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Lennon Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:00 PM
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New Video of Skateboard Baltimore Cop
Skateboard Baltimore Cop Kicks Street Artist’s Moving Box

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=867_1203133697
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:12 PM
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1. Suspended with pay.
This nutjob needs to be fired. Obviously he has serious anger management issues. Perhaps it is a consequence of having to wear a katzenjammer kids kostume while driving a klown kar in public on a daily basis that has gotten to him.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:17 PM
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3. Being suspended with pay may be due to a collective bargaining agreement.
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 01:21 PM by Fridays Child
If so, it's just like many provisions in the law that protect the innocent: the guilty benefit from them, too. And I'd rather see that than to have no protections, at all. But, if justice is eventually served in this case, he'll lose his badge.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:25 PM
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6. Googler says no. (Which means no suspension without pay.)
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 01:33 PM by Warren Stupidity
"ARTICLE 16
DISCIPLINE
A. Suspension
1. Emergency suspension with or without pay may be imposed by the
Department when it appears that the action is in the best interest of the public and the
law enforcement agency. Any member arrested and charged with a criminal offense, a
serious traffic violation involving death or serious personal injury, and/or an act alleged
or committed by such member of such a nature that, in the judgment of the appropriate
superior officer, the interest and welfare of the public, the Department, or the individual
is best served by such action, such member shall be immediately suspended from duty
with pay. When a member is charged with a criminal offense, said charge(s) shall be
supported at least in part by the investigative findings of another law enforcement
officer. Any employee suspended from duty with pay shall be given a suspension
hearing not later than the next working day following the suspension from duty,
wherein a determination will be made at that time whether or not the member shall
remain suspended with or without pay and/or be placed on administrative duties.
Suspension without pay may only be imposed in accordance with this Section and only
in the case of a member charged with a felony.
2. Any member who is suspended without pay on the basis of pending
criminal charges and who is found not guilty, or who has the criminal charges stetted or
nol prossed, shall be immediately reinstated to pay status with all benefits, including but
not limited to health, incremental pay raises, and all lost pay from the effective date of
his or her suspension without pay up through the date of reinstatement to pay status,
except in a case where the State has an appeal pending."

http://www.bls.gov/cba/reports/cbrp0250.pdf

That is the 2004 contract. I only spent 30s on this so the discipline rules might have changed, but I doubt it.

Edit: my title was confusing. I'm agreeing with you.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:36 PM
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7. "Suspension without pay may only be imposed in accordance with this Section and...
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 01:42 PM by Fridays Child
...only in the case of a member charged with a felony."

To my knowledge, he hasn't been charged with a felony, so he can't be suspended without pay. And his actions must be investigated before it can be determined whether he should be fired. It seems to me that, under the rules you're citing here, the only thing that they can do to him, at this point, is suspend him with pay.

ETA: I'm not defending his actions. I'm only defending the need for rules and laws which, sometimes, cast their protective nets too broadly. It's better, in my view, to protect some gulity people while protecting as many innocent people as possible than to fail to protect the innocent, at all.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:40 PM
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8. I agree - by the rules he cannot be suspended without pay.
He should however be fired.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:48 PM
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11. If justice is served, he will be.
And, now that the case has achieved such a high profile, I don't see how his superiors could possibly exercise any sort of special treatment, either for or against him. They'll go by the book, which is what they've done by suspending him with pay.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:13 PM
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2. He has an anger management problem and should not be allowed to carry a badge.
Unfortunately, his family and acquaintances probably have to deal with his bad behavior, too.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:18 PM
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4. Suggested treatment for the Officer: Diet, exercise and gonad-removal.
This guy needs to be stripped of the meager authority he's been given, and he needs
to have his little pug-nosed 'car' taken away, STAT.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:19 PM
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5. hahhaa that fuck has thrown away his 17 years
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:40 PM
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9. I am not
surprised that another video has surfaced, that officer likely has a long history of abusing his authority. From my experience having been on the receiving end of that kind of Police behavior, usually it goes unreported until the officer gets comfortable doing that often enough that he gets caught on video or in front of enough witnesses to get him busted.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:43 PM
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10. Swoot!
Hmmm, they can add destruction of property to the charges.

-Hoot
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:50 PM
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12. I think it's great that more of these bullying assholes will be exposed
with the advent of cell-phone cameras and other such portable devices... :thumbsup:
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:56 PM
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13. Wow, this guy makes Houston PD look good.
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