Edmonds, Plame, Brewster Jennings. The whole sickening mess.

[TheMadMonk]

I'm reading the many many discussions on this subject, and I find myself asking a question.

• I'm looking at the sheer number of people implicated in this transfer of US nuclear technical data.
  
• I'm looking at the number of Administrations, Congresses and Senates that have presided over the time period of this data transfer.
  
• I'm looking at how carefully investigatory bodies have avoided asking questions at all, or at best nibbling at the very periphery of the matter, investigating only the least of the crimes imvolved.
  
  
• I'm thinking this is just to bloody big to be someone or even many someones lining their pockets for simple financial gain.

The question I am asking is:
What if this is a deliberate policy embraced by leaders on both sides of the aisle to keep the United States supplied with the enemies it needs to justify the Military Industrial Complex that it needs to maintain its global supremacy?

That that same MI complex and the Oil industry which depends quite heavily on the USA's military might are the corporate players with their hooks deepest into both parties only makes this idea more credible.

[AntiFascist]

1. Look up Operation Gladio....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio#Allegations

Gladio has been accused of trying to influence policies through the means of "false flag" operations: a 2000 Italian Parliamentary Commission report from the Olive Tree left-wing coalition concluded that the strategy of tension used by Gladio had been supported by the United States to "stop the PCI (Italian Communist Party), and to a certain degree also the PSI (Italian Socialist Party), from reaching executive power in the country".

Propaganda Due (aka P2), a quasi-freemasonic organization, whose existence was discovered in 1981, was said closely linked to Gladio.

Notice that 'P2' may also be implicated in some of the internet research involving the Niger documents scandal involving the falsification of evidence leading to the Iraq invasion.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/22/7563/12283

On July 4, 2005 the news broke that the Genoan police had arrested two leaders of a Neo-Fascist, unofficial, self-proclaimed "anti-terrorist" network operating parallel to SISMI in Italy. The group recruited police and intelligence agents to their cause. Saya and Sindoca created the Department of Strategic Anti-Terrorism Studies (DSSA), which reportedly had ties to the Bush administration as well as Isreal. One of the two leaders - Gaetano Saya - affirms he is a member of P-2 (Propaganda Due) on the DSSA website. A website which also
says:

The evil which has descended upon us finds in men like George Bush in America and Gaetano Saya in Italy an impregnable bulwark: God-fearing men, harded and pure individuals who, enlightend by God, have descended into the valley of the shadow of death to defend the Judeo-Christian faith and the West. The righteousness which these men represent will defeat the anti-Christ. God is on their side.

Also, a somewhat related neo-fascist organization called the Grey Wolves exists in Turkey, which has been linked to the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II (who once said that Christianity and Communism may have something in common), the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano, and CIA-connected arms for drugs trading in Bulgaria.

I believe that the bottom line in the Middle East is that, left to their own devices, oil resources would become nationalized and many on the Far Right would then fear that socialism would take root. With their Judeo-Christian 'god' on their side, they would defeat this threat by whatever means are necessary, even if preemptively.

God help us!

[mmonk]

2. Yes, the Middle East

and the former states of the Soviet Union in Central Asia is what our leaders and the multi-nationals want to control. Terrorism is used as a destabilizing factor for governments that exhibit independence.

[blm]

9. Global terrorism thrived as Global Fascists intended when they were funding it

throughout the last 3 decades.

[seemslikeadream]

10. ..

[Supersedeas]

8. interesting

[Marblehead]

3. part of the shock doctrine

where would they be without it..

[eridani]

4. Yep. Like having the monopoly on both the poison and the antidote markets

Nice work if you can get it.

[mojowork_n]

5. Related discussion at this D.U. thread, with a couple of other links

Nuclear technology, crime, Sibel Edmonds, the Turkish Deep State:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2860234

[AntiFascist]

6. kick

:kick:

[blm]

7. This is WHY I stick to reminding Dems what BCCI was/is all about. The Fascist agenda

is contained in that report and so are the players.

It's a shame so many Dems even are too incurious to read the report themselves but slam as whackos those of us who took our duties as citizens seriously and FOLLOWED THE MONEY.