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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:10 PM
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Waterboarding is ALREADY illegal.
Defined by the Nuremberg findings to be a prosecutable War Crime as a form of torture.

The US Constitution holds that treaties and legal findings ratified by the US Congress have the force of US LAW.

The practice is therefore TORTURE, a prosecutable WAR CRIME, and we have agreed to this finding.

THEREFORE, the PRESIDENT, the VICE PRESIDENT, and ANY MILITARY OFFICER or OFFICIAL OF THE GOVERNMENT required to swear to uphold the Constitution as part of their holding office is guilty of a PROSECUTABLE WAR CRIME, and by the statutes of the Constitution MUST be held to have committed "High Crimes" and MUST be impeached and removed from office.

(This is Tyler waiting for Hell to freeze over.)
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:15 PM
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1. Yep, I was wondering why Congress felt that they need to pass a bill...
stating that Waterboarding is illegal. :banghead:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:25 PM
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2. It's to let the war criminals involved worm their way out.
The argument goes like this:

If waterboarding was illegal when we did it, then Congress wouldn't have needed to make it illegal.
If waterboarding wasn't legal when we did it, then why did Congress move to make it illegal?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:25 PM
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3. Did you know there is a "waterboarding" display in the Museum of the Killing Fields?
The Khmer Rouge employed it regularly, due to the low level of long term physical damage. Don't want to ruin the field workers, doncha know.


Three of the water-based tortures employed by the Khmer Rouge at Tuol Sleng prison, Phnom Penh Cambodia.
http://flickr.com/photos/waterboardingdotorg/2158848632/in/set-72157603405288553/
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:43 PM
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4. Maybe we can borrow their waterboard.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:47 PM
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5. Off to the greatest pages.
Thanks for the thread, Tyler Durden.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 03:54 PM
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6. So, we were FOR torture before we were against it?
Or were we against it,. then for it, then against it?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 04:10 PM
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7. K&R
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 04:15 PM
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8. Exactly. We are either a country of laws or a country of men.
If we ignore lawbreaking (torture ferchrissakes!) among our leaders we are not fit to be citizens of a republic.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 09:11 PM
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9. "Waterboarding is ALREADY illegal."
Waterboarding is ALREADY illegal.

Defined by the Nuremberg findings to be a prosecutable War Crime as a form of torture.

The US Constitution holds that treaties and legal findings ratified by the US Congress have the force of US LAW.

The practice is therefore TORTURE, a prosecutable WAR CRIME, and we have agreed to this finding.

THEREFORE, the PRESIDENT, the VICE PRESIDENT, and ANY MILITARY OFFICER or OFFICIAL OF THE GOVERNMENT required to swear to uphold the Constitution as part of their holding office is guilty of a PROSECUTABLE WAR CRIME, and by the statutes of the Constitution MUST be held to have committed "High Crimes" and MUST be impeached and removed from office.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2865095
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