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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:44 PM
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143 MILLION pounds of frozen beef recalled from So. Cal. slaughterhouse (largest recall ever)
USDA recalls 143 million pounds of beef
U.S. officials call action on S. Calif. slaughterhouse largest beef recall ever

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23212514/

LOS ANGELES - The U.S. Department of Agriculture on Sunday recalled 143 million pounds of frozen beef from a Southern California slaughterhouse that is being investigated for mistreating cattle.

Officials said it was the largest beef recall in the United States, surpassing a 1999 ban of 35 million pounds of ready-to-eat meats.

The federal agency said the recall will affect beef products dating to Feb. 1, 2006, that came from Chino, California-based Westland/Hallmark Meat Co., which supplies meat to the federal school lunch program and to some major fast-food chains.

Secretary of Agriculture Ed Schafer said his department has evidence that Westland did not routinely contact its veterinarian when cattle became non-ambulatory after passing inspection, violating health regulations.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:47 PM
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1. "Westland did not routinely contact its veterinarian when cattle became non-ambulatory"?
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:49 PM by originalpckelly
Holy shit, that could be mad cow!

And which major fast food chains would be affected? Huh? Can't tell us that, can you motherfuckers!

I'm so sick of this bullshit where consumers are being screwed over!
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:49 PM
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2. Even Worse,
From the article:

The federal agency said the recall will affect beef products dating to Feb. 1, 2006, that came from Chino, California-based Westland/Hallmark Meat Co., which supplies meat to the federal school lunch program and to some major fast-food chains.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:49 PM
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3. when cattle became non-ambulatory
aka "down cows" = sick or dying

put one of those cow in and you can contaminate thousands of cows
as they are processed.

That is why I go to a butcher were they grind their own meat.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:00 PM
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14. I have the meat grinder attachment for my Kitchen Aid mixer...
...and I generally buy chuck, often sold as "beef stew meat," and grind my own. I haven't purchased commercially processed ground beef in over a decade.

:toast:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:11 PM
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39. It's why I don't eat any meat at all. Well, one reason. nt
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:52 PM
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4. How many years have they been selling us this?
They've put virtually every person who's eaten fast-food in the last few years at risk for getting BSE or god knows what else.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:54 PM
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6. one more reason not to eat fast food (which I didn't anyway, but, after
reading "fast food nation", you couldn't GIVE me that crap)
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:59 PM
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12. You can eat fast food.
You just don't want to order the hamburger.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:05 PM
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19. actually, I can't-- the sodium content and chemicals do me in.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:05 PM
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20. Or anything with a meat product ingredient
Of course the salad may give you e. coli...
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:01 PM
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15. This is basically throughout our entire food chain at this point
Unless you are a vegan I'm betting you're at risk. I don't believe this is the only company to do this and I think they've all been doing it a long time.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:25 PM
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24. not vegan, not even vegetarian, but I eat very little red meat of any kind,
and NO ground beef at all. I thank my stars we do have the whole foods chain here, and a very good farmers' market in summer.
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:32 PM
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29. Not even vegans are safe ie: e-coli in spinach.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:14 PM
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59. I walked in McDonalds the other day and it smelled like elephant dung
I turned around and walked out but I can't seem to get that smell out of my mind.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:55 PM
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7. Indeed it has, my GOD! This is pretty fucking scary...
even scarier when you consider it was all predicted about 8 years ago.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:04 PM
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18. Europe worked to clean up its food-chain. We buried the problem.
For a number of years the government has been preventing beef producers from testing their product for BSE. Yes, preventing them. Wish I had a link. Maybe someone reading this can supply one.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:31 PM
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28. Ditto. There's a link out there
I've posted in one such story here on DU. The farmers had wanted to test their cattle, but our all-so-loving gov't forbade it -- and probably was going to fine them if they went ahead with the testing.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:52 PM
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5. From the website of the affected company:
http://www.westlandmeat.com/

Absolute bullshit, now isn't it?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:28 PM
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27. Amazing.. blame it all on 2 employees... They take
their cues from the Republican party quite well don't they.
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:43 PM
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46. Um
Nice statement. Really made me believe it when Mr. Mendell's lawyer used the words "thru" and "breech."

How many cows make 143 million pounds of beef? I'm staggered by the amount of resources controlled by such imbeciles, but then again beef processing is a horrifying job that has to be done.

Every time I eat beef I know I'm taking a serious risk. Still tastes yummy, though.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:05 PM
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51. It doesn't have to be done. You don't have to eat meat.
I don't. I don't find dead, tortured animals "yummy". But that's me.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:55 PM
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8. what was the company just last year where they recalled 43 million pounds of meat?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:55 PM
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9. The rumor is that this because of some guerrilla video tapes about it
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 05:02 PM by nolabels
Don't know if any of it's on the web yet but i would bet so.

On edit, here is a something related

Two charged with abusing sick cattle at Chino slaughterhouse
By GREG RISLING Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 02/15/2008 11:10:19 AM PST

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif.—Two former employees of a Chino slaughterhouse were charged Friday with abusing ailing cattle that were forced into a slaughterhouse that provided meat to school lunch programs.

Bench warrants for the arrest of Daniel Navarro, 49, of Pomona and Luis Sanchez, 32, of Chino were issued after they failed to attend an afternoon arraignment.

The case came to light after undercover video surfaced showing crippled and sick animals being shoved with forklifts.

"The facts of this case are horrendous," San Bernardino County District Attorney Michael Ramos told a news conference at which the charges were announced. "It makes your stomach turn to see what they did to these cows."

Five felony counts of animal cruelty and three misdemeanors were filed against Navarro. Three misdemeanor counts were filed against Sanchez.
(snip)
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8272653
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:56 PM
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10. You're absolute right, even says so in the story!
:P
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:26 PM
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25. Us humans, one of the several omnivores do not have degestive system for ...........
disease or bacteria ridden meat. I found this little Youtube video about it also. but the jest of story is something your dog could eat might not be something we could eat even after cooking quite thoroughly The prions in mad cow disease are even more of a threat. (sure this is old info, but there might be somebody who doesn't know yet :-) )


California Slaughterhouse; Human Cruelty Exposed
by: Betsy L. Angert
Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 19:18:41 PM PST
http://www.myleftwing.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=4C322309CF6E6FF2000941DF93ED4B97?diaryId=20719
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:03 PM
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16. Yep, They Just Got Caught
Imagine how many others haven't been.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:12 PM
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21. The Humane Society of the United States got the footage.
You can read all about it at www.hsus.org
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:16 PM
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63. I looked further into the link and found this information
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:14 PM
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41. They've been trained to think of live animals as "things".
So, they get bored and start abusing them. Why is anyone surprised? If you eat meat, you support this kind of thing.
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:47 PM
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47. Aha! It was Mezkins
Who were probably desperate for work and were paid subpar wages with no benefits.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:57 PM
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just a weird thought here. has anybody researched a link between the rise in autism
and the ruin of our food supplies?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:00 PM
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13. Autism tends to show up extremely early.
I don't think you can blame it correctly on tainted food. Other pollution perhaps, but not food.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:03 PM
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17. What if it's the food the MOTHER eats? (nt)
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:15 PM
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22. Don't think so.
My guess would the formaldehyde in trailers. We lived in a mobile home with a smell of formaldehyde for two years. I had an autistic child. Both the child before and the child a few years after the autistic child were normal. I suspect someone should take some time to track those who have been living in the FEMA trailers.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:21 PM
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23. What happens to all that meat now?
This is a scary situation.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:26 PM
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26. there are many things that need to be researched.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:57 PM
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11. Named "Supplier Of The Year" by the Agriculture Department.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:06 PM
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37. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Thankfully we don't eat red meat.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:33 PM
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30. We need another Upton Sinclair on this...n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:25 PM
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52. Looks like we have one. The video was shot undercover,
and given to the Humane Society of the United States. To whom I just sent a donation.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:37 PM
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54. Right On, critters!
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 07:38 PM by adsosletter
It took the Ida Tarbell's and the Upton Sinclair's of earlier generations to foment change; looks like that's what is needed to get the ball rolling.

Hope things with you are well. :hi:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:43 PM
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55. Tiresome, busy, but okay.
Hope things are well with you, too. :hi:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:33 PM
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31. Quit eating beef about 5 years ago
and never looked back. Stories like this remind me why.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:53 PM
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49. If you eat dairy, you're still adding to the suffering. These abused cattle were dairy cows,
Holsteins, probably no longer producing milk. But they had spent their lives giving humans the milk that had been intended for their calves.

Giving up beef isn't enough.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:00 PM
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57. I started drinking soy milk and I'm trying to quit smoking
One insurmountable hurdle at a time please k?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:02 PM
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58. Every bit helps.
Each in their own time, sk69.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:48 PM
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32. Ooohh, that's going to be fun, considering.
I just saw a documentary on global climate change on Nat'l geo channel tonight, where a scientist decided to figure out the carbon footprint of a cheeseburger because Americans eat on average 3 cheeseburgers a week. 3 a week! And when one sick cow can contaminate untold amounts of ground meat that opens up for immense risk for all Americans.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:51 PM
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33. We always get the look from people if we tell them
but commercial beef is not in the diet of this family. It can be awkward at barbecues and family dinners. I asked our daughter's school to indicate on the menu the food items that contained beef so we would know to pack a lunch that day. They already had pork and vegetarian items labeled but you'd have thought I was from Mars for asking the same for beef. The Chino slaughterhouse in this article is about 50 miles from here, so I wouldn't doubt that some of this beef ended up in the cafeteria of the school. But I'm a looney. :eyes:

I want to mention that we do eat beef from sources we have trust in.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:16 PM
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42. Why eat beef at all? I don't any meat, which is way easier than
worrying about where one's meat comes from.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:45 PM
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61. Well, that would be fine by me, but
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 08:46 PM by OnionPatch
not with my husband. What I've done instead is try to buy it less often and from sustainable farms.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:57 PM
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34. One of the main issues in this and other matters is and will be Privatization!!!!
Without the proper amount of Government regulators and oversight we have the following:

Food Contamination
Dangerous Toys
Iraq War Privateers - Blackwater, etc.
Walter Reed and other VA Private Oversite
Our Military is being ransacked by Privateers
The CIA and FBI are being reformed into Private Companies

http://truthemergency.us/content/view/16/32/

Shock Doctrine

Wherever it has emerged over the past thirty-five years, from Santiago to Moscow to Beijing to Bush’s Washington, the alliance between a small corporate elite and a right-wing government has been written off as some sort of aberration—mafia capitalism, oligarchy capitalism and now, under Bush, “crony capitalism.” But it’s not an aberration; it is where the entire Chicago School crusade—with its triple obsessions—privatization, deregulation and union-busting—has been leading.

Rumsfeld’s and Cheney’s dogged refusals to choose between their disaster-connected holdings and their public duties were the first sign that a corporatist state had arrived.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:25 AM
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68. Not a pretty picture, eh?
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:01 PM
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35. Going vegan was and still is the best, smartest thing I've ever done.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:13 PM
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40. I think LeftyMom might disagree...
I'll have to call her attention to this thread... :D
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:19 PM
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43. Aha, but if I hadn't
gone vegan, she'd have never given me a second look. Still the best decision I ever made. ;)
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:25 PM
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44. Touche'...your statement remains unassailable...
:rofl:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:56 PM
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72. Hell, I only joined this site after ages lurking 'cause I noticed there were quite a few vegans
Well, two I'd noticed. I didn't know any others IRL way back then, so two seemed like a hell of a lot. :D One of them was that mouthy kid from floriduh.

So not only was his being vegan a prerequisite for getting in my pants, it played a big part in me joining this website, which was also a prerequisite for meeting me and eventually getting in my pants.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:09 PM
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64. I'm went vegetarian when BSE was a hot topic three years ago.
I'm still veggin' it, but haven't been able to bring myself to veganism yet. It's hard with the family that doesn't want to give up animal-based products.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:32 PM
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67. Very cool, Ilsa!
Veg*ism, no matter the "level" is a great thing. Come hang out with us in the DU Veg* group some time!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=231
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:03 AM
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70. I used to hang there all the time, but for awhile there was more
posting about animal rights, and I just don't have much to contribute there (sorry!) I love the giant recipe thread, and comments about any new food products veg*-ans find.

The forum really inspired me. I thought it was going to be really hard to do, and sometimes eating out is perplexing, especially in Texas, but that's when I do simple salads! I started out with an open mind about it, and just let it run. I can't handle additional pressure in my life.

Sometimes my gut gets a little messed up because there'll be chicken broth in a soup, but when I travel with my husband, I have to make minor concessions. If a little broth is the closest I come, then I'm pretty happy with my progress. I try to stick with Jason's Deli here in Texas, which carries several tasty vegetarian dishes, sandwiches, and soups.

Thank you for the praise and encouragement. Most people here don't understand why I do it.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:04 PM
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36. :(
which supplies meat to the federal school lunch program

:cry:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:10 PM
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65. Alot of kids won't even touch that food, it is so badly prepared.
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 10:11 PM by Ilsa
They have managed to make the rules about food prep so strict that alot of the cafeteria stuff is bland and hard to work up some saliva for. Anyway, I hope nothing bad gets into the kids' food supply.
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:09 PM
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38. M$M News as it today
They are talking about it as an abuse of the animals. Shows the animals unable to get up but does not talk about that.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:36 PM
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45. VIDEO of some of the cattle slaughtered
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:51 PM
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48. The video has been removed from those sites, but is available here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x-5FUaK3FOM&feature=related

The cattle in these videos are dairy cattle. So if you eat meat or dairy, you bear responsibility for this abuse.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:04 PM
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50. I just noticed that
thank you and I agree. We are all guilty until we quite the animal eating trade.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:37 PM
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53. No, wait, where are the DU "Progressives" who chime in with puerile posts like "Beef -- mmmmm"?
Don't disappoint me now.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:48 PM
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56. They're around. Trust me. nt
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:31 PM
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60. Thanks and Congratulations to Those Who Pushed This Story to the Public
I assume these are the "downer" cows we heard about?
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:05 PM
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62. This'll bring out the self-righteous vegetarians...
...now: I am the latter, not the former. I haven't eaten meat in 31 years, so I don't feel the need to prostlytize or be all born-again about it. I truly believe humans are omnivores, I choose not to participate in how meat ends up on our tables in the 21st century.

To that end, for all of you who eat beef: please go the extra mile and find a local butcher. An organic butcher, or a kosher or halal butcher is so much healthier than Wal-mart or (even worse) eating cheap hamburgers in fast-food restaurants. Our omnivorous ancestors didn't eat meat every day or every week--humans don't need half as much protein as we're led to believe we do.

It's not the killing of animals for food that's heinous: it's the exploitation, the cruelty of the Factory Farm that will keep me vegetarian for another 31 years and beyond!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 10:13 PM
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66. Good advice. I still make meat dishes for hubby and family.
Cruelty and ecology and health were the three big issues that I was considering 2.5 years ago when I started my vegetarian diet.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:06 AM
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69. I just saw a report on this after reading about it here.
The treatment of those animals was horrific. Plus the company was knowingly selling beef from sick animals. People disgusts me at times. How can anyone be so cruel?
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:43 AM
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71. The descriptions of abuse made me really sad
Kicking and poking cows that are too sick to stand :(....

The Humane Society is a good group-they get quite a bit of decent regulation passed:
http://www.hsus.org
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