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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:15 PM
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The truth about Tom Lantos isn't too pretty.....
The man appears to have been one cruel, cold bastard......


"Six years ago this May, Lantos was driving his car in Washington, D.C., and ran over the left foot of 13-year-old Owen Sanderson.

Sanderson and his eighth grade classmates from a school in Bolton, Mass., were crossing the plaza in front of the Capitol when the congressman drove over the boy's foot, sending him to the pavement screaming in pain, the boy and his teachers told the press.

Lantos then left the scene without getting out of his car to see whether the boy had been hurt.

As the Boston Globe described it, "While several horrified teachers and the principal shouted at Lantos to stop, the California Democrat sat rigidly, staring straight ahead and refusing to get out of his white Ford Taurus, which carried U.S. Congress plates."

"The first thing I heard was Owen screaming," said Ken Tucker, principal of the Worcester-area school. "Owen's foot was pinned under the car."

Lantos, 72 at the time, finally reversed slightly, freeing Owen's foot and ankle, and drove off without checking on his condition, said Tucker and several teachers.

Lantos said he had no idea the boy had been hurt. "I was driving to my office," he said. "There was a typical spring mob of tourists and kids and so on. … One of the kids, horsing around, not looking or something, jumped in front of the car, stumbled, then got up and walked away."

Owen's teachers and principal were dismayed at what they saw as insensitivity and arrogance by a government official, the Boston Globe reported.

"If he had stopped and spoken to us, we would have had a much different response to this," said Malin, the art teacher. "It's called human decency."

Youngsters "learn too often in life that if you have money and power, you're above the law," said Perkins, the school nurse. "That's not the way it's supposed to be."

The teachers, Tucker and the tour guide disputed Lantos' assertion that he did not know Owen was hurt. Lantos "was asked several times to get out of the car by myself and the teachers," Tucker said. "He was told, 'You hit a kid and you need to stop.'"

"He was trying to drive through a crowd of kids, was what he was doing. Why or how, I don't know," Tucker said. "He didn't roll down his window. He made no offer to get out of the car."

Laura Friend, an English teacher who was among those chaperoning the 68 students, said she raced toward the Taurus and screamed at Lantos through a half-open window.

"I was saying, `Stop, stop, stop! Back up, back up, back up!' He didn't look at me. He didn't even take his hands off the wheel or anything," Friend said.

When it appeared Lantos might not stop, Tucker said, he stepped in front of the car.

A Capitol Police officer twice told the principal to move out of the way or he would be arrested, Tucker and several teachers recounted. "The officer said, 'Look at his license plates.

He's a congressman. If we need to get in touch with him, we can find him if need be,'" Friend recalled.

The boy he hit said he did not harbor bad feelings toward Lantos or his wife, Annette, who was a passenger in the car.

But "it's disappointing that they didn't get out and say, 'Are you OK?' I just feel bad he didn't call to apologize."

Lantos paid a $25 fine after being issued a ticket for "failure to pay full time and attention," said Lt. Dan Nichols, spokesman for the Capitol Police, adding that the investigation was closed.

Which brings us back to the Capitol Police and Cynthia McKinney and her accusations of racism on its part. One wonders what would have been the fate of McKinney or any member of the Congressional Black Caucus had they run over the foot of a white child, congressional plates and all. "

http://www.counterpunch.org/blankfort04172006.html
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:16 PM
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1. How about a little grave-dancing?
From the wackos at Counterpunch, no less -- the Freepers of the left.
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:50 PM
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27. Funny.
I (usually) find counterpunch to be thoughtful and independent.

I also usually find DU to be very kneejerk and reactionary.

Who's more like the freepers?
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:52 PM
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29. Thanks for saying that. I thought it was just me n/t
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:45 PM
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45. Go hang out with counterpunch then n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:00 PM
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47. What is wrong with Counterpunch?
Because you don't like what they write?

So therefore you believe it is inapplicable?

The story is true.

Many times we might not like what happens in the world. However it is insight into the reality of what is factual, and how we might acknowledge our tendency to readily accept images of individuals, versus the reality of who they really were.

Or at the least, a more balanced perspective.

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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:19 AM
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50. You're right.
That wasn't a kneejerk response at all. :eyes:

Have you ever read any of the actual books put out by the people at Counterpunch, or does your attention span limit you to getting frothy at the mouth over a relatively short article?

But I'll continue to read both DU and Counterpunch, if I have your permission, that is.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:20 AM
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54. Radical chic is so, so, what's the word? Oh,yeah, 15 minutes ago. Spare me.
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 08:22 AM by blondeatlast
Why beat your head against a wall? You aren't convincing anyone with that attitude. But hey, thanks for visiting. :eyes:
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:59 AM
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55. You're welcome. n/t
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:16 PM
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2. His grave is still fresh.
You might be able to go dig him up and piss on him.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:39 PM
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20. why do you want to do that?
that seems sick? why not stay here and tell the truth?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:08 PM
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31. I'd expect nothing less from you.
Thank you for keeping it real.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:27 PM
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42. And we'd expect nothing less from you Ronnie.
I don't think the child expected his foot to be pinned under the foot of a Congressman's car who ignored the act he committed.

But that's okay with you.

You'd rather project blame/rudeness on those who choose to reveal the reality versus a sanitized version.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:18 PM
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3. well He's Dead Jim so i guess you win.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:21 PM
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4. I have to laugh at the replies. So now hes a saint???
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 07:24 PM by shance
You don't care that he ran over this child's foot and didn't even flinch when he knew good and well he committed the act.

He even backed up his car.

What if that had been your child?

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:23 PM
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5. Not one of the replies said he was a saint. Strawman much?
nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:23 PM
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6. No, it's just that the source isn't credible.
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 07:27 PM by ocelot
And I'd be interested to learn what other heinous things the guy did if he was really such an awful person. This incident sounds more like he panicked and froze, or had some kind of episode (he was old and unwell, after all), than that he evilly ran over some kid's foot and evilly refused to do anything. There is almost certainly much more to this story.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:25 PM
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9. plus mischaracterizing the replies is just lame
nt

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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:26 PM
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10. I agree
I am so sick of this Saint Lantos stuff; lest we forget what a hawk he was. I could never stomach the man. Why is it just because someone dies they never did any wrong.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:29 PM
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12. no one here said he "never did anything wrong"
why the need to mischaracterize in this way?


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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:46 PM
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23. they don't care that he was a key backer of the Iraq war that killed
hundreds of thousands. It's easier to mock Jesus here than it is to say that Lantos is anything other than a saint.
some strange excuse of "a human rights supporter".
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:49 PM
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25. Thank you Tom. I did not know that information.
n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:24 PM
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7. your post is repugnant
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 07:25 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:27 PM
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11. How dare you call me repugnant. You don't even know me.
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 07:28 PM by shance
You rude, unnecessary and repugnant message doesnt even bother to address the issue but instead resorts to infantile attacks.

What is repugnant is the act by Mr. Lantos.

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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:50 PM
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26. If Lantos did this, he is repugnant.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:51 PM
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28. I agree Roody.
Thanks for posting.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:09 PM
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32. Wait -- who's repugnant again? I can't get it straight.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:25 PM
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8. The kid wasn't hurt, he walked away, no broken bones. Get over it.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:29 PM
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13. You get over it. He ran over a childs foot,
but it wasnt' your child so apparently it doesn't matter.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:34 PM
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16. I guess I'm a (what did you call him? oh yes!) cruel cold bastard.
Did you want to tapdance on his grave while you're at it or were you just planning on using Silly String?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:38 PM
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19. i had a friend that pulled that trick all the time step out into a turning car, slap the side of the
car then fall down screaming, 'my foot, my foot, I'm go'n to go to collage, call my lawyer..!!.. then get up and walk away.. he did it all the time, i quit going anywhere with him because of it.

no limp... it was most probably a prank
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:43 PM
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21. The childs foot was stuck under the wheel. This wasn't a prank.
And more importantly even if it was a childish prank which it was NOT, it is the reaction or LACK thereof by Mr. Lantos that is chilling frankly.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:03 PM
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30. i need to things answered, in a cross walk.?? and how hid the kid get that close.?? in California i
quit driving down the streets where there were schools, groups of teanagers would deliberately walk in groups spreading into the street, there was a wide side walk, i would get boxed in by leering and laughing teenagers.. it was really scary, students had murdered other students there.

when it looked like they were going to box me in.. they would keep looking back to time spreading out to stop me and surround the car..i would get up pretty close and jam on the brakes of my mothers 70's Monte Carlo, the tires made a hellatiouslly loud screeching noise, they got out of the way, and i drove past, after that i just went the long way around..
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:44 PM
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39. How many of those scary teenagers have you hit?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:49 PM
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41. not nearly enough.. they were punk delequents, not warm and fuzzy at all
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:12 PM
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33. The original Globe article states that Lantos was waved forward by a Capitol police officer
The Globe also issued a "question of fact" response to his Wiki entry in 2006, apparently because the Internets had overblown the incident.

Questions of fact

February 12, 2006

Article: Representative Tom Lantos, Democrat of California

Wikipedia says: ''His most significant act related to transportation was when he ran over a teenager in the Capitol parking area and refused to stop despite screams from the crowd. He never apologized for the hit-and-run either."

In fact: According to a 2000 story in The Boston Globe, Lantos accidentally pinned the foot of a teenager under the tire of his car, backed off, then proceeded forward. He was not charged with hit-and-run, but fined $25 for ''failure to pay full time and attention."


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/12/questions_of_fact/

The Congressman was wrong on war twice and that should be remembered, but this piddling incident is hardly noteworthy.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:15 PM
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36. i think the point the article cited in the op is that while Lantos
got out of this with a small fine (smaller than a parking fine) McKinney faced a federal grand jury for her piddling incident.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:17 PM
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37. Right. n/t
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:12 PM
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35. yeah, unlike the thousands of Iraqi children who have died in a war Lantos supported
both in 1990 and again during Bush II. this ain't nothin...
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:43 AM
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52. I'm pretty sure "leaving the scene" of an accident is a crime, even if you *ARE* a Congressman.
He wasn't charged of course, because of our "Equal justice
under law unless you're someone important".

Tesha
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:30 PM
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14. do pedestrians have the right of way there.. just curious, in Texas they dont, the law clearly
that they dont.. and if they are in a "marked crosswalk", try to avoid them.. if his windows were up with the air conditioner he might not have heard them,

i personally look before i cross the street, and maintain awareness in the street about cars, how did the boy get that close,..? did it happen in a crosswalk.. there are a lot of questions on both sides of this.. i am just playing devils advocate. there are lots of variables here
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:33 PM
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15. The point is the teachers were screaming at Lantos to get out of the car
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 07:40 PM by shance
and he continued to look forward and ignore them.

It is the blatant disregard, along with the obvious realization he knew he could get away with it so it didnt matter. It is the height of abuse of privilege and power, in my opinion.

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. he may not have heard the tens of thousands of his constituents to
prevent a war on Iraq either. in that case, he must have been blind and deaf.
or just refusing to listen.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #14
38. Please turn in your drivers license before you hurt anyone else
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:35 PM
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17. this is nothing. His contempt for the rights of Palestinians was
despicable. His support for the war on Iraq was disgusting. this guy did not support everyone's "human rights"
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:43 PM
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22. I was waiting a bit to post this, but, he is on Sibel Edmond's Hall of Shame
as one of the corrupt politicians involved in the stuff she stumbled upon.

But I didn't want to be accused of "gravedancing" by posting it too soon.

But, since a door has been opened........
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:46 PM
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24. key backer of the Iraq war.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:09 PM
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48. I have a theory about that
Lantos was House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman. In October 2007, Adam Schiff introduced HRes 106 (The Armenian Genocide Resolution). Lantos had the power to quash that resolution.

Needless to say, the Turkish government was not happy and fought like mad to get HRes 106 killed. I believe many bribes were made by Turkish operatives in order to keep HRes 106 off the house floor. Fortunately, Lantos allowed it to be heard and it did pass the House. However, from a search a THOMAS it looks like the bill is still languishing in a Senate committee.

Maybe Turkish operatives tried (unsuccessfully) to bribe Lantos and that is why he appears in Sibel's gallery?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 08:12 PM
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34. Lantos: "In [Saddam's] place we'll install a pro-Western dictator, who will be good for us"
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j100202.html

I'm not shedding any tears over Lantos. He certainly didn't when it came to Iraqis.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:36 PM
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40. Lantos, a survivor of the
holocaust, according to NYTimes obit, a supporter of Hitler-like Bush?? As they say, it takes all kinds.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:41 PM
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43. Lantos is mentioned in Sibel Edmonds Rouge gallery
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:44 PM
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44. People post a lot from Counterpunch here
I've yet to see one article from them that's not a bunch of agitation garbage.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:51 PM
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46. Let the man rest in peace, this is not an earth shattering revelation about him
and the two recommends for this thread are stupid. there i said it.
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loser_user Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:09 PM
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49. I did a little research myself on this matter
And it does appear he has been at the center of a number of controversies so to speak over some unsavory actions on his part. But of course he was only human, and I hope he was at peace when he died.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:40 AM
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51. He saw things from the perspective of where he came from
I probably would have had trouble marrying a German if I had been in one
of those camps. Where you've been always colors where you become, to some degree.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:03 AM
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53. Though I didn't care for Lantos or any other sellout,
I don't know the situation of this story so I don't know if everything was characterized correctly.
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