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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:44 AM Original message |
Americans Getting Dumber? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. geo-politics |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. "Stupidity" is the proper term, and the title of the "must see" Movie |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Was Not Complaining |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's worse than that. It's "willfully dumber" as if using your intellect |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. "Anti-intellectualism" is seen a great deal here in Tennessee. Somehow, knowing things |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I am your compatriot on all counts. I look forward to the day where |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. Some people are hostile toward education. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. yes, they are... what can be done about it? Not much...ignorant people are like drunks |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. That is the truth |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. yep, it is the same in my hometown in NE |
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kedrys (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. Look at the educational system as a whole |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I disagree with part of your argument: |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You are absolutely right |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. "With the collapse of the economy, fewer parents can get involved because they are always working." |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. low-income parents are most involved at my school |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yep. I know the types. |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Not Completely Sure I agree |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. You make an excellent distinction: caring versus actual active involvement. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. I graduated from HS in the mid-1960s... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
23. I, too, must disagree with a part of your statement: |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. Turn off the television for starters |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. It's not a matter of dumber. It's a matter of accumulated knowledge. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
8. it is really sad but this is how we are viewed in other countries. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. as Ambrose Bierce once said |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. Absolutely |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
14. The majority of population growth is via unskilled/uneducated immigrants |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
15. In my lifetime, 30-40% of people used to read a newspaper |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
18. I don't like the word "dumber" - it suggests |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. i, too, call this WILLFUL IGNORANCE |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
20. Objectively: No |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. IQ can go up without knowledge going up. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The question is dumber not more ignorent |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
22. I don't see how Americans could possibly get any dumber. n/t |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
24. Put the weatherman on primetime news |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
25. Doesn't your 2nd question assume that the answer to the first is a given? |
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erpowers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yes, and Not Completely |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. well, when you consider that the catch-all for those who cannot afford private education |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
29. The problem with that is, the media WANTS us dumb. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. Not dumber - more are willfully ignorant |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I don't even know where to begin |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Every culture has their problems |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. I think it's simply a matter of intellectual priorities... |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
39. Americans have more to know than they did fifty years ago |
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KillCapitalism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
41. Failure to take the initiative to inform oneself is a big problem. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. I don't know anyone outside my family who |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
43. much dumber in many important areas--and it's intentional |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
44. For to you say what mean by that? nt |
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Florida22ndDistrict (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. re: Americans Getting Dumber? |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Not to be rude, but |
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Florida22ndDistrict (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. RE: Not to be rude, but |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Hmm - |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Nice save. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
49. I read that IQ's are going up, and that SAT scores are at an all-time high. |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
50. Back in 1990 or 1991, |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
54. No way, it's just easier to find dumb people now |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. The sad news is... more and more of them are showing up on DU. |
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