inside and outside this country if it is done questionably.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:59 PM
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16. I would agree, except...
BushCo doesn't give an airborne rodent's derriere what the world thinks, or he wouldn't have so thoroughly ruined our reputation. The military reports to their Commander in Chief... guess who.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:18 PM
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6. FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!!
I agree... This should help McCain a great deal, since he seems to be the front-runner AND the biggest whiner about "The Terrorists" who hate us for our freedoms...

So, one or two guys are going to be tried... and how many are being held without reason? That's the real question.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:21 PM
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8. Multiple rats. It not only is being done for political theatre right now
but the trap is being set for the next Dem president. One of many traps to be set. The trap is that these trials will likely be wrapping up a few months after they take office. When faced with detainees who have been tortured into confessing facing hanging what will they do? If they decide not to go forward they look like they are pardoning terrorists, if they let them go forward they look like hypocrites to their base.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:25 PM
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10. Absolutely they will try to get
all the mileage they can squeeze out of it for McCain. If they can do the executions just before the election you know it will be a shot in the arm to energize the base.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:30 PM
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12. why is the Pentagon releasing a diary of an "AQI" leader they found 4 months ago?
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 05:30 PM by sabra
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:35 PM
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14. Expect lots more of these
All bullshit for votes. Expect M$M to play along.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 05:39 PM
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15. expect Hannity to start having exclusives regarding Saddam's WMD that
were moved to Syria :crazy:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:24 PM
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17. oh jees....
that's just what my repub brother thinks, too! I won't answer the phone. Nope, just won't do it. Bad enough it's all lies on the tv, I don't need to be phoned on lies.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:34 PM
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18. They hung Saddam right before the 2006 midterms
I thought and still do think that was a sick thing to do , it helped nothing and did nothing . It was insane and sick even if he was no great man .
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:36 PM
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19. Not true
They hanged him around New Year's Eve. They did have the trial before the elections.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:03 PM
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21. nothing like a good hanging to get everybody riled up
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:44 PM
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20. I picked them off a few days ago when I first read about this
My post is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3174975

They're playing games with the American voter again.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:00 PM
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23. You were right
They can't play me - I know every trick.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:57 PM
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22. EXACTLY my first thought. They'll wring it for all it's worth.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:06 PM
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24. Oh, that sounds about right...
And no matter who they hang (check under the hoods), the ultraright will eat it up and demand more. And think that it's a good sign, in the "war against terror".

:puke:
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