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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:17 AM
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DU's Paul Thompson updates 9/11 timeline with latest info from FBI.
Almost seems like some of these Fundy Islamic terrorists were into the "make love not war" thing (no doubt just to throw the feds off the scent):


A contributor to the History Commons has obtained a 298-page document entitled Hijackers Timeline (Redacted) from the FBI, subsequent to a Freedom of Information Act request. The document was a major source of information for the 9/11 Commission’s final report. Though the commission cited the timeline 52 times in its report, it failed to include some of the document’s most important material.

The printed document is dated November 14, 2003, but appears to have been compiled in mid-October 2001 (the most recent date mentioned in it is October 22, 2001), when the FBI was just starting to understand the backgrounds of the hijackers, and it contains almost no information from the CIA, NSA, or other agencies. This raises questions as to why the 9/11 Commission relied so heavily on such an early draft for their information about the hijackers.

Specific new information:

* New evidence suggests that some of the hijackers were assisted by employees of the Saudi government. It has previously been reported that Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi who was paid by the Saudi government despite not doing any work, assisted hijackers Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi when they first moved to the US. The FBI timeline shows that when these two hijackers moved into their first San Diego apartment, they indicated that they had been living with Bayoumi in the apartment next door for the previous two weeks. In fact, they had been with him in that apartment since January 15, 2000, the very day they first flew into the US, arriving in Los Angeles. The timeline also reveals that hijacker Hani Hanjour was seen in Bayoumi’s apartment.

* Omar al-Bayoumi. The new book The Commission by New York Times reporter Philip Shenon published last week further reveals that Bayoumi had close ties to Fahad al-Thumairy, a radical imam working in the Saudi consulate in Los Angeles. For instance, Bayoumi frequently called al-Thumairy while living next door to the two hijackers, and also frequently called the Saudi embassy in Washington, D.C. The book also reveals that the 9/11 Commission was aware of “explosive” revelations about the ties between Bayoumi, Thumairy, and the two hijackers, but the commission’s final report omitted “virtually all of the most serious allegations against the Saudis,” due to diplomatic considerations. Now, thanks to this FBI timeline, we are discovering more of this suppressed evidence relating to Saudi Arabia.

* Security camera footage obtained by the FBI after 9/11 indicated that Khalid Almihdhar and possibly Salem Alhazmi cased Dulles Airport in Washington, D.C., the evening before 9/11. This fits the account of a security guard , related in Unsafe at Any Altitude by Joe and Susan Trento, who independently claimed to have seen two hijackers, Salem’s brother Nawaf and Marwan Alshehhi, casing Dulles Airport the night before 9/11. This guard claims the two hijackers were part of a group of five men, three of whom were dressed in United Airlines ramp worker uniforms, that behaved suspiciously. Despite a lawsuit by 9/11 victims’ relatives against United Airlines and others for negligence, the US government has never revealed the existence of this video footage which might support claims that the hijackers had inside help.

* Hijackers Marwan Alshehhi and Hamza Alghamdi purchased hundreds of dollars of “pornographic video and sex toys” in Florida. They spent $252 on video and toys in early July 2001, and then another $183 later that month. Furthermore, Satam Al Suqami likely paid for a sex escort in Boston on September 7, 2001. Alshehhi was also recognized by six dancers at Cheetah’s, a nightclub in Pompano Beach, Florida. This fits in with other evidence of the hijackers drinking alcohol, paying for lap dancers, watching pornographic videos, etc…—hardly the expected behavior of religious radicals.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-423

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:21 AM
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1. "hardly the expected behavior of religious radicals." - How idiotic.
So it's simply unthinkable that religious radicals would purchase porn and sex toys? That's pretty stupid. Religious radicals are probably responsible for keeping adult sex shops afloat in this country.

Hypocrisy doesn't mean radicals won't carry out their evil mission.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:26 AM
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2. they left out an important word...they were REPRESSED religious radicals...
the items they bought wouldn't have been readily available to them in an islamic society.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:04 AM
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8. Just trying to blend
One of my co-workers at the CIA had been stationed in Thailand and had good connections with the local service. One of his Thai contacts told him about how the local prostitutes hated the Saudis because they were a bunch of sadistic perverts. They would show up, literally, with suitcases full of money and spend it all drinking and whoring until the money ran out.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:43 AM
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27. I think they sound exactly like religious radicals
say one thing and do another. worship an all powerful all loving god, allah or whatever and kill in his name. It's the republican mantra "say one thing and do another" That's why the religiously whacked love the repubs so much.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:31 AM
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3. New evidence suggests that some of the hijackers were assisted by employees of the Saudi government.
i gotta wonder just what kind of..."incentives"...our government received from the saudi's to keep the 9/11 investigation pointed in a different direction...?

for instance- if they decided that it might be better for them to only deal in euros...and commit most of their production to china and india. and invite other opec nations to join them.
stuff like that.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:47 AM
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10. They didn't need any incentives.
9/11 was a joint-venture with Bushco. Zelikow was the Bushco stooge who kept the 9/11 Commission on a tight leash.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:00 AM
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22. Here's something significant: FBI had been wiretapping Bayoumi and Thumiery since 1998
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 07:36 AM by leveymg
Why were these guys under electronic surveillance, and why didn't the Bureau pick up on the arrival of Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Midhar?

See, p. 515 of the 9/11 Commission Report, Notes to Chapter 7, para. 1: http://www.faqs.org/docs/911/911Report-532.html

The deeper significance of Bayoumi is that the funds he used to house al-Hazmi and al-Midhar, the Flt. 77 hijackers, was money dispensed from the Riggs Bank account in the name of the wife of Ambassador Bandar.

Bandar manages the biggest Saudi slush fund -- "Yamamah" -- funds from which, apparently, were used for the 9/11 attacks.

Bandar is now in deep for his threatenng comments to Blair about potential prosecution for bribery in the UK with the BAE-Yamamah slush funds, and his accounts in the US have also been frozen.

Something BIG is coming down, soon.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:02 PM
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23. Big? like MSM talking about this non-stop, or
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 PM by DemReadingDU
Big? like another major attack in the U.S., or maybe the attack on Iran?

edit: an attack to divert knowledge about Saudi involvement?
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:24 AM
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24. Big, like the next step in efforts to grab Saudi oil and assets
Whether that provokes a major attack on the U.S., or ends up destablizing the entire Persian Gulf region, resulting in a war involving us and Iran, only time will tell.

Time's running out for the next role of the dice by Commander Double-Down.

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:37 AM
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4. Kick and bookmarked.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:42 AM
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5. K&R and bookmarked along with other 9/11, Sibel Edmonds threads.
snip
"New evidence suggests that some of the hijackers were assisted by employees of the Saudi government."
snip
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:47 PM
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12. Of course - this is one continuous operation still as set forth in BCCI - an operation
that never ended because all the players had continuing protection throughout the 90s.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:56 AM
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6. OMG! You mean SAUDI ARABIA
might have had a hand in 911 and NOT Iraq? Who'd a thunk it? :sarcasm:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:25 AM
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7. Thank you, Paul. And JohnyCanuck for posting. n/t
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:07 PM
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11. Glad to help Paul get the word out
about the invaluable service the 9/11 time line does in cutting through government bafflegab and bullshit.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:24 AM
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9. "The Saudis are (smirk) my intimate occult cronies." - Commander AWOL
"So move along. There is nothing to see here. Smirk."

- Commander AWOL
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:19 PM
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13. K&R, gee I thought Osama was a black sheep and that al Qaeda...

was a rogue operation, but the Saudi Government may have been involved?!!! Next you'll be telling us that OPEC and Big Oil may profit from terrorism. (BTW, see my link below about the Bush Cabal).
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:16 PM
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14. So... when does the invasion of Saudi Arabia begin?
Now that there's incontrovertible evidence that the Saudis are harboring the terrorists that caused 9/11?

There's certainly more evidence here than any "meeting in Prague with a Saddam representative"
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:12 PM
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15. Condi to SF. Mayor Willie Brown, "stay off commercial airflights in september" ...
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:34 AM
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20. Did she really say that?
Nevermind, I believe you. Rice is guilty as hell.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:49 AM
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21. "Smirk." - Condi
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:13 PM
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16. Kick and Rec
:kick:
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:07 PM
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17. And in conclusion...

It’s interesting to compare the results of the 9/11 Commission with the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry that proceeded it. For instance, while the 9/11 Commission downplayed any possible ties between the hijackers and the Saudi government, the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry wrote an entire chapter on the topic. Unfortunately, all 28 pages of that chapter were censored. But Sen. Bob Graham, co-chair of the inquiry, later claimed that evidence relating to the two hijackers who lived in San Diego “presented a compelling case that there was Saudi assistance” to the 9/11 plot. He alleged that Omar al-Bayoumi in fact was a Saudi intelligence agent. He also concluded that President Bush directed the FBI “to restrain and obfuscate” investigations into these ties.

Now, we’re finally beginning to see some of what was in those missing 28 pages. One anonymous official who has seen the pages claims: “We’re not talking about rogue elements. We’re talking about a coordinated network that reaches right from the hijackers to multiple places in the Saudi government.”

The 9/11 Commission also downplayed the idea that the hijackers had any assistance in the US. The 9/11 Congressional Inquiry, by contrast, noted that many people who interacted with the hijackers in the US, including Omar al-Bayoumi, were under FBI investigation even before 9/11.

Unfortunately, neither the 9/11 Commission nor the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry was a complete and unbiased investigation. If this timeline reflects just some of what only the FBI knew about the hijackers one month after the attacks, one can only guess at how much more all the US agencies combined know about the hijackers now. Why is that information being kept secret?

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-423


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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 07:39 AM
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26. I'll take a stab at this.
Unfortunately, neither the 9/11 Commission nor the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry was a complete and unbiased investigation. If this timeline reflects just some of what only the FBI knew about the hijackers one month after the attacks, one can only guess at how much more all the US agencies combined know about the hijackers now. Why is that information being kept secret?.

It would reveal either, at best, criminal negligence and mind-boggling incompetence or, at worst, treason on the part of some members of the Bush administration.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:34 PM
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18. K&R
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:39 PM
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