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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:24 AM
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Senators Whitehouse, Durbin Call for Waterboarding Investigation
http://whitehouse.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=292749

Press Release of Senator Whitehouse

Whitehouse, Durbin Call for Waterboarding Investigation

Department of Justice Should Determine Whether Officials Authorized Use of Torture

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) joined U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) in a letter to two Justice Department watchdog offices today to request an investigation into the role of Justice Department officials in authorizing and/or overseeing the use of waterboarding by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Both senators are members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Despite the virtually unanimous consensus of legal scholars and the overwhelming weight of legal precedent that waterboarding is illegal, certain Justice Department officials, operating behind a veil of secrecy, concluded that the use of waterboarding is lawful,” the senators wrote. “The Justice Department’s continued refusal to repudiate waterboarding does tremendous damage to America’s values and image in the world and places Americans at risk of being subjected to waterboarding by enemy forces. We believe it merits investigation to determine if these grievous results were the product of legal theories violating the Department’s professional standards, or improper influence violating the Department’s standards for independent legal advice.”

Last year, Whitehouse asked Judge Michael B. Mukasey, then the Bush administration’s nominee to be Attorney General, whether the practice of waterboarding is torture or is constitutional. Mukasey’s failure to state definitively that waterboarding is torture led Whitehouse to vote against his nomination, and Whitehouse has since joined a series of efforts by Senator Durbin and other Judiciary Committee Democrats to press the Attorney General to reassess its conclusion that the practice is legal. In a hearing last week before the Senate Intelligence Committee, of which Whitehouse is a member, General Michael Hayden, director of the CIA, publicly acknowledged for the first time that the U.S. government had used waterboarding during interrogations of several detainees, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed.

The full text of the letter is below, and a PDF copy is available.

February 12, 2008

The Honorable Glenn A. Fine
Inspector General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20530

The Honorable H. Marshall Jarrett
Counsel for Professional Responsibility
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Room 3266
Washington, D.C. 20530

Dear Inspector General Fine and Counsel Jarrett:

We request that you investigate the role of Justice Department officials in authorizing and/or overseeing the use of waterboarding by the Central Intelligence Agency.

Attorney General Michael Mukasey refuses to investigate the Administration’s authorization and use of waterboarding. CIA Director Michael Hayden has testified that the CIA waterboarded three detainees, and Attorney General Mukasey has testified that, “There are circumstances where waterboarding is clearly unlawful.” Nonetheless, the Attorney General refused Senator Durbin’s request to investigate because he does “not believe such an investigation is necessary, appropriate, or legally sustainable.”

Attorney General Mukasey admitted that, “the CIA sought advice from the Department of Justice, and the Department informed the CIA that use would be lawful under the circumstances and within the limits and the safeguards of the program.” The Attorney General’s justification for refusing to open an investigation is that, “no one who relied in good faith on the Department’s past advice should be subject to criminal investigation for actions taken in reliance on that advice.” However, this does not address Senator Durbin’s request that “a Justice Department investigation should explore whether waterboarding was authorized and whether those who authorized it violated the law” (our emphasis).

Waterboarding has a sordid history in the annals of torture by repressive regimes, from the Spanish Inquisition to the Khmer Rouge. The United States has always repudiated waterboarding as a form of torture and prosecuted it as a war crime. The Judge Advocates General, the highest-ranking attorneys in each of the four military services, have stated unequivocally that waterboarding is illegal and violates Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.

Yet, despite the virtually unanimous consensus of legal scholars and the overwhelming weight of legal precedent that waterboarding is illegal, certain Justice Department officials, operating behind a veil of secrecy, concluded that the use of waterboarding is lawful. We believe it is appropriate for you to investigate the conduct of these Justice Department officials. As you know, a similar investigation is underway regarding Justice Department officials who advised the National Security Agency that its warrantless surveillance program is lawful.

To restore the faith of our intelligence professionals and the American people in the Justice Department’s ability to provide accurate and honest legal advice, we request that you make your findings public.

We ask that you explore, among other things:

· Did Justice Department officials who advised the CIA that waterboarding is lawful perform legal work that meets applicable standards of professional responsibility and internal Justice Department policies and standards? For example, did these officials consider all relevant legal precedents, including those that appear to contradict directly their conclusion that waterboarding is lawful? Did these officials consult with government attorneys who are experts in the relevant legal standards, e.g. Judge Advocates General who are experts in the Geneva Conventions? Was it reasonable to rely on standards found in areas such as health care reimbursement law in evaluating interrogation techniques?

· Were Justice Department officials who advised the CIA that waterboarding is lawful insulated from outside pressure to reach a particular conclusion? What role did White House and/or CIA officials play in deliberations about the lawfulness of waterboarding?

We agree with Attorney General Mukasey that our intelligence professionals should be able to rely in good faith on the Justice Department's legal advice. However, if CIA agents or contractors have been put in jeopardy by misguided counsel from the Justice Department, including legal opinions that the Administration has been forced to repudiate, and as a result they risk war crimes prosecution overseas, this is a serious matter. It also places CIA agents at risk of receiving similarly flawed advice in the future. Moreover, the Justice Department’s continued refusal to repudiate waterboarding does tremendous damage to America’s values and image in the world and places Americans at risk of being subjected to waterboarding by enemy forces. We believe it merits investigation to determine if these grievous results were the product of legal theories violating the Department’s professional standards, or improper influence violating the Department’s standards for independent legal advice.

We respectfully request that you inform us whether you plan to initiate a review as soon as possible, and no later than February 19, 2008. We also request that you inform us whether the results of your review will be provided to Congress and made public. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,


Richard J. Durbin Sheldon Whitehouse











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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:34 AM
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1. all the power to Senators Durbin and Whitehouse
Glenn Fine and Marshall Jarrett, are going to jump right to it :sarcasm:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:39 AM
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7. Durbin will run like a kicked dog at the first sign of resistance.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:23 AM
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16. The Dick Durbin was the one who ran out on to the Capitol steps to apologize for calling torture
. . . torture and saying Gitmo had something to do with Nazism or something.

The Dick Durbin was kneeling on the ground licking the bottoms of the shoes of the GOP right out there for all the world to see. They were practically waiting in line.

So instead of standing strong and in so doing encouraging others to speak up, he helped the conspiracy of silence decades.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:36 AM
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2. KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK!
I am calling today. Whitehouse and Durbin will know this is what We want.

Demand a Special Prosecutor. The DoJ won't touch it, Pelosi won't allow Impeachment.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:05 AM
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18. kick kick kick kick kick kick nt.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 09:40 AM
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3. wake me if this goes anywhere other than into a shredder
the freaking hearings they should be having is the impeachment ones...

oop, I forgot

-- we don't have the votes
-- not enough time
-- have to keep the powder dry
-- voters won't stand for it
-- dog ate the paperwork
-- insurance won't cover implants for balls and spines

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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:39 AM
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8. Good post. If I had read yours first, I wouldn't have posted mine.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:33 AM
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4. kick
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:51 AM
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19. "
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 10:33 AM
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5. k&r
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:37 AM
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6. I'm fatigued by the plethora of "calls for investigations",brave
letters from Senators and Congressmen to the Administration, threats of subpoenas and various other
toothless efforts by our Democrats. Not ONE of the numerous grandiose calls has resulted in any progress that I'm aware of.

So, that might as well investigate the steroid issue. They don't have anything else to do except await their next orders from Bush, the war criminal.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 11:42 AM
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9. Preparing for the Impeachment? Starting to look like it! Conyers too is adding to the chorus
of inquiries, his new one on Illegal Wiretapping.

Conyers to White House: We Need to Know More about Wiretapping
By Paul Kiel - February 12, 2008, 3:55PM - http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/conyers_to_white_house_we_need.php

Signaling the fight ahead when lawmakers get together to sort out the differences between the Senate and House surveillance bills, House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) wrote White House counsel Fred Fielding today to deliver two messages: 1) from what he's seen of the documents relating to the administration's warrantless wiretapping program, there's no reason to grant the telecoms retroactive immunity (he prefers the term "amnesty"), and 2) Congress needs to know more before it can be expected to consider granting that amnesty.

The administration suddenly gave Conyers, along with a limited number of members of his committee and the full House intelligence committee, access to documents relating to the program late last month. It was obviously part of the administration's drive to secure immunity for the telecoms. But Conyers says that hasn't worked for him: ....
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:51 PM
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13. Can we kick the football this time?
I'm doubtful. When the 2-year-reps seal their incumbency deals they'll fold too, given historical evidence.

However, I have been wondering about a rumor describing the hidden impeachment blocker. Perhaps a campaign setback is allowing important National issues to inch forward?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:59 PM
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10. WOW, Whitehouse was just on c-span 2
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:01 PM
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11. I'm going to kick this because I'm an optimist.
:kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 03:10 PM
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12. Enough fugging hearings
Time to impeach these bastards.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:48 AM
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14. YES >>>> Time to impeach these bastards.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:18 AM
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15. Another strongly worded letter ?
SCORE:
  • Letters, hearings, investigations = 15
  • Convictions, Impeachments or Other Legal Proceedings = 00
  • Hope for actually doing something = NONE
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:59 AM
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21. But you have forgotten the most important part of all the letters.
Increasing the risk of Bush receiving a paper cut. That'll teach him!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 10:36 AM
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17. I nearly yacked with that supreme schmuck, Scalia, suggested some torture is ok.
What the hell is ANY active service supreme court justice doing publicly commenting on what may be a case before SCOTUS? He should be removed.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:56 AM
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20. This is my best guess on how they will try to wiggle out of this.
You don't have to have White House authorization to use torture. You just need White House authorization to tell people that you have used torture.
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:33 AM
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22. Who are the real architects?
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 10:46 AM by sattahipdeep
SEN. ROCKEFELLER: Senator Whitehouse.
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-RI): Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
Chairman.
Just to follow up a little bit on Senator Feinstein's questions,
General Hayden, is it -- I just want to give you a chance to review your
testimony here that those who conduct the interrogations are not 100 percent
contract employees and are actually a mix of contract and CIA employees.

GEN. HAYDEN: In the history -- sorry. Senator, if you're looking
for a specific example or specific place, I'd have to check the facts, but in
the history of the program the interrogators that I'm aware of have been a
mix of contract and government.
....
SEN. WHITEHOUSE: Does that apply -- how about if you narrow the
program to waterboarding?
....
GEN. HAYDEN: I -- the real answer is, I don't know. I'd have to
check, Senator. SEN. WHITEHOUSE: Okay. I think that helps clarify.

http://www.dni.gov/testimonies/20080205_transcript.pdf

WHITEHOUSE....Ask BLACK Total Intelligence Solutions.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:28 PM
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23. I guess the TV Media 'News' programs have other priorities
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