Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

[spotbird]

The guy that killed the students this week didn't use a machete.

[ileus]

1. Good point.....

[Pavulon]

2. They did in Rwanda, your point..(nt)

[spotbird]

4. Where it is one against a thousand

the guy with the knife is at a disadvantage.

Could 9/11 happen today, the same way? Nope. It couldn't continue for more than hours the day it happened, because people will stop knives.

[MercutioATC]

3. Correct...but rebels in the Congo use machetes.

A gun doesn't cause death any more than any other inanimate object. Taking human life requires intent...and that intent can be fulfilled using almost any means.

Wanna deal with murder rates? Deal with the education, employment, mental health, and penal systems. Those are the real culprits, not guns.

[spotbird]

6. Again, they must outnumber their victims

who have no defense. If they had guns they'd kill more efficiently. That doesn't advocate for guns.

[zabet]

5. Wrong.

People with guns AND
ammunition kill people.
Why aren't there some
stop-gap measures on
ammo purchases? I do
not even have to show
an ID to purchase 1000
rounds of 9mm ammo.

[Pavulon]

7. I dont need 6 hours to make that many...(next)

[spotbird]

8. Great point

a gun without ammunition isn't an improvemt over a rock. You're a thinker.

[Bluzmann57]

9. Chris Rock had a great solution to a problem

He said make bullets so expensive that people can't afford them. He was being funny, but it made sense.

[Pavulon]

10. Until you look at something like,WEED

I mean we banned it but you can still find it. Why, how has such a simple plain failed..

[U4ikLefty]

11. Because weed can be grown & bullets cannot.

It requies someone to acquire the gunpowder.

[Pavulon]

16. Yes which is readily available and legal..

[Plague]

12. Valid point

There are astronomically large stockpiles of ammunition in private ownership, and god-knows how many people own presses to manufacture their own.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

15. That makes sense! I love that idea! Now try to convince the gun manufacturers

After all, the reason we're armed to the gills is because of the corporate @$$holes that manufacture guns. Lobbying Congress up the wazoo.

[Pavulon]

18. Supply makes demand, then GM should be just

fine. People just buy stuff because someone makes it.

[MercutioATC]

21. Chris Rock is a COMEDIAN....are you really that ignorant of gun issues?

Make factory 9mm ammo $20/round.

There will be millions of rounds available from reloaders. People will reload their own ammo. All of this is legal.


Until you people realize that it's not the weapon that causes the problem, it's the reason for the violent intent, we're all doomed.



Congrats on being a nearsighted lemming.

[Bluzmann57]

24. Hmmm...

I never said it was the fucking weapon that causes the problem. I merely pointed out that Chris Rock, a comedian, had a comedic solution to the problem. Congratulations on being a stick up your ass liberal. The type that gives the rest of us a bad name.
Now just for the record, I am not an advocate of a weapons ban. I have fired guns many times in my life and will continue to do so. I will not kill people though. You need to lighten up.

[MercutioATC]

25. Where the fuck did you get "stick up your ass liberal" out of that?

My point is that the anti-gun liberals are ignoring the actual cause of the problem.

I'm a gun owner. I support the right to own guns...and the right to own ammunition for those guns.


Do you advocate making ammunition prohibitively expensive or not?

[AlinPA]

13. The problem is not really with guns; the problem is the US culture.

Guns seem to be the preferred method in the culture and with rapid fire a lot of damage can be done.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

14. You're right. He didn't use a bow and arrow, machete, etc. Excellent point. nt

[Pavulon]

19. Or a suicide vest...

those are banned in israel. Did you know that is illegal too, right?

[Timefortruth]

20. What's your point? nr

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. Suicide vests are banned in Israel? Why? I didn't know. I lived there, by the way nt

[DBoon]

17. people with guns who believe guns are magic

that a gun can suddenly settle all grievances, real and imagined

that a gun can give you the justice that you have been denied

that a gun ca give you the power that life hasn't

[-..__...]

23. "What we have here is a failure to communicate"...

"Some Democrats you just can't reach. So you get what we had here in 2000, which is the way they want it... well, they gets it. I don't like it any more than you do."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3185613#3186127

And what do we do when machetes are the killing tool of choice... why we ban or regulate them of course...

AN ACT RELATIVE TO THE POSSESSION OF A MACHETE

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:

SECTION 1.

Subsection (b) of section 10 of chapter 269 of the General Laws, as appearing in the 2002 Official Edition is hereby amended by inserting after the word “inches”, in line 67, the following word:- , machete.

SECTION 2. Said subsection (b) of said section 10 of said chapter 269, as so appearing, is hereby further amended by adding the following paragraph:-

For purposes of this section, “machete” means “a heavy knife at least 18 inches in length and having a blade at least 1.5 inches wide at its broadest measurement. This subsection shall not apply to carrying a machete on one’s person or in a vehicle if the machete is carried for the purpose of cutting vegetation or if the machete is being transported for the purpose of cutting vegetation. In a prosecution of a violation of this subsection, there shall be a permissible inference that such carrying of a machete is not for the purposes of cutting vegetation. Such presumption may be rebutted.

Any individual who requires a machete for the purposes of cutting vegetation shall register the machete with the local police department on an annual basis and, upon payment of an appropriate annual registration fee as determined by the local granting authority, shall be issued a permit authorizing him to possess the machete solely for the purposes of cutting vegetation.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/st01/st01384.htm

Thankfully... this abomination didn't pass, but regardless of that, it should provide some insight into the mindset and logic of certain gun control cretins.

Smarten the fuck up people.

If you don't care about elections at least show some respect and support for all of the BOR and not just the parts that
you agree with... even if it doesn't make you feel all warm and cozy inside.

Some of you are no better than the Republican assholes that you complain about.

[proud2BlibKansan]

26. Guns don't die, people do