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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:59 PM
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Deputy who dumped man from wheelchair booked into jail.
This is going to turn into an even uglier situation than it is now. I heard the lawyer for the deputy, perhaps the county..not sure..on local news yesterday. He was shocking.

He said we were going to find out so much more than that video showed, and he got a kind of smirk. The reporter said something like how much uglier can it get than dumping a man from his wheelchair. The reporter looked stunned at the lawyer's comments.

Deputy Taped Dumping Man From Wheelchair Turns Herself In

TAMPA, Fla. — A deputy who was videotaped dumping a paralyzed man out of his wheelchair onto a Tampa jailhouse floor turned herself in.

Jail records show Charlette Marshall-Jones was booked into the Orient Road Jail early Saturday morning.

It is the same jail where Marshall-Jones worked. She is accused of tipping 32-year-old Brian Sterner out of his wheelchair. A videotape of the incident has been widely circulated.

The Hillsborough County deputy was charged with one count of felony abuse of a disabled person and released after posting $3,500 bail. An attorney for Marshall-Jones listed in jail records did not immediately return a phone message.


The lawyer for the deputy kept implying that the man in the wheelchair might be considered at fault. The wheelchair victim is lawyered up also, and I can say from seeing the deputy's lawyer....the quadraplegic is in for a big battle.

I guess anything goes now.

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:02 PM
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1. Bravo!!!!!
See a tear???? Hardly! I hope to hell she pays dearly for the asshole stunt she pulled. There simply is NO excuse for what she did!

:applause:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:09 PM
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2. Clearly, the man in the wheelchar dumped himself.
It is quite clear on the tape.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:13 PM
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3. Her lawyer sounds like a real slimebag nt.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:58 PM
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9. Not necessarily
Our system provides legal defense for even the guiltiest among us to make sure that the rules are obeyed in court and that cruel and unusual punishment is avoided. It's a fail safe system to provide lawyers for both sides.

Anyone who has worked with quads in a health care setting can figure out how this one went down. Quads are physically helpless but not defenseless. They become experts at pushing other people's buttons in order to get their needs met. The deputy simply lacked the proper training to handle this kind of emotional manipulation.

Let's hope their training improves. This won't be the last quad they have to deal with and the training will help them deal with other difficult types like borderline personalities.

The deputy will be convicted of physical assault, as she should be. Her lawyer will make sure the sentence isn't over the top.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:09 PM
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10. You say the man was pushing her buttons? Do you know or just assume?
Or do you have more knowledge?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:20 PM
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11. I've dealt with a lot of quads over the years
and I know the personality changes they go through in order to survive. I've watched it develop through initial injury through rehab and outpatient status.

I thought I made it clear I was making an educated guess instead of taking a shot in the dark.

However, it's clear some people believe the deputy in this case was a walking demon whose only purpose in life was to injure the defenseless.

Excuse me for trying to present another side to this. Yes, it was assault and should be punished as such. However, adequate training could have prevented the whole incident from happening.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:40 PM
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13. Read the article I posted below. I think they are going to shift blame.
It is quite possible they will in this area of Florida. Thanks for the explanation. But even if the disabled man was a real SOB, there is no scenario where that would be ok.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:03 PM
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17. Agreed, which is why I'm pretty confident she'll be convicted
of simple assault, at the very least.

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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:49 PM
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14. Adequate training? Are you for real? You can only give away what you got inside. You can't train
someone to be compassionate. You either have it, or you don't. There is absolutely no excuse for this type of behavior.

NONE
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:05 PM
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19. It's really easy to judge
when you haven't walked in those shoes.

Yes, adequate training would have helped. It would have given her the skills to brush aside the manipulation if she recognized it for what it was and why it was there. It would at least have afforded her enough skill to recognize what was really happening and walk away for five minutes to get herself under control.

Time outs are also effective for quads. It reminds them that they need to be a little less emotionally draining if they want their needs met.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:07 PM
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20. Oh good lord.
Yea, I haven't been in her shoes. I've never dumped anyone out of the wheelchair. Imagine that.
As for the guy's needs to be met, he was arrested for a traffic violation.
I can't figure out as to why it was necessary to even arrest him in a first place.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:57 PM
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16. Oh for crying out loud. Training?
Nowdays you need training to figure out you should not be throwing out disabled people out of their wheelchairs?
Jeez.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:07 PM
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21. No, training to recognize just what's going on and why
It's easy to judge when you haven't walked in somebody else's shoes, isn't it?

Sure, she's guilty of assault. Proper training would have prevented it.

I dealt with quads off and on for 25 years. I never threw one out of a wheelchair although I can say I've been tempted to. My own training helped me recognize what was going on. Too bad she didn't.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:13 PM
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22. No sentence is too severe for that pig. nt.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:22 PM
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23. Incredible.
"They become experts at pushing other people's buttons in order to get their needs met."


According to the reports, the officer told the man to stand up.
When the man replied "I can't," that was when she dumped him out of the wheelchair.

He replied that he wasn't able to get out of the chair, for obvious reason. Is that what you call pushing her buttons? How the hell can you tell someone in a wheelchair to stand up and expect them to comply?? And then calling it a provocation when the person is unable to comply? You're more disgusting than Johnny Cochran. I can't believe slimebags like you are given licenses to practice any kind of law.





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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:14 PM
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4. Next time you want a quadriplegic out of a wheel chair, use a tazer....
like all the other jack booted government thugs do.
:sarcasm:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:18 PM
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5. I don't care if the guy in the wheelchair
threatened to shoot her dog - she dumped him. It was stupid, mean, vicious and cold-hearted.

Of course her lawyer's gonna make it look like the guy "deserved it". It won't work.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:33 PM
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8. Yes.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:05 PM
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18. She could have seriously injured the guy, dumping him out
like that.
I mean, does someone seriously needs "training" not to dump people out of their wheel chairs? Shouldn't it be common sense?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:20 PM
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6. Oye
The lawyer for the deputy kept implying that the man in the wheelchair might be considered at fault. The wheelchair victim is lawyered up also, and I can say from seeing the deputy's lawyer....the quadraplegic is in for a big battle.



Yes, quadriplegic people can definitely be quite dangerous. She had to protect herself. :sarcasm:
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:24 PM
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7. I just gotta say
Kudos to the Tampa police for actually charging and booking the Deputy responsible for it. I didn't expect that.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:32 PM
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12. Her mother says "more than meets the eye"...
Here is a long article about her family and friends and their support. Right now though the issue is not the past, or what a nice person she was. I am a nice person, but if I dumped a disabled man from his wheelchair, I would pay a price. You can not use a defense of "more than meets the eye."

http://www.theledger.com/article/20080216/NEWS/802160415/1003/NEWS01

"TAMPA | As Alma Marshall packed for vacation Monday, video of a Hillsborough deputy tossing a quadriplegic from a wheelchair appeared on the6 p.m. news.

She stared at replays, twice. The deputy looked familiar. Too familiar. But the woman in the video couldn't possibly be the daughter she raised, she thought.

"I know my daughter well enough to know that there was more to it than meets the eye," Marshall said.


The judge is on her side, sounds like from this article.

"She was always appropriate," said Hillsborough Circuit Judge Barbara Fleischer. "She used humor to cajole people who otherwise were difficult to deal with. If anything, she calmed down situations that otherwise might have resulted in confrontation."


She had worked her way up to bailiff, and then asked to be transferred back to the jail.

Eventually, Marshall-Jones worked her way up to bailiff at the Tampa courthouse, where she earned the respect of her fellow bailiffs, judges and other members of the staff.

As a bailiff in Fleischer's courtroom, Marshall-Jones had frequent interaction with defendants.

"I never had any issue with anything related with her behavior," Fleischer said.

Courthouse employees remember being surprised when she requested a transfer back to the jail, a rare move for deputies who have secured a plum courthouse assignment.


After watching the lawyer in TV yesterday, I am getting a funny feeling in the pitt of my tummy. I am all for understanding, being the bleeding heart liberal I am....but something is not right here.




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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:55 PM
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15. It's painful to watch
that video. But in george bush's America, what can we expect? :cry:
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