Yup. Gore's running.

[Guaranteed]

Another poster described his performance just now at the Oscars as "coy." That's exactly what it was.

Boy, is he running. No way he would have done that if he wasn't. As if it wasn't obvious enough already, though.

[RummyTheDummy]

1. I guess we're not watching the same program

I didn't get than sense at all. I'm not sure how one could draw such a conclusion.

[Guaranteed]

8. Why would he tease people that he's running if he really wasn't

running? I don't think he would do that even to gain attention for his global warming push.

It was a nice little joke. It was a hint, too, though. The guy is running as much as anyone was ever running, already.

[Subdivisions]

13. Exactly right!

[mconvente]

94. I sure hope so!

Here we go baby!

[RummyTheDummy]

15. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

NT

[sweetheart]

144. but at least we can smoke it..

..before it disappears. :smoke:

[Geezus]

28. He's probably running. Obama did the same kind of

coy things, and he's in. He'll let us know for sure though.

[FredStembottom]

159. Likewise, Al Franken........

[Orangepeel]

60. because it was funny?

:shrug:

Maybe he's running; maybe he's not. I tend to think not, but either way, this didn't mean anything. He could easily have done the same performance either way.

[Guaranteed]

68. It's not funny if he's not running.

That actually would really piss people off. That's the point.

If you're not running, you don't get halfway through the sentence of announcing, even as a joke. You don't mess with people like that.

[Ninja Jordan]

80. To me it's only funny if he ISN'T running.

Otherwise it looks goofy.

[Guaranteed]

85. If he isn't running, that means he's just fucking with people.

I don't think there's any precedent for that kind of "humor." People don't usually halfway announce their intention to run for President when they really aren't going to run at all, especially when it's only the fans that would be the butt of the joke.

[Ninja Jordan]

86. which is....funny

I think he's just having fun with the speculation.

[Guaranteed]

88. Yeah, maybe Andy Kaufman funny. Jerking-people-around funny.

Not VERY funny, though. Not very funny at all.

[immoderate]

84. That was my thought.

If he's really not running, he would say so.

--IMM

[Orangepeel]

89. I thought it was MORE funny if he's not running

but funny either way.

Many people would support Gore if he announced, including me, most likely. But very few people (if any) actually expected him to announce he was running tonight (even if he decides to). So, no harm, no foul.

I honestly don't see anything in this. Obviously, your mileage varies, but I think it was just a completely harmless joke.

[RestoreGore]

113. Because the obsession with it is now laughable n/t

[Guaranteed]

115. So, what you do with that obsession is play into it, right, when it's deluded?

I think any good psychologist would disagree with you, there.

Speaking of obsession, why do you always show up in Gore threads to announce that he's not running?

[RestoreGore]

118. Where did I announce that in this thread?

The movie just won an Oscar and all people with ONE TRACK MINDS like you can do is BE SELFISH regarding your precious political standing instead of giving him and the producers thanks for bringing this crisis to the world. And I can show up in any damned thread I choose, ESPECIALLY regarding him because I am HAPPY for this movie winning for the RIGHT REASONS.

[JNelson6563]

138. You're so wrong

Speaking of obsession, why do you always show up in Gore threads to announce that he's not running?

Your focus is too narrow. They actually jump in more often to disparage those hoping President Gore runs.

;-)

Julie

[RestoreGore]

148. Freedom of speech

Live with it. And I do not disparage him from doing anything. I ENCOURAGE him to continue his good work outside the BS beltway you obviously support, because it is making a difference. Shame that you don't appreciate that.

[earth mom]

168. And SHAME ON YOU for trying to silence Gore '08 supporters!

:puke:

[RestoreGore]

172. Yes, I'm just standing here with a gun pointed to your head

Some of you are simply ridiculous.

[ms liberty]

130. If you believe he would do that, then you don't know him as well as you think...

He knows that the people who want him to run feel that way because they care about our country and our planet deeply, and believe him to be the person best equipped to lead us forward into a future where our problems can be solved with creativity, vision, and ingenuity. Many of those people are long-time friends, colleagues, and supporters.

If he deliberately participated in that skit in order to stick it to those people, as you and others seem to be suggesting, then he is a person who is cruel and completely lacking in compassion for others.

That's not the Al Gore I've been following since the mid 80's. That's not the man I admire and respect.

[RestoreGore]

149. The MEDIA deserves no compassion

And I think some of you are carrying this WAY too far. He made a joke, people laughed, end of story.

[Harper_is_Bush]

116. why would he tease people that he's running if he really were?

He's not teasing anyone, btw. He's been quite clear that he cannot see ANY circumstance under which he would run.

He's been pretty clear on that.

[Guaranteed]

117. Because he wants people to keep talking about it.

Have you noticed how this thread has grown?

[dogday]

139. And why would he want people to talk about it?

Why even get people's hopes up an ounce if he has no intention? What purpose does it serve?

[RestoreGore]

150. It keeps global warming in the forefront

because God knows it wouldn't be if he didn't give people gossip and specualtion associated with it. These forums are living proof of it.

[GreenPartyVoter]

143. Has he lost any weight? Most pundits suggest that would be a key

clue to whether or not he has decided to run.

[rusty charly]

2. run, al, run

[Lone_Star_Dem]

3. That was what I said after I saw him.

He's not the type to play with people for no reason at all. I know it was scripted, but he didn't have to follow the script, yet he did...

[ms liberty]

131. I agree. If he wasn't thinking about it, or had decided against it definitively...

he would have nixed that skit as soon as he read it. He wouldn't do something like that which would be deliberately cruel.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

164. And easily seen as a tease that he may run

If he has ruled out running in 2008, and wants to be left alone about the issue, he'd not have made the joke.

[PresidentObama]

4. He's dangling it by a string to us, and teasing.

And boy are we begging. If he is running, he'll have my support 110%!!!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. If he's not running

Politicians need to be paying attention. This is some of the best political strategy I've ever seen. He's getting free press and none of the headaches associated with if he had already put his hat in the ring.

[PresidentObama]

17. I have no doubt he's in.

But you're right. Forget about calling Obama the rockstar, IT'S GORE!!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

25. More like superstar.

He has it all in the palm of his had if he wants to take it.

[PresidentObama]

29. He'll wipe the table clean.

Obama and Edwards, while wonderful, won't stand a chance. It'll be down to Hillary vs. Gore, and I'm confident he'd beat her by double digits and go onto the WH!!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

36. He'd win

Of that I'm confidant. He's hands down a favorite by many in the know and he has the benefit of name recognition.

[PresidentObama]

40. It's obvious he'd have the money and media appeal.

He'd have Hollywood money, big donors from his past, and of course the thousands upon thousands whom have spent eight years begging for him to run again!! Money would NOT be a problem. Nor would be getting the media behind it with all the hype he's gotten. Al Gore is the only candidate I can 110% bet WILL win in 2008!! And don't worry, if they try and cheat again he'd fight like hell. It's his for the taking!! Keep teasing us, Al!! It just makes us want you more.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

53. I've been wondering if there aren't some big money donors already in the know about this

If I were him, I'd have leaked this out to the right people to have them put their donations on hold. He has the connections to do just that, and it might explain some of reports that have drifted out stating he's running.

[Subdivisions]

19. Phenomenal political strategy. His charisma has skyrocketed and

he is VERY clever.

This is very exciting.

[Labors of Hercules]

26. IF he's planning this himself, he is even more BRILLIANT than I ever imagined!!

[Subdivisions]

35. He has said previously that if he ever again ran for President,

the consultants be damned, he would run on his terms only.

Edited to add: I'll try to find the source.

[PresidentObama]

50. He'd change the way people run races.

No more consultants in his ear, no more talking points. It's from the heart, and full throttle!!

Run Al, run!!

:patriot:

[NYCGirl]

92. You looking for this? I have it bookmarked:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/29/gore-retreat.htm

Al Gore told top Democratic fund-raisers Saturday that the party's 2000 campaign had too many consultants and that if he runs for president again he will speak from the heart and "let it rip."

[Labors of Hercules]

95. ah, NOW I'M SMILING!

[Tellurian]

96. ALs' Got his Oscar! BRAVO AL!

I think he's lost 5 lbs..a good sign-

[Lone_Star_Dem]

30. It is exciting

As I said, if he's not running politicians need to be taking notes. The way he's keeping us on the edge of our seats and keeping his "possible run" in the press is fantastic!

[PresidentObama]

31. Bravo Mr. Gore, bravo. Phenomenal, wow. n/t

[babylonsister]

5. Whatever he decides, his 'coyness' will keep everyone else who's running on

tenterhooks! :evilgrin:

[Subdivisions]

6. Coy and clever. That was a muted declaration of his future intentions.

[Warpy]

7. If he is, it's a good thing he knows better than to declare now

All those in the race will be crucified by the press for 18 solid months. They will all likely be mortally wounded by minor mistakes magnified by the GOP corporate press.

Vilsack already dropped out, citing low polling numbers and low contributions. I smell a rat, though.

[Guaranteed]

11. Absolutely. Let people know he's running, but don't declare.

That's how it's done.

Man. That guy is freakin' RUNNING!!

[tinfoilinfor2005]

32. Yeah, and meanwhile Timmy Russert can keep crucifying Clinton and Obama

thinking that he is destroying both of our top candidates. Very clever, President Gore... ;-)

[Scout1071]

160. It's very smart.

Let Hillary, Obama and Edwards beat themselves up for the next 6-8 months. In the meantime, he maintains a very positive and high profile role with the Oscar, hosting the worldwide concert for Climate Change on 7/7/07, and nomination for Nobel Peace Prize. Hillary and Obama continue to hit each other below the belt and Al's stock just keeps rising, all the while knowing the netroots will explode when he announces.

Personally, I'm not handing out a dollar towards the '08 election until Al declares. If he still hasn't by next Jan, then I will take a look at who's left and move from there.

Gore/Obama knocks it out of the park. I love Clark and Richardson for VP candidates, but they just don't have the star power of Obama. I would suggest that Wes Clark and Richardson would make a helluva Sec of State or Defense. They need to be involved in a big way with our diplomatic future.

[Rose Siding]

9. Could go either way but if so, that sure was a smart bit

He can refer to it in answers to questions about his intentions for weeks. I've always had a hunch that the later he gets in, the better. Now he can use this joke to stall off insatiable reporters.

[DesertRat]

10. I was thinking the same thing

:bounce:

[ThingsGottaChange]

14. What exactly was said? Never Mind, found the thread!!!

No TV here. Thanks!!!

[hlthe2b]

16. I think the opposite...

I think he enjoyed and probably encouraged the hype and speculation to build audience for the Oscars and to support many there who would showcase green and climate change issues.

BUt, no, I do not think he is running... Sad, but I just don't see it. (I surely wouldn't mind being wrong, however...)

[AZBlue]

64. I agree with you.

I don't think he'd make such a joke of it if he was. But, I could be wrong...and it wouldn't be a bad thing...

[Dying Eagle]

18. ......

I hope your right.

[Goblinmonger]

105. I think

I would have a tiny little orgasm if the dem ticket was Gore/Feingold. Hell, a big orgasm. Actually, I wish it were Feingold/Gore, but Feingold is a little too liberal to be the lead in a ticket, so I'd take VP.

[Dying Eagle]

142. I agree

Feingold would be my first choice but the DNC/DLC would never let him get that far in the Primary. Example: Howard Dean. Plus I doubt Gore would want to be second fiddle again for another 8 years. This would set up a nice Feingold in 2016 run. By then the country should be to the left where it belongs!!!!

[Hissyspit]

20. It was, in some ways, the same joke that Barack died on NFL.

And Barack certainly is running. But, again, that doesn't prove anything.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. I thought about that too

He's running.

[Hissyspit]

129. did, I mean, not died n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. My God Do Some Look Into Things Wayyyyyy Too Deeply.

[PresidentObama]

27. We like to dream. Run Al, run!! n/t

[Guaranteed]

33. Some people just choose to recognize what is staring them

dead in the face. :)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

44. And Yet Others Delude Themselves With Wishful Thinking.

:)

[Guaranteed]

52. What, you're just gonna repeat your previous post, now?

Nothing else to say?

Dude's running. What's your alternative explanation for what he did?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

65. ROFLMAO!!!!! Alternate Explanation? Gee, How Bout The Obvious One. It Was A Joke, And A Funny One

at that.

Nothing more. You are most definitely looking into this way too deeply. If you fail to see that, well I don't know what to tell ya. It was a joke set up obviously to play upon the pressure and expectations that he'd actually announce such a thing at the Oscars. That's what made it funny; the fact that he knows full well the pressure some are putting on him to do such a thing. This was his way of almost mocking the concept. Was a simple joke; simple as that.

Maybe somehow he will choose to enter the ring in the future. Personally, I find it highly unlikely based on everything he's said and done and I can't find any logical reason to believe that he has any desire to jump back into the poisonous pool of politics. What I do know, is that his joke tonight was not in any way some revealing act that shows a deeper intent on his part to signal that he's close to announcing his candidacy. To think so is most definitely looking into it way too deeply in my opinion, which is why I posted like I had. But think what you will.

[Guaranteed]

71. Well, if he's not running, I don't think what he did was funny at all.

Why would Al screw with me like that?

But it was funny- wasn't it?


Yup.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

81. "Why would Al screw with me like that?"

You can't be serious...

...Wait, you are? You're serious?

Oy vey.

[Ninja Jordan]

93. Agreed. Does Al talk to you through the TV or something? lol

He isn't "screwing with you," he's making a joke.

[liberalpress]

146. Mindcrime I'm sorry to butt in..

but i've been caught in this trap myself. SOme people who take themselves far to seriously have read far too much into a silly joke. You're right , of course, he's not running, but merely mocking the speculation. He said he wasn't running. I choose to believe him, some won't. BTW I thought the joke and his delivery was hysterical. This Al Gore would have won without the Supreme Court.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

154. Agreed Completely.

And Al has most definitely improved his delivery and charisma to exponential degrees. He just seems like a rockstar now when he's on camera!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

41. I'll put you on my list of people to apologize to when/if Gore endorses another candidate.

If I forget please send me a PM.

Until then, he's my choice and I will continue to hope he's going to deliver.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

55. I Fail To Find A Reason For You To Do So.

Personally, I'd love for him to run. I don't think he's going to and am of the opinion that he's so thoroughly disgusted with 'politics' itself that it would be a cold day in hell before he'd voluntarily put himself back in that arena, but I'd be clapping and cheering as much as any of you if he all of a sudden did announce such intentions. I just simply don't find any reason to believe such a thing will occur.

More importantly, for sake of this thread's premise, I most definitely didn't see anything at the Oscars other than him making a joke at expense of the obviousness of what people are expecting. It was completely innocent and benign from what I saw, and the last thing I got as a vibe was that it meant ANYTHING more than what it was. So that's why I responded to the OP as I had, because I did find it a bit funny that it was being looked into so deeply as to have some more intentful meaning.

But absolutely do I not require any 'apology' from you when you feel more confident he won't run. I can understand completely why until that time comes you would still be rooting for him to enter the ring and hope he'll deliver. As I was just watching with my wife I too smiled and yelled at the screen "come on Al, just do it!"

[Lone_Star_Dem]

67. Oh, I just had thought you were irritated by all the pro Al hype.

It could get irritating if one had another choice in their heart/head already listening to us cheer on a person that's not even committed himself to the race yet. I was simply trying to be keep that in mind and be polite.

If he's not running he's wasting one of the best presidential campaigns ever run.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

74. Nah, I Have No Real Choice Yet Really. To Early On In The Game In My Opinion.

I also have never really ever gotten too emotionally invested in the primaries. For me, the real emotions start after the primaries, when it is an all out effort to make sure the Democrat, WHOEVER it is, get elected.

[Subdivisions]

You'll eat those words soon enough. Hope he can count on

your support after he is nominated.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

59. There Will Be No Eating Of Words And I Find Your Tone And Premise To Be Quite Foolish.

Your entire post was needlessly bitter and sarcastic.

I love Al and would love him to run. Furthermore, WHOEVER is the nominee will have my full support, and I found the fact you even inquired in such a way to be quite foolish and silly.

My response is only to the notion that because of Al's lighthearted joke at the Oscars, which intentionally played upon the silliest of expectations that he would use the Oscars to announce, was actually deeper evidence of his intention to run. I think that's looking way too deeply into it and is quite silly on its face. It was just a joke that was quite funny. Nothing more.

[Guaranteed]

63. But people *weren't* expecting him to use the Oscars to announce.

Everyone knew that would be tacky. He was trying to *shock* people by actually getting halfway through the sentence and then getting cut off.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

70. You Can't Be Serious.

So many people are sitting there just HOPING, just HOPING that he would do such a thing. I have heard it mentioned quite a few times, including multiple times here. Maybe not an expectation, exactly, but more of an ideal or a deep hope that he would. He and those writing the material for the Oscars know full well the grass roots pressure to get him to run and his popularity, and they used that as the butt of a joke. It was a good joke. But that's all it was. Sorry.

[Guaranteed]

73. Yes, they were HOPING, but they weren't EXPECTING.

And your recognition of that hope of the people watching just goes to show you that he would not have done what he did if he was not running. He wouldn't mess with people's hopes if he wasn't going to run.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

77. Ummmmmm, Uhhhhhhh, Hmmmmmmmm. Ahhhhhhhh, Uhhhhhh, Ummmmmmm.

"he would not have done what he did if he was not running."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Sorry, but you are most DEFINITELY looking into this way too deeply.

[Subdivisions]

69. "Your entire post was needlessly bitter and sarcastic."

No it wasn't. I'm happy as hell and my post was a simple disagreement with your all-knowing and terse ""My God Do Some Look Into Things Wayyyyyy Too Deeply."

[Zorra]

66. Maybe, but RWers all over the country are changing their panties

after that "announcement".

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

78. Why?

It was obvious from the onset that it was a joke to not be taken seriously. I'm confused why you think RW'ers would be changing their panties.

[Subdivisions]

87. Why are you pissing on our parade? Don't you have something

else to do?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

90. Oh Get A Grip. I'm Replying To A Thread Topic. That Happens Here From Time To Time, If Ya Didn't

know.

And there is no parade honey, sorry.

[Zorra]

132. Remember John Kerry's joke about Bu*h? RWers missed his

point completely.

RWers are just, in general, too dense to get all but the most simple jokes....

[dogday]

141. My God Do Some Look Through Negative Colored Glasses...

But wait, shouldn't we be bowing to your obvious intellect and opinion? :sarcasm:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

153. Newsflash For Ya: Al Gore's Joke Was Just A Joke, Nothing More. It Was Not Some Deep Sign That

he's definitively running. To declare it such is most definitely an example of looking into things too deeply. That is not an example of looking through negative colored glasses. It is an example of stating the obvious in the face of a silly premise.

Now rest assured: 99.99% of all people watching his joke last night knew it was a lighthearted joke with no deeper intention and would agree, if aware of this thread, that its premise of the joke meaning he's definitely running is just plain silly. Now if you agree that his telling of the joke is some deep sign that showed he's definitely going to run, than I can't help you and lord knows you're entitled. But it isn't looking through negative colored glasses for me to find the declaration to be one of absurdity.

[dogday]

156. Chill out: I knew it was a joke, it was obvious.

People are hopeful that he will at some time enter the race...

I think they are entitled to that hope as nobody can predict the future....

I was trying to say you do not give people the room to hope....

Yours is the only opinion on the subject and that is that...

There are always two sides to a coin and a story....

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

157. Then Your Response Was Misguided.

Maybe you just wanted to chime in like the others and attack me just for sake of doing so. I dunno.

What I do know is that nowhere in my initial post did I take away anybody's 'hope' that he would every announce he's running. I too would love to see him do so at some point, though I personally do doubt it highly. But you say I did not give people the room for hope. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. My initial reply in this thread referenced one fucking thing only, and that was the premise in the OP that because he made the joke, that is now definitive proof that he's running. All I said was making that declaration was looking into things too deeply. Then all the pirahnas jumped in.

But don't tell me I sqaushed hope or anything else, cause that's a bunch of misguided bullshit. My reply in no way said he's never going to announce ever for any reason, despite the fact that you would like to imply such. It Just didn't fuckin happen. All I said was that the declaration in the OP is looking into things too deeply, and that the joke was just a joke and nothing more. And guess what, I'd say it to be HIGHLY likely that I'm right in saying so. So spare me your damn attack and insinuation that my saying so didn't leave any room to hope. What a bunch of bullshit that is.

[dogday]

165. Check your blood pressure

I am entitled to my opinion..

Sorry if it upsets you so badly...

You are very strong in your opinions as evidenced by your post...

Don't get so upset, I am not understanding a word you are saying...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

166. My Blood Pressure's Fine, Thanks. And No, You Do Not Have A Right To An Opinion That Attacks

another falsely. In fact, I don't know how for a second you could be ignorant enough to think that appropriate.

I thoroughly refuted your false assertion in your previous post and I find it hilarious that all you could do in return is offer further empty attack without any regard for the context of the refutation whatsoever. I have taken your 'opinion' and shown it to be nothing more than baseless attack without any merit. Now the respectful, intelligent and strong thing to do would be either to refute that or offer apology for attacking someone falsely to begin with. The weak and foolish thing to do would be to offer only empty non-contextual attacks in reply. I'm sad to see that you chose the latter, though admittedly I'm not very surprised. :hi:

[dogday]

167. You made a very negative statement

I said you looked through negative lenses, you went on a cursing tirade and then accuse me of attacking you... I have tried to keep the conversation civil.. And I am entitled to respond to your post with my opinion.. That's a fact jack....

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

170. No, I Didn't. You Can Keep Saying I Did, But I Didn't.

For your position to have any legitimacy whatsoever, I would've had to have stated in my initial response that there is no way Al is running so stop looking for signs. THAT would be negative towards hope. But that didn't occur, did it. No, it didn't Jack. In reality (try it, you'll like it) all I said was that Al's funny joke was just a joke and didn't give any additional insight into whether he's running or not. Now that's not a negative statement, jack, it's just a matter of fact deduction of reality. It doesn't imply Al won't run and it doesn't imply Al will. It just responds to the premise of there being any more reason to believe Al's running based on his joke by stating that it doesn't do anything for that argument one way or the other. Therefore, the statement isn't negative at all in terms of whether Al's running or not, it is in fact neutral.

So you can say my reply was negative all you want, but you'd be misguided. It wasn't negative one bit and was just a matter of fact reply to a notion that a meaningless joke had in fact some greater meaning. It didn't. It's not negative towards anything to say it didn't. It just is what it is.

Bye now. :hi:

[marmar]

22. He would be a nightmare for any Repug.....

Imagine any of them even trying to argue with him on energy independence or global warming? My only concern is that some corporate goons from say, Exxon, might try to end his candidacy "prematurely," ala RFK.

[Breeze54]

23. No he isn't.

He hasn't said he's running. He's said he's NOT running.

[Geezus]

34. Yeah and so did Obama, and he got drafted.

Just like Gore is gonna get drafted.

[Ninja Jordan]

45. Do you understand what 'drafted' means? Obama wasn't drafted.

[Guaranteed]

37. No, he said he has no intention of running.

And he just got through half of the sentence it takes to announce that someone IS running, on worldwide television.

[Labors of Hercules]

48. check the language... he's kept this question on his own timetable...

He's giving every indication of an incredibly well-envisioned strategy for becoming the next president. He knows the impetus is coming that will "call him" to run. He's refusing to commit as he patiently waits for it.

[Breeze54]

76. er...I fully understand what he was IMPLYING

but he's stated he's NOT running and he has NOT announced he IS running.

Them are the facts, Jack!

[Labors of Hercules]

91. not to confuse facts with facts, but...

He hasn't said he is "not going to run" nor has he said he is running. He has said he doesn't plan, has no intention and cannot foresee running. Exact words matter. He hasn't given a definite negative for a reason, and you can bet it aint so people will keep bothering him with the same irritating question day and night.

[Breeze54]

98. What more do you want? Seems pretty clear to me.

"He has said he doesn't plan, has no intention and cannot foresee running."

[Labors of Hercules]

123. the only thing clear is that these are noncommittal political nuance...

otherwise, why not say "I will not run""... It's easier, fewer words, and self explanatory...

Al doesn't say random shit just for the hell of it. He has a damned good reason.

[Kazak]

24. What did I miss?

What exactly makes you think he's running?

[Guaranteed]

39. His presentation at the Oscars. Boy, you gotta see this.

Dude is RUNNING.

It was a joke wherein he got halfway through announcing his intention to run, and the music cut him off.

[marlakay]

38. Do you think Bill would ask him not to run?

I have wondered about that...after working with Bill for 8 years that must be hard. And I heard he doesn't get along with Hillary, it must not be easy to think of fighting her and going against Bill.

[marmar]

43. I wonder what Gore's relationship with the Clintons is like now?

The post-2000 Gore seems to have left the DLC fold, and Clinton is DLC godfather. I just wonder.....

[Ninja Jordan]

42. You Gore folks never give up. I saw the exact opposite.

He clearly ISN'T running. He's making fun of the speculation at this point. I'm not sure a serious candidate would do that (although Obama mocked himself on MNF).

[Guaranteed]

47. Someone who ISN'T running would NOT get halfway through

the sentence of declaring with this kind of audience just to mess with people.

[marmar]

49. "I'm not sure a serious candidate would do that (although Obama mocked himself on MNF). "

Didn't you just kinda contradict yourself?

[Ninja Jordan]

51. True, but this seemed different. Like he isn't running.

[Guaranteed]

56. So, you're saying that this guy who ISN'T running is teasing people

to get them to think that he IS running- to what? To gain attention for global warming?

There are other ways to get attention for it. He would not have gone this far if he wasn't running. He WANTS people to be talking about whether he is running or not.

[Subdivisions]

61. Exactly. He's just created a buzz that will have his name and the

title of PRESIDENT in everyone's mouth for the immediate future.

[Ninja Jordan]

62. I think he's mocking the speculation.

[Labors of Hercules]

75. Either way, he's ditching the system.

AND IT'S WORKING! Whatever his goal is, whether it's the presidency or simply bolstering his cause, he is succeeding in SPADES!!

[halobeam]

79. We aren't speculators... we are people who are scared

we are people who are losing a war
we are people who are being robbed by our President NOW
we are people who are praying for him to run because he is decent and good and honest.
we are people who need to heal our planet
we are people who want our children to have the earth as we had it

and he KNOWS this. IMO, he would never mock us.

He would however tease us, until he pleased us.

Yeah, a joke is a joke... to a certain point.

This falling down country is just not one of them.

Just my opinion.

[smalll]

54. I'm with you -

This made me think it more likely Gore won't run. If he declares sometime in the future, Repubs would make jokes like, "Where's an orchestra when you need it?"

Also, while Gore looked good, I don't think he's slimmed down to a presidential weight yet.

[Guaranteed]

58. I thought he definitely looked slimmer than he had been. nt

[Labors of Hercules]

82. I don't think Al himself would do that.

dunno, it just seems contrary to his character.

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[elfin]

46. Although he made the joke to tweak the media, I just wish

the audience had given him a resounding standing O, lasting for 30 seconds -- or more. The cheers were great -- I wanted more.

[FogerRox]

72. Exactly what I thought, yes hes running

Oscar nominee
Nobel nominee
Democratic nominee

Kinda has a nice ring to it, huh?

[WinkyDink]

97. He's joking PRECISELY because he's NOT running. THAT makes the joke.

[Guaranteed]

101. That doesn't sound like a joke. That sounds like fucking with people's

hopes.

Now, if people had actually been EXPECTING him to announce, it might have been funny. But they weren't expecting- merely hoping.

[WinkyDink]

109. No, no, no. If I wisecrack about hitting you, and you KNOW I WON'T, you can laugh. If you're not

sure, 'tain't funny, McGee.
We are supposed to KNOW, from his own prior words, that Al is NOT running. Hence, he can joke about it.
People's hopes are not in his control.

[Labors of Hercules]

111. the word's were "don't you have an announcement to make?"

explain to me how that is a question that does not play to the humor of expectations?
It's like PAT on Saturday Night Live: It's funny because we're not supposed to know one way or the other!!

[SlowDownFast]

124. Exactly.

You get it.



:applause:

[WinkyDink]

152. Because I don't think Al Gore would treat his serious potential as a

Presidential candidate as an SNL skit.

Time will tell.

[liberal renegade]

99. Dream On!

[ourbluenation]

100. Gore/Clark 08!

[Breeze54]

102. Now there's a team that's NOT running!

:rofl:

[Guaranteed]

103. You're starting to sound a little wishful yourself.

You've sure said it enough times.

[Breeze54]

106. I am not wishful at all.

I can respond to more than one poster on DU.

Is that ok with you? :shrug:

[smalll]

171. lol

Tinkerbell/Flying Pigs 2008 - "You gotta BELIEVE!"

[fujiyama]

104. If he runs I'll support him

But it's up to him.

I don't think anything is obvious. If he was interested in running, I think he'd start hinting that he was. He's just messing around and having fun. He's got a great sense of humor.

[Guaranteed]

110. "I think he'd start hinting that he was."

He just said half of the words in front of a billion people. What else are you looking for as a hint?

[fujiyama]

133. And he's also said on many occassions

that he has no interest in getting back into elected politics again.

Look, I like him. I'd support him. I just think it's a waste of time and energy reading too much into his appearance at the award show. He is truly invested in making awareness of global warming his number one agenda for the time being - and being at the award show was another way to get the word out. PLus, with all the speculation about any potential run, he figured he could mess around.

I say it's impossible to tell whether he's running or not. He hasn't made any concrete steps toward running like forming an exploratory committee, so until then, I'm going to guess he's not terribly interested in getting in.

[Guaranteed]

107. Geez! I'm sorry. Al probably didn't want us to be talking this much about his

running for President when he halfway announced. Cuz he's not running- right? :eyes:

110 posts in an hour. Dangit, Al! Why did you say something like that when, in reality, you're, OF COURSE, really not running??? What the heck was he thinking? We've got other things to do.

[w4rma]

108. I agree.

:hi:

[RestoreGore]

112. I think he was mocking those who can't see how important this is

And boy did they deserve it.

[PhilipShore]

114. Orchestra drowns out Gore's 'announcement' at Academy Awards; Gore's documentary wins Oscar

Raw Story
February 25, 2007
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Orchestra_drowns_out_Gores_announcement_at_0225.html

(Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" wins best documentary)

Pressed by Best Actor nominee Leonardo DiCaprio to announce something important at the 79th Academy Awards on Sunday night, former Vice President Al Gore - an Oscar nominee himself for his hit global warming documentary - took a little too long to get to the 'kicker,' so the orchestra drowned him out.

Gore appeared as a special guest of DiCaprio's, who told the crowd that the Oscars had turned green, as he used the occasion to call on the US government to introduce legislation that would enforce a reduction of carbon emissions.

"Cleaner cars, energy efficient homes, and green building help reduce greenhouse gas emissions," DiCaprio said in a statement issued Sunday before the ceremony.

[Kurovski]

119. K&R, BullGooseLooney!

Keep hope and passion and enthusiasm alive. Keep it alive in the face of every bit of mockery, no matter how silly ANYONE says we are.

What in the fuck is so god-awful dreadful about being "silly" anyway? And why are some so invested in slashing others hopes? Not every moment and statement must needs be of deep import and backed by 20 links.

I think your instincts on this matter are pretty good. Gore is an awful flirt, ain't he? :-)

[Guaranteed]

120. Well, he sure got us talking about it.

Of course, he never would have expected that, would he have?

[Kurovski]

121. Right. He's a total innocent as regards the world around him.

;-)

Some however, do seem deeply invested in killing that talk, don't they?

[SlowDownFast]

126. Exactly Gore's intention, methinks.

How could he have expected anything different from that???

This is gonna be all over the news/blogs this week, and then some.

[SlowDownFast]

125. Couldn't have said it any better.

Thanks for sayin' it!

[JI7]

122. i disagree

but it's something i would love to end up being wrong about.

[mzmolly]

127. I hope so, but I thought that after his SNL performance in 03 as well.

And, he didn't. :(

[dysfunctional press]

128. it's WAAAAY too early to get in the race now, and he knows it.

let the 'front-runners' get torn up by each other and the media, until the public is sick of hearing their names.

Gore/Clark is my prediction, Gore/Obama or Edwards my fallback.

[bleever]

134. My gut agrees.

I hope we're all right.

[Warren DeMontague]

135. Run, Al, Run!

K&R.

[Doremus]

136. No doubt about it. He's running.

That's why you haven't heard him say the words "I am not going to run for president."

Always "no plans to," "not planning on it," "no intentions," etc.

[liberalpress]

147. Sadly..

THe reason I believe he's NOT running is that he realizes he can be more effective in selling the danger of Global warming as a private citizen.. No Congress to obstruct him, no war to end or of distractions to keep him off message. He really, as a private citizen can devote 100% of his time to the cause, something he absolutely could NOT do as Prexy. This is one reason I hope he's sincere about NOT running.... let's save the world first.

[OneBlueSky]

137. if he wasn't planning to get in, there's no way he'd keep speculation alive . . .

by doing that bit with Leo . . . he's planning to run, but he understands that timing is everything, and he's playing it perfectly, imo . . .

[malaise]

140. Check this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x291374

[mnhtnbb]

145. So much speculation that he'd announce at the Oscars--so he made a joke of it!

I think everyone here who sees that as indication he's running is just exhibiting wishful thinking.

[RestoreGore]

151. Bingo n/t

[Shine]

155. I agree....he was just showing his good sense of humour.

I still wish he'd run,though. :D

[Starbucks Anarchist]

158. Yep!

[NancyG]

161. I could tell from the beginning he was joking with us.

I'd love a Gore/Clark.

[WI_DEM]

162. I don't know how anybody can seriously say for sure "yeah, he's running"

I wish he would but I didn't really see it.

[LittleClarkie]

163. I hope so

That would simply my decision-making considerably.

[Hatchling]

169. For someone who's not running..

Gore is running one hell of a campaign! And he doesn't have to worry about equal exposure time for his opponents until he does announce.
:applause:

[Freddie Stubbs]

173. Or he was just having some fun