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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 07:59 PM
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Al Gore on the second ballot-By Eleanor Clift
Posted Friday, February 15, 2008 3:38 PM
Al Gore to the Rescue?
Andrew Romano

Stumper's Take: He foresaw global warming. He "took the initiative" on the Internet. And he knew exactly how Iraq would turn out. Who's to say that Al Gore hasn't known all along that the Democratic race would descend into some weird state of gridlock--and that only he, the Goreacle, could rescue the party from civil war? Read on for the what if's...


By Eleanor Clift


Al Gore on the second ballot: A scenario that a few weeks ago seemed preposterous is beginning to look plausible to some nervous Democrats looking for a way out of the deadlock between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. It goes like this: We love them both, but neither is a sure bet when it comes to electability. It's not about gender and race, each has more mundane vulnerabilities. Hillary's negatives will drive white men to John McCain; Obama's inexperience will require a gut check on the part of voters. What if the super delegates decide not to decide, denying either candidate the requisite number of delegates to secure the party's nomination. Democrats want to win. The new rallying cry: Gore on the second ballot.

The last time a political convention went to a second ballot was 1952, but this is a year with so many twists and turns that nothing is impossible. Gore would be tempted on so many levels. He would only have to endure two months of campaigning, not long enough for voters to remember what they didn't like about him eight years ago. Gore has sat out the primary process, refusing to offer even so much as a hint of where his sentiments lie. Years of playing second-fiddle to Hillary in the White House no doubt precluded his endorsement for her. Surely he would happily take Obama as his running mate, ending the Clinton dynasty and positioning the Democrats for a potential 16-year reign at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. A Gore-Obama ticket would be unstoppable, the thinking goes, matching the presumptive Republican nominee, McCain, on national security and experience, while embodying a powerful message of change.

more at:
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/02/15/al-gore-to-the-rescue.aspx
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:01 PM
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1. Wooot!
Edited on Fri Feb-15-08 08:03 PM by Texas Explorer




I made the above image nearly a year ago. I'd still love to see it happen.

16 Years, Baby!

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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:50 PM
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25. No BO, no way no how..
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:39 PM
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80. Gore/Edwards would save the day and the nation.
But things are so screwed up, i now don't wish this Presidency on my worst enemy.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:02 PM
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2. From your lips to God's ears....
Oh, please...
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:04 PM
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3. I'd be solidly behind that
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:08 PM
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4. Interesting. I could support Gore
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:14 PM
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5. What voters didn't like about him eight years ago?
Those things that caused more of them to vote for him than for Bush?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:04 PM
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60. I saw that and thought the same thing.
There needs to be an education among the pundidiots.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:05 PM
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67. lieberman. nt
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:15 PM
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6. I hope she is right - nothing is impossible this year.
It would be great to have Gore be the nominee.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:16 PM
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7. We might be heading towards a very unhappy national convention
Whether it's Clinton or Obama, a lot of people are going to be upset. Even though it's not strictly democratic, a compromise candate might be the best way out for the party. And as Gore was the nominee 8 years ago, it isn't like he would be some unknown and unsupported entity being foisted on us through some back room deal.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:56 PM
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44. Um... YEAH. It's not like he's never been "vetted by the voters".
He WON in 2000. Popular vote. A MAJORITY of the popular vote (and once Florida was properly and completely recounted, he'd won there, too). He won with Bill Clinton TWICE. He's not a newbie, he's not a wild card, he's not untested, he's not an unknown.

So far I've had to make a head-over-heart decision in this election year. My heart says Hillary (because I'm one of MANY women who YEARNS to see a woman president), and my head says Barack because strategically I think he'd be better and more compelling - and all the republi-CONS who wouldn't ever vote for Hillary because of their own insane and inexplicable hard-ons about her wouldn't have a pot to piss in if it were Obama instead. Hell, even the devil-spawn frank luntz admits "I don't know how to beat this guy" referring to Obama. You KNOW he's got a HUGE bag of tricks and leftover anti-Bill rehashes to haul back out against Hillary.

My heart, AND my head, AND my whole being - it's ALL still for Al Gore.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:06 PM
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53. Before the 2000 election
I voted and tried to keep up with politics, but it wasn't the same. Before the 2000 hijacking, I didn't participate on political message boards, I didn't contribute significant (for me, at least) amounts of money to political campaigns, I didn't volunteer at the local Democratic club to canvass neighborhoods, I didn't hand out political flyers on street corners and at flea markets and the like, I didn't go to Meet-Up events for Democratic candidates, I didn't tune in to message boards on a constant basis to find out what latest political scandal was breaking, I didn't feel daily outrage. That all changed for me when Al Gore and all of us were disenfranchised by the Supreme Court. The slap in the face is still painfully fresh. And I'm sure I'm not alone.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:53 PM
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76. You are absolutely NOT alone!
I don't presume to speak for everybody here, but I think it's a safe bet to say most of us feel EXACTLY like you do, and reacted in the same or similar ways.

It's NEVER been the same since that election was stolen. NEVER. I will NEVER feel the same again about bush, cheney, james baker, sandra day o'connor, or ANY of the radical republi-CONS. OR that mob that was pounding on the doors and windows trying to intimidate people counting votes inside. Because if you check the details (where the GOP DEVILS are) you'll see that every last one of 'em in that mob was some republi-CON congressman's staffer or go-fer or party activist/agitator. EVERY ONE of them. This was no outraged band of "common-folk citizens." NOT ONE of them was a non-combatant. A DUer here - and forgive me, I don't remember who it is - had that photo in every post - complete with identification of every member of that mob. Hopefully someone will post it.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:19 PM
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8. I've been nervous to post this, but it's been on my mind. The perfect solution.
Justice, peace, and some real solutions. We are facing a heap of trouble ahead - we're in a hell of a hole to get out of. Al Gore understands the depth and breadth and scope of these economic, environmental, foreign policy disasters.

He is The One.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:58 PM
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26. Gore's ok, but Hillary is a better people person. She's pleasant,
and has that gift of looking at ease that Gore just doesn't. He always looks very uncomforable. I think if he could have been more out going and relaxed he might have appealed to more people. I was a Gore supporter and still have my Xmas card from Gore family.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:24 PM
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39. pleasant?
:rofl:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:29 PM
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40. lol!
Pleasant??? That is freakin HILLarious!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #39
61. yea that's very funny
relaxed???? not from where I sit.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #26
49. Um, here's a clue - half the country thinks she's an opportunistic b*tch.
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:47 PM
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64. Pleasant , gift of looking at ease-is that the test of a leader?
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:53 PM
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66. hey!!
I'M pleasant, I can look "at ease", I'm out going, I'm relaxed..and people like me!
where do I apply?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:59 PM
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82. GMAO!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:24 PM
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9. Al Gore #44
The perfect scenario
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:26 PM
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10. I will fully support a Gore candidacy.
I will also work for him and send money just as I did some eight years back.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:27 PM
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11. It's not gonna happen
the only problem this year is that we have TWO very strong candidates. It would be suicidal to pick someone who didn't run, who has no money, and who has no campaign organization in place.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:52 PM
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17. The two candidates could help make it easier
If there's a complete deadlock at the convention and the two candidates decide to cooperate in doing what's good for the party, they could lend Gore their entire organizations and all of the campaign money they have left. And raising additional money wouldn't be a big problem for Gore, I think, not in this Internet day and age and if both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama campaign with Gore and appeal to their lists of donors to chip in. But I think it would require extraordinary cooperation on their parts.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:03 PM
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19. No
If the problem is caused by having two candidates that are both strong, picking a third one would be stupid. We have about 8-9 weeks after the convention to run a national campaign. We don't have time to build a national organization, even IF both candidates donated their resources. A lot of their workers are dedicated to their candidate - not to Al Gore.

It's just not going to happen. Our nominee will be Clinton or Obama. Clift just ran out of things to write about this week.

LOTS of Democrats would sit out if somebody who got zero votes got the nomination.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:21 PM
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21. Lots of Democrats would sit out if Gore were nominated?
I don't think so. And I'm sure he would catch fire if both Obama and Clinton supported him and campaigned with him. Their money and campaign organization is the key. To suggest that Clinton's and Obama's campaign workers would not get behind him is a very bizarre notion to me. The danger you seem to ignore is the fact that either Clinton or Obama will have only 8 or 9 weeks to mend fences and repair their image with the voters and supporters of the other camp. What seems like acrimony now will be ten times worse if we have a very divided convention.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:25 PM
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22. millions would feel that the party
fucked them over, regardless of their respect for Gore.

Donors would be pissed. Activists would be pissed. The notion that Gore would just magically unify everybody is a DU dream.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:30 PM
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23. It may come down to what pisses people off the least
Something tells me that a whole lot of people will be pissed no matter how this thing turns out.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:24 PM
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62. Most of the current Clinton/Obama supporters, I know
were collecting signatures for Gore's name to be on the ballot here in CA. Why would donors be pissed? Many kept their checkbooks partially closed until they knew Gore wasn't in the primary race. Gore is a unifier. I still believe he is the only person who can heal the rift caused by the supremes in 2000. He was cheated out of his role in our country's history.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:10 PM
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69. Just can't agree with you
Both are strong within the party, but neither is strong outside of it. There is a very good chance that neither is electable because they don't appeal to very many independents and each of them alienates about half of the Dems.

Gore is the obvious best solution. He is far more popular now than he was when he won in 2000.

Gore has plenty of money, the party has plenty of money and more would roll in rapidly.

There is no need to have a long campaign to raise his name recognition or people's understanding of his issues because he has been out there for years working on important matters. He's been vetted over and over. There are no surprises in his closet.

The organization can be developed easily because it is the party organization. Some volunteers for Hillary or Barack might not volunteer for Gore, but most would because they are Dem volunteers and he would be the Dem nominee. There would be many people like me who do not support either Hillary or Barack, but would enthusiastically come out to work for Gore.

Not many would sit out the election if someone they had previously nominated got the nomination again, especially since the Hillary supporters would be so relieved that Barack didn't get it and the Barack supporters would be so relieved that Hillary didn't get it. Plus, seriously, with a choice between Gore and McCain, who could really be indifferent?

I don't know if this will happen, but I fervently hope it does. I believe that it would not only be the best thing for the party, but also the best thing for the country and the earth.

My dream ticket: Gore and Anybody.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:46 PM
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100. ...and guess what?
You wanna be 'refreshed' on where he stands on the issues?

http://current.com/people/algore

Gee. Isn't that convienent!!!:evilgrin:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:46 PM
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43. ... along with reverting to our own old white guy, after a campaign season ...
... that has inspired millions with the possibility of breaking the white guy barrier, as a side benefit.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #43
70. Oh come on
Do you really think the nominee's race and gender are more important than other qualifications? Not for me.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:20 AM
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89. "as a side benefit"
No, qualifications are paramount. But both our remaining candidates are qualified, and eminently better suited for the office than the likely Republican nominee. That being said, opting to bypass both of the current Democratic candidates for some white guy would have huge repercussions in November.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:20 AM
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90. You're right.
As much as I've supported Gore in the past, the time for this has passed.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:43 PM
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99. Has no money???
You're kidding, right?

The man could run several months of a campaign without ever even asking for donations, should he want to. Without blinking - much.

No money.:rofl:
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #11
103. Yeah, that Nobel Peace Prize, the Emmy, the Oscar - he wouldn't have a shot.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:28 PM
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12. I've been thinking along these lines
Gore would be a surprise, one that the GOP hasn't planned for much. They have already started the lies about the other two--Gore is still above the fray, and has been getting really good press.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:29 PM
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13. This is a fantasy
I love Eleanor Clift, but there is no reality-based evidence that Gore would entertain this daydream.

Gore has said repeatedly that he is no longer interested in running for any elective office.

It's just not going to happen.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:31 PM
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14. Lovely fantasy though
I would love it to come true.
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Florida22ndDistrict Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:58 AM
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38. ...
Actually he has stated that he has not ruled out running for office. He has mentioned that he has no plans to run this election cycle, but if he saw a sign that he should run he would. When he was interviewed on the Charlie Rose show on PBS about his latest book he echoed this notion.

While it may be unlikely that he would do this, this scenario would be far more preferable an outcome in my eyes then either of the current likely outcomes. As far as peoples concern about the vote of the electorate, well many DUers don't have a problem with disregarding the Florida and Michigan vote do they? I've already lost my vote this election cycle, but I did sign the draft gore petition, so if he is drafted at the convention I would be willing to let it slide. He is a man of substance and experience. I for one would welcome this turn of events with a smile.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:49 PM
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101. No, he has not said that.
He has said he has no plans to run.
When asked about what office he would ever consider, he said the only one he would be interested in is the office of President.
Larry King interview last year (check Gore group for links)
Interview before the Nobel Prize was awarded in Oslo (also linked in Gore group).
The language is very specific,and for a reason. He has also said that he would not rule it out for all time.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:15 PM
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104. Well, if it goes to a second ballot, um, it WILL happen.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:42 PM
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15. Guaranteed if there is a reality check after the first ballot, only way to win in November!
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:43 PM
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16. Out of all of the AMAZING threads you have started here, kpete,
this iS by far my FAVORITE!!!!
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:35 PM
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24. DITTO!!! nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. I concur
VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY!

Please let it happen. Please let it happen. Please let it happen. Please let it happen. Please let it happen. Please let it happen.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 08:53 PM
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18. I love the way she thinks!!!!
President Gore for President!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:06 PM
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27. Yeah, I think that's the intangible that is so much in Gore's favor.
By now, most people know that that election was stolen. They may not have caught up with the how's and wherefore's of 2004. We're reduced to word-of-mouth communication, pretty much these days (plus our new "Committees of Correspondence"--the internet) on the important issues that the war profiteering corporate "news" monopolies don't want us to know about. So it takes TIME for people to get informed, for the word to spread. And it has spread far and wide on Gore '00.

So it would be in the nature of a Restoration--return of the rightful leader. And he was neither wish-washy on the war (he was dead against it), nor is he Bill or Hillary Clinton (closely associated in peoples' minds with NAFTA, jobs losses, the "bubble" economy--AND the fascist right being able to cripple a Democratic president). He did, however, serve in the most recent Democratic administration, for eight years--and has the gravitas of having served for extended periods in both the executive and legislative branches of government, and having come out of the experience a wiser and very focused man. He has it both ways. He is associated with Bill Clinton's success, but is not especially tainted with Clinton negatives.

He has MANY positives--including a greatly improved speaking style (his speeches over the last few years have been electric--on fire). He came out early and was very focused on critical issues like torture. (His speech on torture will make your jaw drop, it is so right on. You'll wonder what the hell's wrong with everybody ELSE in our political establishment!) And he has A PLAN--a positive vision for converting the U.S. to a "green" economy. That is something I find critically lacking in all other candidates. What are we going to do NOW--now that the Bush Junta, and corporate war profiteers, have looted our treasuries, and sent jobs and manufacturing abroad? What are we going to do NOW--with global warming gotten so far along, after two decades of utter neglect and corporate resistance to change? We are facing multiple crises--of unprecedented magnitude--and NONE of the field of candidates presented any coherent vision of how to organize our response to these crises, and how to motivate people and focus our energies in a positive way. Kucinich came closest, with his notion of organizing government policy around PEACE--but he got nowhere, probably because the (war profiteering) corporate media hated him. Edwards was second to focus down on what the country is all about, and how to organize it--but his ideas were incomplete, and the media ended up hating him, too, because he, like Kucinich, said some very challenging things about corporate power, but without a context of positive economic movement and motivation.

Gore, on the other hand, has been out of the fray, and able to develop comprehensive ideas for economic renewal. The corporations who don't want to play will be out in the cold. Retro. A big drag on the rest of us. Obama has the essence of that positive momentum that is needed--the charisma, the strong desire of the young for CHANGE--but not the substance. Gore has the substance.

It's difficult to picture Obama as commander in chief. It is not difficult to picture Gore that way. He has the looks, the voice, the ambiance and the substance to play that role. I'm not enamored of the "commander in chief" thing--especially after Bush has made such a cruel mockery of it. And I rather like the idea of a CIVILIAN-LOOKING president--restoring the notion of civilian control--especially rather than a fake codpiece, chickenhawk "commander." But I can't ignore what most Americans would be comforted to see--someone who LOOKS LIKE he is in control of the military (not to mention the military contractors). A "commanding" presence. Obama looks frail. And that may be completely irrelevant to who he is--his strength (both psychological and physical). But images do affect people, and they do sway votes. Make him presidential understudy--in training for the role. VP. He will surely grow in experience and image.

Gore/Obama is close to being the perfect ticket. Experience and youthful enthusiasm. Gravitas/substance and longing for change. And it doesn't exactly reject the Clintons. Gore was Clinton's VP--for eight years. But it sets them aside for something new--and something desperately needed: change WITH A PLAN.

One more thing: Gore, having been VP, will likely use a VP well, and not exclude him, and not treat him as a rival. With his overall vision for a "green" conversion of the economy, his passion for it, and his practical and strategic thinking about it, he will want to use all available talent, and especially the talent of Obama in inspiring the next generation. Obama would not be just an appendage to the campaign--added for political reasons--or an appendage to the administration, then shunted aside. He would have a central role. Would he in an H. Clinton administration? I think not. Hillary is simply not as enlightened as Al Gore, is my gut feeling anyway. There is little enticement for Obama to yield and be a Clinton VP. He would surely be shunted aside--and all his supporters--especially the many anti-Iraq War supporters--with him. Gore wouldn't do that, in my estimation. There is a lot of enticement there, for Obama to agree to be VP.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:31 PM
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73. You make an important point here
Actually, you make several important points, but what really struck me was your evaluation of the possibility of an Obama VP slot. I could not imagine either Clinton or Obama agreeing to be VP for the other. I really could not imagine Clinton agreeing to be Gore's VP. But I could surely see Obama agreeing to be Gore's VP. Gore has such an extensive resume and such a wealth of wisdom and experience that Obama would in no way see it as demeaning to be VP to such a man. And, it would be Obama's best path to the presidency, gaining experience as a strong VP.

That makes it click for me how this can happen. If the super delegates are objective, they will see that it would be bad for the party for either of these two to be nominated. It may cost us the election and would definitely cost us any kind of mandate. So, the super delegates sit out the first ballot. Then they go to Gore and get him to agree to be nominated. I believe he would agree because he would see that it is best for the country, among other reasons. The second step is to go to Obama and present the scenario to him. He agrees, because after all, a young one-term senator with a promising future would be happy to serve as a strong VP in the administration of an incredibly talented president elected in a landslide. Obama directs his delegates to vote for Gore and that's it. Clinton need not even throw her delegates to Gore for him to achieve a majority. Some of her delegates would vote for Gore on the second ballot regardless of what she directed them to do anyway.

Then, two months of campaigning and a landslide victory for Gore in November.
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 PM
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20. I just sent you my last heart for posting this!
I've had the strong feeling that there's been another democratic candidate "non-running" all along...the scenarios presented in this article are similar to my own predictions (that usually cause laughter). He'd have my support.
Thanks for posting.
:hi:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 10:21 PM
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28. I'm hoping for something like that,
except my hopes don't include Obama or Hillary on the ticket. ;)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:09 PM
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30. Oh...Eleanor...why do this? It's torture to us who wan't a third choice...
It ain't gonna happen....but I'm still hoping that Obama and Hillary go to a deadlocked Convention. It would be good for the party. We need to change some of the rules our party has enforced on us.

LET IT ALL COME OUT! But...it hurts too bad to think of Gore....much as I and some others would so want him. The Obama/Hillary would tear the Party in two...and Gore wouldn't do that... sad...sad
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:33 PM
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31. She's gotta sell couches and Bose sound systems, just like any other journo.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:41 PM
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32. Don't toy with me! -- also, why would Al put himself through that again?
I love the guy -- I don't want to see him suffer. He has his mission now, and it's single-focus, unlike a presidency.

Hekate

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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:35 PM
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75. No, it's not single focus
He cares about many important issues. Are you aware of his book, "Assault on Reason"? Have you seen his videos posted at Current?

Being President is the best way to restore the constitution, among other things.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:12 PM
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86. I agree, Seems some just don't want to have to work themselves for that 'change.'
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 11:55 PM
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33. Oh please let it be so!
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:28 AM
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34. :o
To be honest, I sort of had a hunch all along, but to see this idea actually getting press at this stage is really exciting to me!!!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:34 AM
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35. I knew there was a reason I never changed my avatar.
O8)

Now here's the KILLER DILLER TICKET OF ALL TIME:




:woohoo:
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:41 AM
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36. Holy Crap YES!
This is what we need.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:16 AM
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37. Gore, yes; Obama, no. that wouldn't solve anything. nt
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:30 PM
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41. I'm not saying this is necessarily the case, but...
something tells me this whole scenario has been preplanned into the cards for some time now. A sort of the party paying Gore back for the stolen election which he rightly won by allowing him to skip the primary process and inserting him as nominee. Something about the Gore's knowing coyness in the months leading up to the primaries. Since I'd consider these events to be fairly unlikely just independently, whether or not this actually comes to pass will go a long way toward telling me whether or not it was actually preplanned or not (which, while I adore Gore, I'd have mixed feelings about (sort of anti-democratic, is it not?)).
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:07 PM
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46. I am now PRAYING for this to happen!
Only Gore can save the Democrats now.

:patriot:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:42 PM
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42. New York Times Today
This is interesting from the Times today. Coincidental timing?

Democrats Look for Way to Avoid Convention Rift
By DON VAN NATTA Jr. and JO BECKER

Former Vice President Al Gore and a number of other senior Democrats plan to remain neutral for now in the presidential race in part to keep open the option to broker a peaceful resolution to what they fear could be a bitterly divided convention, party officials and aides said Friday.

Democratic Party officials said that in the past week Mr. Gore and other leading Democrats had held private talks as worry mounted that the close race between Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton could be decided by a group of 795 party insiders known as superdelegates.

The signs that party elders are weighing whether and how to intervene reflects the extraordinary nature of the contest now and the concern among some Democrats that they not risk an internal battle that could harm the party in the general election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/us/politics/16delegates.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1203187170-3dR5Y2V7QtVn6OMJDQrTrQ
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:40 PM
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81. Al Gore 2008!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:59 PM
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45. Al Gore wins in the end, justice would be served.
This would be theater on such a grand scale the MSM=Corporate Media would be speechless and might even treat him fairly this time around.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:43 PM
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50. Yeah. Where do I get the last seven years of my life back?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:10 PM
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55. Great sig line! nt
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:15 PM
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92. ;)
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:15 PM
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47. Please let it be so!
With Edwards as co-pilot!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:03 PM
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52. I used to have dreams
... the kind that were of a different nature: I MUST be getting old since that ticket takes precedence, over all others.:evilgrin:
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:16 PM
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56. Oh my!
:evilgrin:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:20 PM
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48. My wildest dreams would come true, and my most ardent prayers answered.
The right man for the job with the world in turmoil and the "earth in the balance."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:53 PM
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51. Gore/Obama GO 2008!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:09 PM
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54. Gore, yes, but not with Obama or Clinton as VP, as that will

cause more division. They can each run again in 2012 or 2016.

Give them each a Cabinet post, if they want one, and select someone else as VP. Maybe Edwards or Biden? Maybe another black man, like Charlie Rangel or John Lewis? Or another woman, like Barbara Boxer, or a black woman like Maxine Waters?
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:23 PM
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57. Joy of Joys
Dream of Dreams
Bush handing over the palace keys to the rightful owner, and the campaign signs will be Reelect President Gore.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:27 PM
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58. Oh give it up. How is that possible?
I am all for Gore, but he didn't run.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:03 PM
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106. If you read the article linked to, it explains how it is possible. n/t
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:53 PM
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59. this would be heaven
this would truly be awesome. i like him better than Obama OR Hillary. I wanted him to run from day one, since 2005 after the 04 disaster. he has both substance and experience, carries on the good parts of the Clinton legacy but without letting it go bush/clinton/bush/clinton. but when was the last time we actually drafted a nominee?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:29 PM
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63. I would like to see that
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:52 PM
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65. Could not ask for more.
Al Gore!! If only....
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:06 PM
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68. I've always wanted Gore over Obama. I'd take either of them on the ticket.
With Hillary, I'd hold my nose.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:27 PM
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71. Not a bad plan except that it leaves Hillary as the loser.
If Gore's the nominee, neither BO or Hillary should be VP.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:29 PM
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72. Nah. . .Gore's deafening silence changed my wish. . .
. . .Gore had his chance, God only knows how much we pleaded, in 2007 to come to the rescue as a late entry.

NOW, all I wish is a Gore endorsement for Obama. Then, Obama can pick with whom he fits best. . . one possibility is my other wish. . .VP Wesley K. Clark. . .THEN, McCain would sink like a rock.

Plus, this Eleanor Clift, I don't trust. . .she's a framer of issues. . .for someone who stands to gain from starting a rumor that takes the wind out of Obama's "momentum sails." Clift and her mind-games! Let the people's voting unfold. . .she should just play her prophecy games with her Washington-insiders over lunch. . .that's how much I value her prognostications!

So. . .

Obama family of supporters, keep your sails full as you tack into the primaries ahead

. . .then by June, how 'bout this ticket:

OBAMA / CLARK 2008




:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:33 PM
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74. Yep. Al Gore. Unbeatable in the GE. Let's do it. n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:10 PM
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85. yeah, who gives a damn about what he wants.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:00 PM
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77. I would swear off swearing if this happens!
I would even promise to be nice.
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:16 PM
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78. How about Gore-Edwards?
N/t
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:35 PM
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79. too good to be true
but what a NICE dream. DAMN that would be nice. justice at last...
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:20 PM
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83. From your keyboard to the Goddess' ears ...
O8)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:08 PM
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84. He has already stated he does not want a brokered convention
A brokered convention would only show the demcoratic party as weak and fractured, and whoever would come in to take it from the ones who worked to get there regardless of whether we support them or not and the voters who voted for them would not be seen in exactly a good light or as a "unifier". It might actually wind up doing much more harm than good, and Mr. Gore is too honorable a man to do that. If he truly wanted it HE WOULD BE RUNNING ALREADY. It is such a shame that people can only write the same thing that gets printed every four years instead of mentioning all the good work he is doing for the world now. But I guess people just aren't happy unless they have something unsubstantial to talk about. Anyway, all of the primaries are not over yet. There are primaries scheduled until June... so perhaps FINALLY the states at the end will actually have a reason to vote and will have a say in this process. Nothing wrong with that. So I don't even understand why this is even being discussed in February.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:17 AM
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88. Of course you don't understand
But we do.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:56 AM
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91. I still love that sig picture!
:hug:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:51 PM
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105. Victor Juhasz's illustration
has given me a wee bit of hope (and sanity) throughout the campaign.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:29 PM
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96. Oh I understand you. You have nothing better to do.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 11:20 PM
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87. That is very, very plausible.
And it makes sense for Dems to do this on so many levels.
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ProgRockMom Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:17 PM
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93. Keep Hope Alive!
Gore and Edwards would be a dream come true, but more imaginable, Gore and Obama...I wish I could make myself believe that Al would do it again...thanks for the hit of hope!!
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:33 PM
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94. Darn tootin'!
Welcome to DU!

:hi: :loveya:
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ProgRockMom Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:41 PM
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95. Thanks!
Thanks, honey (this donkey is my husband -- not trying to be fresh!)

:loveya:
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:31 PM
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97. Gore stands so far above the others that it could actually happen
I can think of only two people with the personal and professional qualities along with the international support to get this country (this world!) on the right track. One is Bill Clinton and the other is Al Gore.

As accomplished as they are, the others just don't measure up.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:31 PM
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98. Gore seemed like the Second
Coming to me until he punctured my balloon last October when he finally said "NO" to his supporters and 'Draft Gore' workers. Eventually, with things evolving, Obama took on that same aura for me. Obama just seems so RIGHT for this time and place in history. Gore will be the perfect fit as the environmental leader of the world together and side by side with Obama. It looks more and more inevitable that it is going to be, all the way to the WH, for Obama.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:50 PM
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102. saved by the white established politician? Hmmm...will that go over well?
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JD Dude64 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:10 PM
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107. Gore's making way too much money
Come on people! Gore is now on the board of directors at Google, he's now worth well over $100 million because of this stupid lie he's telling the world. Why in the world would he want the headaches associated with being president? He doesn't give a rat's ass about our country, only his bank account. It's sad that so many are fooled by this guy, I'm sure you're good decent people, but you're following a snake oil salesman of the highest degree.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:37 PM
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108. I'm sure you're a good decent person as well, but you're truly clueless.
I suppose you would support Rush Limbaugh for President?

Oh yeah and welcome to D.U.:hi:
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JD Dude64 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:24 PM
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109. Re: Clueless
Not at all, I think Limbaugh is a total pig, just the sound of his voice makes me cringe. I won't be voting Democrat or Republican, because I don't think there's a shred of difference between the two. 2 questions about Gore: 1) Why didn't he ram Kyoto through when he and Clinton were in the White House? Democrats had the presidency, house and senate, yet it was never ratified (Just like universal health care). Has global warming only become a threat since he left office? 2) He single handedly destroyed the manufacturing sector in this country by his fast talking snow job of Nafta when he crushed Ross Perot on the Larry King debate. I'll probably be kicked off this site soon, but firmly believe Gore is the biggest fraud in this country.

Oh and incidentally my theory on Limbaugh is that he wants more than anything for Hillary to win. His ratings have plummeted in the last couple of years because his legions of idiots are finally starting to see through his 3 hour fecal session every day. The one thing that could get him back on top again is to be able to bash Hillary every day for the next 8 years. Gore and Limbaugh are both elites in this country, and again it's sad that so many people blindly follow their bs.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:45 AM
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111. A few things to remember, regarding Kyoto
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 10:49 AM by Uncle Joe
The Republicans controlled the Congress after the first two years of the Clinton Administration, Kyoto didn't come along until later and I believe Al Gore tried his best, even Clinton was lukewarm about supporting it. Al Gore could only get one senator out of one hundred to support it, I believe that was the late Senator Wellstone. The corporate media didn't promote the idea of Global Warming as a threat until after the selection of 2000 and not seriously until after "An Inconvenient Truth" came out ultimately garnering Al Gore a Nobel Peace Prize for his attempts at educating the people despite staunch opposition from powerful energy corporations and misreporting on the subject by the corporate media, the same corporate media that ignored speeches Al Gore gave about the environment during the 2000 campaign. I believe they resented Al Gore because he empowered you, me and most everyone else when he championed opening up the Internet for the people, thereby threatening their monopoly on information or corporate media created Matrix, if you will.

The manufacturing sector had been in decline long before NAFTA as the world was catching up to us after our explosive growth and wealth which followed World War 2. His debate against Perot regarding Perot's hypocrisy was consistent with his stance against monopolies just as his championing opening up the Internet for the people was while in Congress and as Vice-President. In the first Al Gore was opposing monopolies on trade and in the second on information. Al Gore exposed Perot's own private NAFTA monopoly on national television and Perot was never the same political force after that debate, that didn't take fast talking, just the truth. For some reason Perot thought NAFTA was good enough for him, just not the rest of the American People. Al Gore was never in power after the first few days of 2000 to make any needed adjustments regarding NAFTA. In the final analysis the world is not voluntarily going back to post World War 2 days, when we totally ruled the roost.

Also if Al Gore was just an elite as you say, he would never have so strenously worked to enable the American People to have a voice around, over or through the corporate media via the Internet.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:45 PM
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112. I admire your patience n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:02 PM
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113. I'm a Capricorn and as such have been brainwashed since childhood
in to believing, I'm supposed to be patient.:)
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:08 PM
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114. Me, too, but you are better at it than I am
Maybe it's all the Sagitarius I have in so many other parts of my chart.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:51 AM
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110. Gore is the only candidate that my mother will support. She's already said that.
There would be a HUGE collective sigh of relief if this would come true but I'm not holding my breath for it....
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:10 PM
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115. This would never happen. But I gotta admit...
"Gore-Obama" has a nice ring to it.
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