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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:31 AM
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We Are The United States Of America NOT 'Homeland'
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

That is all

:hi:

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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:32 AM
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1. Agreed!
"Homeland" is such a fascist term.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:32 AM
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2. i heard bu$h* refer to america as the homeland....wasn't there a german leader who did the same?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:33 AM
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3. I _loathe_ that term.
It's WAY too close to "fatherland," "motherland" and allegiance to some big, nebulous and nationalistic "thing" as defined by the "haves" and "higher ups" for my comfort. Blind nationalism leaves little room for "we the people."

Recommended.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:49 PM
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25. I do, too, from the first time I heard it used by this fascist regime.
All these years later, it still rankles.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:35 AM
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4. please report to room 101
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:35 AM
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5. God, I fucking hope they get rid of that term!


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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:37 AM
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6. It's all party of the Bush plan for
Their "New World Order"! Remember daddy Bush talked about that a lot when he was in office, and JR. is carrying on the family tradition! They don't want a "democracy" but want a country ran by a "council" of rich businessmen who will "dictate" things that will benefit the rich, and keep the poor from ever getting out of the rut they are in.

They use the term "homeland" like Hitler did, to gain support for their wars, invasions of other countries, and to try and rally the people of this country to "fight" to defend the "homeland" even when they are fighting in the Middle East, not in our own country!

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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:46 AM
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7. Why is my state Green and located as an island south of California?
I wish we were a tropical island, but alas it just be ignorance or laziness on some folks part to not position my state were it belongs..
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:52 AM
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8. We're Moving It There
Haliburton got a no bid contract to move both Alaska and Hawaii to get them closer. It makes the "homeland" easier to protect.
The Professor
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:18 PM
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11. Hooray ~ I'm digging out my bikini right away..
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:01 PM
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21. OMG -- now it's not just red and blue states
They're dividing us by time zones!1!11!1 Henceforth I will nothing good to say about those folks in EST. They just try to jump ahead of everyone else! :D
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:54 AM
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9. Agreed! Homeland has a very Nazi-esque connotation to it, doesn't it?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:59 AM
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10. Yes it is and DUers who don't understand that are in for a VERY rude awakening! nt
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:37 PM
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15. People just dont seem to get the underlying danger of this administration.
We are dealing with a group of full-fledged psychos running our government. They will stomp over anybody and everybody to get what they want - money and unchecked power.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:50 PM
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16. Meanwhile people over in GD-P are talking about "hope". I call it hype.
The corruption is so deep and pervasive, people can't even see how corrupt their own candidates are. :wow:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:02 PM
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22. Yup.
The words "hope" and "change" have been floated around so much the last few months that they have lost all meaning.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:31 PM
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30. I have a hard time feeling any hope about someone who is OWNED by corporations.
Hope and change are just meaningless words when you consider the source.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:19 PM
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12. Where did you come from Parche?
I like you more and more every day!
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:30 PM
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13. Where are the recommendations for this thread????
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:35 PM
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14. Here's one.
They sure do like playing with words,don't they?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:51 PM
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17. It's not just playing with words. It's playing with lives.
It's like the War On Drugs; in reality, it's the War On People. By positioning our country as the "homeland," the Puppet Theatre Masters distract us all from its various wars on "strangers."
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:50 PM
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26. K&R
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:53 PM
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18. I'm waiting for our home grown Nazis to one of these days
make a slip of the tongue and call it either Der Vaterland or Der Reichland in public.

:rofl:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:58 PM
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19. Republicans want to think that they are more patriotic
but they just do it in cornier ways.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 12:59 PM
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20. The USA has never been a "homeland"
Until these nazi-imitating jerks came along.
I hate nazis...
and fascists too for that matter.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:07 PM
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23. The term "Homeland Security" makes me wanna puke...
:puke:

Total BS. It's just a way to try to legitimize the violation of people's civil rights, based on profiling. The Patriot Act is a big part of that. And FEMA is under that big umbrella. The creation of that department was (and is) one big joke. If you've got too many logs in the fire, the place just might burn to the ground, KWIM?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:14 PM
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24. Homeland implies conquest, expansionism and empire
It implies territories held under occupation. It is the phrase of a belligerent government with no regard for peace, democracy or international law.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:56 PM
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27. Hauptland, Vaterland, was ist der Unterschied?
Wirklich. :shrug:

Good post and I agree. They've framed and we've bought it.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 01:58 PM
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28. The Repukes are following Hitlers playbook. Fatherland, Homeland
and I'm surprised they haven't started taking political prisoners ye...oh...they have. :(

I hate fascists.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:47 PM
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32. Vaterland, Heimat. Heimatsicherheit.
Papieren, bitte!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:00 PM
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29. Democrats should change the name to ''Campus Security'' so they don't get too big for their britches
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 02:38 PM
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31. I don't live in the "Homeland".
reposting..

I don't live in the "Homeland".
Posted by SoCalDem in General Discussion
Tue Jul 17th 2007, 10:36 AM
I don't live in the "Motherland"
I don't live in the "Fatherland"

I live in a state
My state is part of the UNITED states
My country is the sum of its parts

Until recently, when my country was spoken of by its leaders, it was called OUR COUNTRY..or THE UNITED STATES...or just AMERICA.

The re-naming of our country is just another exclusionary tactic to further isolate us .

Who qualifies as a "homelander". Are those of us who were born here MORE homelanderiffic than those who came here from a different "homeland" of their birth?

It always reminds me of how subjective the term "home" is.

People often speak of their "hometown". For some it's the town they were born in, for some it's the town of their childhood, for some it's the town they settle in to raise their own families, and for some it's whatever town they are in at any given time.

If an immigrant is from Quito, Ecuador, and resettles in Concord , Massachusetts, which one will they claim as their "hometown"?

It's OUR choice..

Our dear president loves to claim Midland or Crawford or Austin as his "hometowns" (carefully omitting any reference to his true north eastern roots).

I resent the linguistic gymnastics of recent years, every time one of our "leaders" refers to "the homeland" or "our homeland".

Do they mean all of us? some of us? which ones? the ones who voted for them? the ones who were born here? the ones who chose this place over a former "homeland"? the white ones? the brown ones?

Is OUR "homeland" anymore "special" than anyone else's homeland? Is Iraq a "homeland"? Is China? Is Iran?

EARTH is the ultimate homeland, and the people who so casually toss words around like frisbees, seem to care very little about IT, so why should we trust their so-called devotion to this one place among so many?


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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:21 PM
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33. Anyone else remember when it was called the Heartland?
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 03:22 PM by hootinholler
I like that, kind of shows empathy.

-Hoot
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:05 AM
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34. Domestic security
Q: Why did they stop using domestic as an adjective.

A: Because they are a bunch of fascist mobsters.
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