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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:32 PM
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Zoe Lofgren, Closet Impeacher
Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren wants Cheney and Bush impeached, removed from office, prosecuted, and incarcerated, and she won't admit it. Nine members of the House Judiciary Committee on which she serves want Cheney impeached, or at least want to begin impeachment hearings (which everyone knows comes to the same thing). And once you impeach Cheney, the crimes will be on the table and the rest will almost certainly follow.

Lofgren has always seemed to be on the fence. Two years ago, she signed and unsigned John Conyers' resolution for a preliminary impeachment investigation (she said it was a misunderstanding). And now she's written a letter to Conyers asking him to hold a hearing on a report that the Judiciary Committee's staff published in 1974 on "Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment". At the time the report was produced, Lofgren was serving as a staff person for Congressman and Committee Member Don Edwards.

Lofgren has issued a press release on the topic. She has posted a PDF of her letter to Conyers. And she has posted a PDF of the 1974 report "Constitutional Grounds for Presidential Impeachment".

When I first heard about this proposal I thought it might be a way to put impeachment on the table. If, I thought, Conyers could be brought to unsuspectingly hold this hearing, the public would seize on it as the beginning of impeachment and flood Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Chairman Conyers, and the media with such an outpouring of gratitude and praise that Washington would be a completely different place in a week.

On second thought, however, there just isn't any way that Conyers would do such a thing unsuspectingly. He would know, having served on the committee when it produced the report, that there would be no way to hold a hearing on it without moving forward with an impeachment of Cheney. And Lofgren must know the same. That's why I say she is a closet impeachment advocate and ought to come out and say it. She ought to join her nine colleagues, six of whom have signed onto articles of impeachment, and three more of whom - led by Robert Wexler - want to begin impeachment hearings on the vice president.

Lofgren may imagine that having 10 committee members instead of nine in favor of justice wouldn't make any difference, and that she is therefore not responsible for the fate of our constitutional republic. To that I say: let her prove it by adding her name to Wexler's letter to Conyers. If it makes no difference, Lofgren can at least know that she did the right thing, and she can tell her pro-impeachment constituents "See, it made no difference." If she doesn't try, she will have no defense against the penetrating eye of history.

The report is a fairly short historical review of impeachment and analysis of what constitutes grounds for impeachment. It's a bit out of date, of course, and should be supplemented in terms of dry boring facts by Michael Gerhardt's "The Federal Impeachment Process: A Constitutional and Historical Analysis," and in terms of real analysis and insight by John Nichols' "The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism," which is the best book ever written on the topic.

A serious hearing would also review the books on Bush and Cheney's impeachable offenses authored by Marjorie Cohn, Elizabeth de la Vega, the Center for Constitutional Rights, Elizabeth Holtzman (former Congresswoman and member of the Nixon impeachment panel) and Cynthia L. Cooper, Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky, Dennis Loo and Peter Phillips and Howard Zinn, Jennifer Van Bergen, Lewis Lapham, the International Commission of Inquiry on Crimes Against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration, and an excellent book called "The Constitution in Crisis" by a guy named John Conyers.

The 1974 report reviews what is known of the intentions of those who placed impeachment in the Constitution and ratified it. Interestingly, the report develops at some length the concern the founders had that the executive be a single individual, because a presidency consisting of two or more people would eliminate a level of responsibility and accountability:

"The Revolution had been fought against the tyranny of a king and his council, and the framers sought to build in safeguards against executive abuse and usurpation of power. They explicitly rejected a plural executive, despite arguments that they were creating 'the foetus of monarchy,' because a single person would give the most responsibility to the office. For the same reason, they rejected proposals for a council of advice or privy council to the executive."


Yet, we now have a vice president engaged in as much executive decision making as the president, and the public denied the right to know who is responsible for which crimes. In addition, we have our co-presidents asserting "executive privilege" to keep secret any and all discussions they have with their council of advisors, a council that is not supposed to exist.

The report goes on to make clear the intention of the founders to use impeachment to hold in check a president or anyone subordinate to the president for whose actions the president could be held responsible.

James Madison, the principle author of the Constitution, we learn in this report, believed that the president should be absolutely free to fire any subordinates, but should be impeached if any subordinates commit high crimes or misdemeanors. Applying this logic to the US Attorneys, Alberto Gonzales, Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, and other incidents, in each case leads to articles of impeachment against both of our co-presidents.

In the case of Scooter Libby, there's another lesson in the 1974 report: Madison and George Mason both wanted a president impeached if he ever pardoned someone for a crime that he himself was involved in.

The report clarifies that "high crimes and misdemeanors" covers abuses of power, some of which may also be criminal offenses, but less than a third of the 83 articles of impeachment the House had adopted by 1974 involved criminal violations. Reviewing articles of impeachment passed against presidents, cabinet members, and judges, the authors of the report found three main types of abuses that had been considered grounds for impeachment. A cursory reading of the description of any of the three categories (much less a "hearing" on this report) leads to a menu of Bush-Cheney abuses jumping out at you. The three areas are:

1. Exceeding the powers of the office in derogation of those of another branch of government.
2. Behaving in a manner grossly incompatible with the proper function and purpose of the office.
3. Employing the power of the office for an improper purpose or personal gain.

Under point #3 there are two subcategories, both of which Bush and Cheney qualify for on multiple counts: vindictive use of their offices, and use of their offices for personal gain.

The report concludes, almost comically in the context of the Bush-Cheney presidency, that there are "three major presidential duties of broad scope that are explicitly recited in the Constitution: 'to take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,' to 'faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States,' and to 'preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States' to the best of his ability." The authors go on to say: "The duty of a President to 'preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution' to the best of his ability includes the duty not to abuse his powers or transgress their limits - not to violate the rights of citizens, such as those guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, and not to act in derogation of powers vested elsewhere by the Constitution."

(Now would be the time for the NSA staffer assigned to check my Emails to for once make himself useful by jumping in and pointing out the relevance of this conclusion to the current day.)

The gig is up, Congresswoman Lofgren. Conyers will never fall for this.

And neither will the public. Associating yourself with this dated report will not wash away the stain of complicity in the current drift toward monarchy. If you want to make a proposal to Chairman Conyers, I think you should make a serious one. This is a moment for the utmost seriousness. Please sign Congressman Wexler's letter asking for impeachment hearings for the vice president.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:35 PM
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1. Happy to kick this!
:kick:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:37 PM
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2. Rec'd with thanks! nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:38 PM
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3. It's Worth A Try--Pressuring Individual Committee Members to Support Impeachment
God knows, we've tried everything else legal. Beginning to think that blackmail and bribery might be the only way to bring justice to the nation. How perverted is that?
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:48 PM
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4. sort of like
spying on us, locking us up, and torturing us to protect our americun freedums
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:53 PM
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5. The Difference Being--Ours Might Actually Accomplish The Stated Ends
whereas theirs is impossible on its face.
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Mac128 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:55 PM
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6. Gotta Say ...
I'm accosted by volunteers every time i go to the grocery store wanting me to sign a petition to Impeach Cheney. It's less than a year before they're all out! What exactly does anyone hope to accomplish by impeaching Cheney now? Other than tie up the entire government, judicial process, election and media up into an absolute circus that could negatively impact who should be elected as the next president. Shouldn't ALL democratic resources be better spent at the moment, like getting the right candidate elected? Even the extreme fringe groups,you know the one's that diminish the atrocities of Hitler and Stalin by comparing Bush & Cheney to them. I was all for it this time last year, but come on, if you couldn't et it done then, pack up the sandwhich boards and go campaign for your favorite candidate. Let's go after the bastards once we're in charge again.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:57 PM
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7. glad you should ask
It is never too late to establish that future presidents and vice presidents will be required to obey laws and the Constitution.

It is far from too late to try to prevent the damage Bush and Cheney can still do.

There is nothing else for Congress to do that impeachment could distract from. All good bills are vetoed and all partially good bills are signing statemented.

Impeachment in this case would be very quick because of the overwhelming evidence.

If your preference is to focus on the next election, think about how that election would look were John McCain forced to choose between the Constitution and Dick Cheney.

Most impeachments happen late. The movements to impeach Truman and Hoover happened later than this one.

Most impeachment movements achieve useful results in restoring the rule of law without getting all the way to impeachment, much less removal from office.

If there is time for endless hours of grilling steroid-popping baseball players, there is time for impeachment.

If Congress is sincere about wanting Bush and Cheney to obey its laws and comply with its subpoenas it will impeach. If it does not impeach, it is not sincere.


READ THE REST OF THE REASONS:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/impeachfaq


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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:48 AM
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8. Very well said
For all of these reasons, I don't care if it takes until late morning on Inauguration Day. Let impeachment run its course.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:49 AM
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9. Thoroughly agree! I had this wish last Thursday that after boner and the
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 12:50 AM by calimary
republi-CONS stomped out like spoiled five-year-olds in mid-tantrum, that our Dems would just have the doors locked and then immediately take up IMPEACHMENT proceedings. That'd teach 'em a lesson about staging such a stunt again! FINE, assholes! Be that way. Go ahead and walk out. Glad to have you OUT OF THE WAY, 'cause now we can finally get some long-overdue business taken care of.

Then they'd certainly find out and try to come back in and they'd discover they're locked out.

We let them in after they stew a little while and tell them - the IMPEACHMENT's happened. It's a done deal. It's one for the history books now. Maybe you shouldn't have staged such a childish hissy-fit! Tell ya what we're gonna do: we'll agree to leave it where it is. Voted successfully in the House. We'll agree not to take it further - to a trial in the Senate. And you just go back over to your little chairs and sit down and SHUT THE FUCK UP. When we want you, we'll call you up here. And when we want shit out of you, we'll squeeze your heads.





Hey, I can dream, can't I?

:evilgrin:

But honest to Pete - Nancy Pelosi is a mother and a grandmother forcryingoutloud. SURELY by now she knows how to handle unruly children and their brat-child temper tantrums. You do NOT coddle them. You do NOT give in and let them have their way. You stand firm. You show them there are consequences for acting like a moron. Around our house, the watchwords - particularly for our son when he was an itty-bitty - were "if you act like a jerk, you're gonna be TREATED LIKE A JERK!!!" And it was a pretty effective technique. He did NOT want to be treated like a jerk. He learned quickly. Rather painlessly, too!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:20 AM
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10. I Don't Understand Pelosi
What does she think she's accomplishing by colluding with BushCo?

She doesn't need to "keep her job". It's not like she's the sole support of her family and one paycheck from poverty. So there are no extenuating circumstances that could justify her staying her hand on impeachment.

So what prevents her from using the power of her office for the greater good?

It's not that the country would be plunged into chaos, either. The country is already in chaos, on all fronts including the economic one. Impeachment would be lancing the boil, letting the pus drain out of the body politic, and starting the healing process.

It's not like she's accomplishing anything else, either, in a trade off with BushCo. Her term as Speaker has no accomplishments to speak of (and don't think that minimum wage increases that don't even bring it up to inflation count with anyone).

She's just prolonging the pain and torture, ensuring that more people die at home and abroad. Nancy is asking for impeachment, herself!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:03 AM
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11. The Democrats are playing it safe
Don't get me wrong -- nothing would make me happier than to see BushCo impeached. But I think the Dems feel they are close to capturing the White House and increasing their numbers in Congress. If they move with impeachment it gives repukes the opportunity to fire back with all that patriotic "we're at war" crap that just could turn some of those fringe voters back to the Right.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:13 AM
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12. Actually, Lofgren Is Now An UnCloseted Bushie
Her press release claims nothing they've done rises to the level of impeachment.
  • Torture and war crimes; not impeachable. Even though they violate US Federal Law and our Geneva Treaty obligations.

  • Bugging without a warrant; not impeachable. Even though it violates the FISA law directly and the 4th Amendment generally.

  • Claiming monarchical, "unitary" power; not impeachable. Even though it negates the rule of law and the US Constitution in its entirety.
The regime admits and "defends" these atrocities as lawful. What more "clear and convicing" evidence is she seeking? Her press release is the rhetorical equivalent of shuffling papers. It makes her look like a weak ignoramous.

I suppose her "stategery" staff may have just decided to give up parroting their lame excuses for inaction/failure. But she really has come out as the regime's firewall.

If you refuse to see the "evidence" right in your face, there can never be "enough."

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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:24 AM
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13. She's been reigned-in by Pelosi,
same as my congressman Mike Thompson (CA 1st District). S.F. Bay Area reps are under her control.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:43 AM
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14. Why only pushing the Democrats? We NEED moderate Republicans to get pushed into this as well. nt
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