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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 02:19 PM
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Scary parallels! Corporations, Hitler...Bush Agenda
I was looking at KPetes thread about Halliburton, KBR and "ENDGAME" plans and decided to look up Hitler. What I found was an interesting, but frightening article titled, "The truth about Hitlers Rise to Power"


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As with 911 and Pearl Harbor, the Reichstag fire enabled the the government to inflame the masses, to justify taking away their freedoms, and to justify war. From then on, the Communists were blamed for just about anything that went on. Still to this day it is not known exactly who started the Reichstag fire. But one thing is known, Hitler knew that the fire would work to his advantage. After word had got out that all Communists had been captured, Communism practically ceased to exist in Germany. The public now feared the Communists and entrusted themselves in Hitler. They thought that the country was under attack by dangerous extremists. In such an emergency situation they would be more likely to support the government, and at the time, the Nazis were the government. Hitler now had the nation exactly where he wanted it.
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Wall Street financed the German cartels in the mid-1920's which in turn proceeded to bring Hitler to power. The financing for Hitler and his S.S. street thugs came in part from affiliates or subsidiaries of U.S. firms, including Henry Ford in 1922, payments by I.G. Farben and General Electric in 1933, followed by the Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiary payments to Heinrich Himmler up to 1944. US multi-nationals under the control of Wall Street profited handsomely from Hitler's military construction program in the 1930's and at least until 1942. These same international bankers used political influence in the U.S. to cover up their wartime collaboration and to do this, infiltrated the U.S. Control Commission for Germany.
The plans for WWI German reparations were formulated by Wall Streeters, temporarily wearing the hats of statesmen, and these loans generated a rain of profits for these international bankers. Owen Young of General Electric, Hjalmar Schacht, A. Voegler, and others intimately connected with Hitler's accession to power had earlier been the negotiation for the US and German sides, respectively. Three Wall Street houses - Dillon, Read; Harris, Forbes; and, National City Company - handled three-quarters of the reparations loans used to create the German cartel system, including the dominant I.G. Farben and Vereinigte Stahlwerke, which together produced 95 percent of the explosives for the Nazi side in World War II.

The directors of American I.G. (Farben) were prominent American businessmen: Walter Teagle, a close Roosevelt associate and backer and an NRA administrator; banker Paul Warburg (his brother Max Warburg was on the board of I.G. Farben in Germany); and Edsel Ford. Farben contributed 400,000 RM directly to Schacht and Hess for use in the crucial 1933 elections and Farben was subsequently in the forefront of military development in Nazi Germany.

A donation of 60,000 RM was made to Hitler by German General Electric (A.E.G.), which had four directors and a 25-30 percent interest held by the U.S. General Electric parent company. This role was described in Chapter Three, and we found that Gerard Swope, an originator of Roosevelt's New Deal (its National Recovery Administration segment), together with Owen Young of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and Clark Minor of International General Electric, were the dominant Wall Streeters in A.E.G. and the most significant single influence.

The International Telephone and Telegraph Company, one of the more notorious multi-nationals, worked both sides of World War II through Baron Kurt von Schroder, of the Schroder banking group. I.T.T. also held a 28-percent interest in Focke-Wolfe aircraft, which manufactured excellent German fighter planes. We also found that Texaco (Texas Oil Company) was involved in Nazi endeavors through German attorney Westrick, but dropped its chairman of the board Rieber when these endeavors were publicized.

Henry Ford was an early (1922) Hitler backer and Edsel Ford continued the family tradition in 1942 by encouraging French Ford to profit from arming the German Wehrmacht. Subsequently, these Ford-produced vehicles were used against American soldiers as they landed in France in 1944. For his early recognition of, and timely assistance to, the Nazis, Henry Ford received a Nazi medal in 1938. The records of French Ford suggest Ford Motor received kid glove treatment from the Nazis after 1940.

So who financed Adolf Hitler? you can indict Wall Street, and a group of international bankers and businessmen. There were several Roosevelt associates, including Teagle of Standard Oil, the Warburg family, and Gerard Swope, and Putzi Hanfstaengl, another Roosevelt friend and a participant in the Reichstag fire. A book was suppressed in 1934 called the "myth of 'Sidney Warburg." . The book accused the Rockefellers, the Warburgs, and the major oil companies of financing Hitler. While the name "Sidney Warburg" was no doubt an invention, the extraordinary fact remains that the argument is the suppressed "Sidney Warburg" book is remarkably close to the evidence presented now. We must examine the roles of the Morgan and Chase Banks in World War II, specifically their collaboration with the Nazis in France while a major war was raging.


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Hitler was unique in his ability to control people's emotions with his his oratory. He was used by the globalists of his time to create war and wealth for themselves, and destruction and death for everyone else. These same criminals are hard at work today. The forces that put Hitler into power, and made WWII happen, are now using international terrorism to achive their goals. History is a great teacher, but sadly, the mind numbed masses of today don't seem to be listening.


Full Report: http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/HITLER.html

So I ask myself who and what is the "myth of Sidney Warburg"? It seems he had an inside look at the backing of Hitler. The book is available on Amazon


I don't know what Bush & Co. have planned for all the KBR prisons. I don't know why the FBI is deputizing business people with orders to "shoot to kill".
I don't know why Bush would say our constitution is,"just a dod-damned piece of paper". I don't know why the media is not pursuing the http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/24/935_lies_and_counting_study_counts">935 lies (and counting) preceding the Iraq invasion, rather they report on baseball and steroid use! I don't know why our Democratic leaders continue to give Bush and Co. a free pass to continue this insanity.

Actually, I have a pretty good guess, I did learn 2+2=4. I really don't know when this INSANITY will end. I do know that the corporate powers must be put in check. I do know that the powers that be, have forgotten what an innovative leader America is, however the have chosen to stifle our growth and continue down a destructive path, if the parallels are true. We have a need for a completely new "green industry" that will only create more innovations and industry. My only hope is this election. I want to also appauld Dennis Kucinich for all of his efforts to impeach.




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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 02:27 PM
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1. Pity Kick cause I think it's important.. :-)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 02:33 PM
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2. It is important, lisainmilo.
It is very, very, very important.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:09 AM
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3. Link here for FBI deputizing business (broken in OP)
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:32 AM
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4. K&R
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:41 AM
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5. I think it's too late- I think we've "crossed the rubicon," so to speak.
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 02:42 AM by BeHereNow
"the corporate powers must be put in check."

They have kept the people distracted with shit that doesnt' matter.
Abortion, gay marriage, Britney and athlete steroid scandals.
The people fell for it instead of paying attention
to what DOES matter, thus no awareness, no meaningful opposition.
I really think we are FUCKED at this point.

BHN
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:46 AM
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6. that is what my husband says
They have become too POWERFUL....scares me to see what is happening.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:01 AM
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9. You're not alone. I'm scared too.
Your husband is right- never has SO much power
been amassed in so few hands, globally and technologically.
Doesn't mean I'll go down with a whimper, but the fact is,
we have NO representation to speak of and no way to
level the playing field at this point.
BTW, have I mentioned that I'm mad as hell?
BHN

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:51 AM
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8. But I like the blue pill and the fact that the story ends.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:04 AM
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10. LOL. Speaking of pills...
I was telling my husband tonight that I think I need
some to sleep. Being aware of all that is happening
can cause one to wake repeatedly over the course of
the night. Pisses me off because I used to sleep like a
baby. I don't think I've slept a whole night through
since 12/12/2000, you know the official date of the coup.
BHN
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:20 AM
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14. Well, the gruel we've been feed on this ship
is not good for sleep.

I do get hyped on good intelligent discussions
that reaffirm what I have seen.

The Matrix is real in a way, my son, when the movie came out
and took me to it, said:

"Dad, this is our star wars"..........

I didn't get the metaphor at that time
but I was not awoken to the conciseness of ther Matrix
around me when the movie first came out.

Now is the time for the return of the Jedi,
but at my age, I feel like an old Obi Wan vs a Neo.

We need the Neo.




:) :rofl:.......... sleep well my friend, it is difficult
the older you get, no matter
the time period.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:26 AM
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15. Having a 21 year old daughter hasn't helped...
I don't know what I was thinking!
Some how I imagined once she was launched into
the world, my parenting worries would ease-
they have only worsened!
:hug:
You sleep well too-
I'm on my way to go pick up the daughter-
She went to hear a band and wanted to be
able to drink, so I'm the designated driver pick up...
BHN
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:54 AM
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17. I think it's too late too.
We are in serious trouble, yet way too many people around here are talking about hope like they've been drinking Kool Aid nonstop.

I don't see hope, not one drop of it.

Oh sure, I had a glimmer of hope with Gore, then with Edwards, but it's gone, long gone.

I'm glad there are people still here on DU like you BeHereNow and the OP of this thread, who are brave enough to point out just how far gone things really are in this country.

I want the truth.

Not some audaciously hyped up B.S. about hope.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:39 PM
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22. Swilling kool aid isn't just for the "right" you know...
It's an equal opportunity past time, as made evident
in GD-P.

AS IF, ANYone pushed by the corporate owned MSM,
backed by the masters of war and even ALLOWED to
participate in the charade that is our government
is going to "save" us... uh-huh.


I don't know how brave I am, just realistic.
I'm glad you're here too btw...:hug:

BHN
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:47 AM
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7. Keep going -- here's a link that might pop your eyes open
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Funny how this Family is involved in the blackest shit you can find.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:05 AM
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11. very interesting link...looks like some holocaust survivors tried to sue Bush.
In your link, (and BTW thank you) the article claims Bush is being sued by 2 holocaust survivors. Did you catch that?

The two Holocaust survivors suing the US government and the Bush family for a total of $40bn in compensation claim both materially benefited from Auschwitz slave labour during the second world war.

Kurt Julius Goldstein, 87, and Peter Gingold, 85, began a class action in America in 2001, but the case was thrown out by Judge Rosemary Collier on the grounds that the government cannot be held liable under the principle of "state sovereignty".

Jan Lissmann, one of the lawyers for the survivors, said: "President Bush withdrew President Bill Clinton's signature from the treaty not only to protect Americans, but also to protect himself and his family."

Lissmann argues that genocide-related cases are covered by international law, which does hold governments accountable for their actions. He claims the ruling was invalid as no hearing took place.

In their claims, Mr Goldstein and Mr Gingold, honorary chairman of the League of Anti-fascists, suggest the Americans were aware of what was happening at Auschwitz and should have bombed the camp.

The lawyers also filed a motion in The Hague asking for an opinion on whether state sovereignty is a valid reason for refusing to hear their case. A ruling is expected within a month.

The petition to The Hague states: "From April 1944 on, the American Air Force could have destroyed the camp with air raids, as well as the railway bridges and railway lines from Hungary to Auschwitz. The murder of about 400,000 Hungarian Holocaust victims could have been prevented."

The case is built around a January 22 1944 executive order signed by President Franklin Roosevelt calling on the government to take all measures to rescue the European Jews. The lawyers claim the order was ignored because of pressure brought by a group of big American companies, including BBH, where Prescott Bush was a director.

Lissmann said: "If we have a positive ruling from the court it will cause Bush huge problems and make him personally liable to pay compensation."

The US government and the Bush family deny all the claims against them.

In addition to Eva Schweitzer's book, two other books are about to be published that raise the subject of Prescott Bush's business history. The author of the second book, to be published next year, John Loftus, is a former US attorney who prosecuted Nazi war criminals in the 70s. Now living in St Petersburg, Florida and earning his living as a security commentator for Fox News and ABC radio, Loftus is working on a novel which uses some of the material he has uncovered on Bush. Loftus stressed that what Prescott Bush was involved in was just what many other American and British businessmen were doing at the time.

"You can't blame Bush for what his grandfather did any more than you can blame Jack Kennedy for what his father did - bought Nazi stocks - but what is important is the cover-up, how it could have gone on so successfully for half a century, and does that have implications for us today?" he said.

"This was the mechanism by which Hitler was funded to come to power, this was the mechanism by which the Third Reich's defence industry was re-armed, this was the mechanism by which Nazi profits were repatriated back to the American owners, this was the mechanism by which investigations into the financial laundering of the Third Reich were blunted," said Loftus, who is vice-chairman of the Holocaust Museum in St Petersburg.

"The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

"There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany."

Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening in Germany at the time. "My take on him was that he was a not terribly successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis any more than they cared about their investments with the Bolsheviks."

What is also at issue is how much money Bush made from his involvement. His supporters suggest that he had one token share. Loftus disputes this, citing sources in "the banking and intelligence communities" and suggesting that the Bush family, through George Herbert Walker and Prescott, got $1.5m out of the involvement. There is, however, no paper trail to this sum.

The third person going into print on the subject is John Buchanan, 54, a Miami-based magazine journalist who started examining the files while working on a screenplay. Last year, Buchanan published his findings in the venerable but small-circulation New Hampshire Gazette under the headline "Documents in National Archives Prove George Bush's Grandfather Traded With the Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor". He expands on this in his book to be published next month - Fixing America: Breaking the Stranglehold of Corporate Rule, Big Media and the Religious Right.

In the article, Buchanan, who has worked mainly in the trade and music press with a spell as a muckraking reporter in Miami, claimed that "the essential facts have appeared on the internet and in relatively obscure books but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes".

Buchanan suffers from hypermania, a form of manic depression, and when he found himself rebuffed in his initial efforts to interest the media, he responded with a series of threats against the journalists and media outlets that had spurned him. The threats, contained in e-mails, suggested that he would expose the journalists as "traitors to the truth".

Unsurprisingly, he soon had difficulty getting his calls returned. Most seriously, he faced aggravated stalking charges in Miami, in connection with a man with whom he had fallen out over the best way to publicise his findings. The charges were dropped last month.

Biography


Buchanan said he regretted his behaviour had damaged his credibility but his main aim was to secure publicity for the story. Both Loftus and Schweitzer say Buchanan has come up with previously undisclosed documentation.

The Bush family have largely responded with no comment to any reference to Prescott Bush. Brown Brothers Harriman also declined to comment.

The Bush family recently approved a flattering biography of Prescott Bush entitled Duty, Honour, Country by Mickey Herskowitz. The publishers, Rutledge Hill Press, promised the book would "deal honestly with Prescott Bush's alleged business relationships with Nazi industrialists and other accusations".

In fact, the allegations are dealt with in less than two pages. The book refers to the Herald-Tribune story by saying that "a person of less established ethics would have panicked ... Bush and his partners at Brown Brothers Harriman informed the government regulators that the account, opened in the late 1930s, was 'an unpaid courtesy for a client' ... Prescott Bush acted quickly and openly on behalf of the firm, served well by a reputation that had never been compromised. He made available all records and all documents. Viewed six decades later in the era of serial corporate scandals and shattered careers, he received what can be viewed as the ultimate clean bill."

The Prescott Bush story has been condemned by both conservatives and some liberals as having nothing to do with the current president. It has also been suggested that Prescott Bush had little to do with Averill Harriman and that the two men opposed each other politically.

However, documents from the Harriman papers include a flattering wartime profile of Harriman in the New York Journal American and next to it in the files is a letter to the financial editor of that paper from Prescott Bush congratulating the paper for running the profile. He added that Harriman's "performance and his whole attitude has been a source of inspiration and pride to his partners and his friends".

The Anti-Defamation League in the US is supportive of Prescott Bush and the Bush family. In a statement last year they said that "rumours about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated ... Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathiser."

However, one of the country's oldest Jewish publications, the Jewish Advocate, has aired the controversy in detail.

More than 60 years after Prescott Bush came briefly under scrutiny at the time of a faraway war, his grandson is facing a different kind of scrutiny but one underpinned by the same perception that, for some people, war can be a profitable business.



I don't know with KBR prisons and now deputized FBI business....Scary Shit!











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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:09 AM
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12. This is why I sometimes wonder if
Bush and Cabal are really going to just walk away from all this come January 20, 2009.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:11 AM
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13. those aren't "scary."
they're inevitable. they're the same people.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:51 AM
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16. Hitler comparisons
make DU look dumb.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 04:57 AM
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18. No, your ignorance makes you look dumb. nt
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:47 AM
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19. Maybe he/she is in the "first stage" of realization
thanks for sticking up for me. :)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:01 PM
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20. No, it's trolling behavior that I've seen before from him.
I'm getting really sick of it-hence the lashing out.

Your OP and those like it deserve much more respect than that! :hi:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:33 PM
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21. WHAT????
Monkeyfunk showing up throwing insults around???

No, it just isn't possible!!!!!!!!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Heh-heh
BHN
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:49 PM
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23. Standard Oil is now ExxonMobil
and guess which huge oil corporation is raking in the biggest profits? The Bush family has done a great deal to make sure Exxon's profits keep skyrocketing.


And General Electric, also mentioned in the story, owns MSNBC, mouthpiece of corporate media.


Same old players.
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