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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:06 PM
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BBC News: Danish Muhammad cartoon reprinted
Danish newspapers have reprinted one of several caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad which sparked violent protests across the Muslim world two years ago.
They say they wanted to show their commitment to freedom of speech after an alleged plot to kill one of the cartoonists behind the drawings.

Three suspects were held in Denmark on Tuesday "to prevent a murder linked to terrorism", officials said.

The cartoons were originally published by Jyllands-Posten in September 2005.

Danish embassies were attacked around the world and dozens died in riots that followed.

The editors say no-one should feel their life is threatened because of a drawing.

"We are doing this to document what is at stake in this case, and to unambiguously back and support the freedom of speech that we as a newspaper will always defend," Berlingske Tidende said.

The cartoon was also broadcast on national television, and even newspapers that were originally against the publication of the caricatures are now backing the campaign to defend freedom of speech, the BBC's Thomas Buch-Andersen in Copenhagen says.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7242258.stm

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:33 PM
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1. Good.
And tell these religious nuts to STFU!
We are not going to comply to your archaic old world standards. The same goes for any religious fundamentalists.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:38 PM
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2. Amen to that... n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:39 PM
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3. Should they reprint this too?


Just curious.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:15 PM
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4. You're missing the point.
A cartoon author shouldn't have to fear for his life because the cartoon caused offense. Nor is it acceptable for offended people to violently protest.

Theo van Gogh was murdered because he made a movie that offended some fanatics. This shit has got to stop and shutting down criticism of Islam won't make it better (nor is it the way a free society operates).

There are many ways to peacefully register a complaint and enact change if bigotry is present. Trying to intimidate people through violence is not the way to go.

We don't pander to the tender feelings of Christian zealots, so why make an exception for the Muslim variety? Perhaps if that cartoon is reprinted enough, those fanatics will finally realize what a folly it is to murder or riot over something so trivial.

I don't have anything against Islam or Muslims, but I have no love for fanatics that try to impose their religion and/or try to intimidate others into submission. Don't like criticism of your religion? Too fucking bad.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 07:15 PM
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5. You're dodging the question.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 08:22 PM
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6. Bornagin, I think I see the difference between theirs and your picture
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 08:33 PM by Lost-in-FL
The cartoons and your picture shows the face of intolerance in two different ways. Yours negatively against two ethnic groups just for the sake of offending those groups and the Danish cartoons are an attempt to show those who are intolerant that they are not going to be accepted in their society (that they need to get used to it if they want to live in their country). That is just the way I see it.

The only thing is that Danish cartoonists showed a degree of gross cultural ignorance when they portrayed Mohammed face which according to Islam is prohibited. That was what provoked the riots across the Islamic communities of the world. Those pictures that you are showing are as offensive to us as how offensive it is for Muslims to see a drawing of Mohammed. The difference is that you won't see Jews or Africans and/or their descendants killing others over it.

I hope I didn't just put my foot in my mouth.

Edit to answer question,

No, they shouldn't be reprinted theirs or the one you are showing. I really don't understand why they reprinted them really. Stupid move. Why risk the lives of others to get your point across?



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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 AM
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7. Bullshit.
The cartoon portrayed mohammed as a terrorist which is just spreading the old stereotype of muslims as terrorists. It's the same kind of cartoon.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 07:25 PM
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11. Fair enough
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 07:52 PM by Lost-in-FL
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:31 AM
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9. Islamic law doesn't apply outside of Islamic theocracies.


Just as I treasure my right to violate Christian doctrine, I'm also attached to my right to violate Islamic "law".


Too bad so many muslims have trouble understanding the concept that THEIR religious doctrine does not and should not apply to non-muslims...


Same could be said for US Christians who keep trying to foist their dogma on the rest of us...
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:28 AM
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8. How are racist caricatures the same as caricatures that critique a religion?
Or militant factions of that religion?

Is it that you think Islam is above criticism?

Because I would differ there.

Or is it that you think secular people should be forced to follow Islamic law and not depict the historical figure Mohammed in pictures


I would differ there too.


Your picture clearly implies that ALL blacks and Jews are like vermin.


The pictures in question limit their critique to terrrorists, not all Muslims.

It's not the same.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:14 PM
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10. Distasteful. But nobody should have to die
if it was printed.

Just like nobody will die because you posted it.

That cartoon is disgusting. Also, it's culturally informative, in a strange ugly way.

:hi:
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