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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:36 PM
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Feingold Sets Up Republicans to Win 2 More Filibusters
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 01:44 PM by davidswanson
Senator Russ Feingold (D., Wisc.) is preparing to give the Republicans in the Senate two more opportunities next week to grandstand and filibuster in favor of the occupation of Iraq. They will, of course, do so; and they will, of course, win.

Feingold cannot possibly have any doubt of that as he introduces his bills. As far as I know, he's not even trying to get the House to pass the same things, since they're guaranteed not to pass the Senate.

One of Feingold's bills proposes a delayed partial beginning of a withdrawal from an occupation that the vast majority of Americans (not to mention Iraqis) want completely ended. The other asks Bush to produce a report on his strategy for accomplishing the mythic mission that he uses to justify that same occupation. Both bills are written in Bush-Cheney vocabulary, promoting the very ideas they are intended to oh-so-weakly oppose.

The first bill, "S . 2633 To provide for the safe redeployment of United States troops from Iraq," by Feingold, Reid, and Menendez, says "The President shall promptly transition the mission of the United States Armed Forces in Iraq to the limited and temporary purposes set forth in subsection (d)." That sounds good, of course, until you read subsection d.

The bill even says that Bush "shall commence the safe, phased redeployment from Iraq of members of the United States Armed Forces who are not essential to the limited and temporary purposes set forth in subsection (d). Such redeployment shall be carried out in a manner that protects the safety and security of the United States Armed Forces." And that sounds good until you read subsection d, and until you realize that redeployment means sending the troops elsewhere in the empire, and until you realize that Feingold is promoting the idea that withdrawal, rather than continued deployment, somehow endangers soldiers.

The bill also proposes, in its own wimpy way, to use the power of the purse: "Effective 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act and except as provided in subsection (d), no funds appropriated or otherwise made available under any provision of law may be obligated or expended to continue the deployment in Iraq of members of the United States Armed Forces." And that, too, sounds good until you read subsection d or realize that Bush and Cheney routinely misappropriate funds as they see fit, knowing full well that Congress will never impeach them for it. Also, bear in mind that 120 days from passing this would be the middle of next summer were it not guaranteed to be filibustered and guaranteed to be vetoed in the miraculous case that it overcame a filibuster. Remember, the point of this is to allow Democratic Senators to pretend to want to end the occupation of Iraq. The bill is worded to attract as many of them as possible.

So, what about subsection d? Here it is:

"The prohibition under subsection (c) shall not apply to the obligation or expenditure of funds for the following limited and temporary purposes:
(1) Conducting targeted operations, limited in duration and scope, against members of al Qaeda and affiliated international terrorist organizations.
(2) Providing security for personnel and infrastructure of the United States Government.
(3) Providing training to members of the Iraqi Security Forces who have not been involved in sectarian violence or in attacks upon the United States Armed Forces, provided that such training does not involve members of the United States Armed Forces taking part in combat operations or being embedded with Iraqi forces.
(4) Providing training, equipment, or other materiel to members of the United States Armed Forces to ensure, maintain, or improve their safety and security.
(5) Redeploying members of the United States Armed Forces from Iraq.

Of course, Senator Feingold thinks this is a smart bill to get a vote on. He thinks it'll attract more Democrats than last time, and maybe even some Republicans. And, if it doesn't actually become what passes for "law" these days, well, at least it's a step in the right direction. After all, what else can a senator possibly do? And aren't we all just filling time as respectably as we can until the new emperor ascends the thrown? Isn't there an election breathing down our necks a mere 10 months away?

Oh, I don't know, Senator, what COULD you POSSIBLY do? Maybe you could commit to FILIBUSTERING the next chunk of the funding that you claim to oppose!

Since when did filibustering become an exclusively Republican tool? Would it be uncouth to propose such a thing when your party is in the (just barely) majority? Well, you know what, Russ, it's uncouth to get your head and limbs ripped off by American weapons in Iraq too, but it happens every day. The stains just don't reach the carpeting of the U.S. Senate.

And you could still push your bills too, but you'd be understood to have much better motives in doing so.

Why do you think an unsuccessful filibuster would be so much more humiliating than an unsuccessful bill passage? Even PROPOSING bills in the era of the Unitary Executive and his Signing Statements makes you look like a chump, and you know it. And allowing the Republicans to win debate after debate after filibuster after filibuster does not make you or your beloved party look good. I'm sorry to be blunt, but - you know - people are dying.

Feingold's other doomed bill is "S . 2634 To require a report setting forth the global strategy of the United States to combat and defeat al Qaeda and its affiliates," by Feingold, Reid, and Menendez. It would "require a report setting forth the global strategy of the United States to combat and defeat al Qaeda and its affiliates." Since when does the United States need a global strategy to "defeat" a foreign terrorist group that has grown primarily as a result of U.S. efforts aimed or pretended to be aimed at "defeating" it? Well, I guess since it became possible for threats to the United States to be made in almost any country around the world. The report would include:

"(1) An analysis of the global threat posed by al Qaeda and its affiliates, including an assessment of the relative threat posed in particular regions or countries.
"(2) Recommendations regarding the distribution and deployment of United States military, intelligence, diplomatic, and other assets to meet the relative regional and country-specific threats described in paragraph (1).
"(3) Recommendations to ensure that the global deployment of United States military personnel and equipment best meets the threat identified in described in paragraph (1) and does not—
"(A) undermine the military readiness or homeland security of the United States;
"(B) require the deployment of reserve units more than once every four years, or of regular units more than once every two years; or
"(C) require further extensions of deployments of members of the United States Armed Forces."

This will go down in a fiery filibuster denouncing it as micromanaging the work of the fuhrer in chief. And, worse than that, the PEACE movement will lament its failure to pass.

WAKE UP, America. I miss you. The world misses you.

WAKE UP, Senator Feingold. You could be a hero tomorrow if you so choose.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 01:41 PM
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1. What in hell are your talking about?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:05 PM
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2. Yeah, but he may not get re-elected..............
......hopefully when the Dems retake the Presidency this fall they will also make BIG gains in the House & Senate and then we'll be rid of this bullshit.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:51 PM
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3. And hopefully when pigs sprout wings...
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 02:52 PM by Truth2Tell
they will restore the Constitution.

It would require a majority of anti-war, pro-Constitution Democrats in Congress to change the course of this country and be "rid of this bullshit" - not just a majority of Democrats. Or... it would just take 40 Senators willing to take a firm political stand and face down the Repiglicans with filibusters. American political reality doesn't bode well for either of those things - neither now nor after our precious elections.

Edit to add: Recommended, for what it's worth.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:23 PM
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4. Russ used to be my hero, but of late it seems ...
... that he's more interested in padding his resume ("lookit all these symbolic bills I authored") than fighting for principles and actually kicking some elephant ass.


Not sure what his deal is, lately. :shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:25 PM
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tripitaka Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:14 PM
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9. lone vote against Patriot Act = i love russ forever
It's the single most politically courageous and principled act I've seen in the Federal Gov in my entire life. Good/acceptable voting records are a dime a dozen, finding courage in DC though, when you come across it, you don't let go.

He'd have to shoot Harry Whittington in the face or something to change my love for him.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:24 PM
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6. I would not recommend this thread. Feingold may be acting in concert with other Democrats.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 05:26 PM by McCamy Taylor
Force Republicans to go on record now as either supporting or filibustering Democratic efforts to begin bringing the troops home in February 2008. At the same time, the House could be working on something entirely different, with more teeth---such as hearings on Cheney's no bid contracts with Halliburton, which I believe would be a very easy and very popular way to start an impeachment proceeding. With this kind of leverage, Republicans and the White House would then be forced to renegotiate on Iraq---which would do John "100 Years of War" McCain no good at all.

I seriously doubt that Feingold is working in a vacuum. Something is cooking. There has been a flurry of activity lately. The Dems are not going to tip their hand and let the Republicans know what it is, but we will be hearing lots and lots of anger and shouts and denunciations (even here at DU) as the GOP panics, since they are the ones most vulnerable this year.

I say give Feingold a chance and let's see where this is going.

Remember, the closer we get to the election, the less Republican Congressmen "win" when they stage filibusters about the war.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:06 PM
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8. I agree
Feingold has been in the trenches fighting for too long to up and turn around. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
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nikto Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:17 PM
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19. Damn good answer!
Hear Hear!

Make the repugs STAND on their platform of blood and money.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:44 PM
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7. Flush Russ
He's jumped the shark.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 07:24 PM
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10. I don't see anything wrong with these bills - sorry
:shrug:

If all of our reps acted like Feingold, we wouldn't even be in Iraq.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:23 PM
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11. I can't figure it out
Is Feingold one of teh Silent partners of teh Reich-wing or is he on our side.

Never mind - if I have to even ask that question.............
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:33 PM
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12. What would you suggest be done about the self-pandering, commie Feingold?
Should he be drawn and quartered?

What would you suggest, Komrade?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:41 PM
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13. Russ Feingold? Is there any democrat this place won't turn on? sickening.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:45 PM
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14. Seriously! WTF?!
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 09:46 PM by myrna minx
Feingold has been fighting in the trenches for us this whole time and people on this board will just turn on him in a moment. :eyes: On edit. this had 6 recs? Oh brother.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:48 PM
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15. i just give up, i swear to god no one is ever fucking pure enough.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:43 AM
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17. The Feingold attackers all have low post counts.
Just saying....:shrug:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:40 AM
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16. WTF?
At least he is trying.
At least he is introducing legislation.

You want he should lay down and DO NOTHING like the rest of Congress.

Is THAT the plan?

I prefer that he keep flinging as much shit as he can
muster. I only wish others were firing away with him.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:53 AM
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18. I didn't even read your post
the title was enough to let me know where you're coming from. Russ Feingold is a God to me--forever.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:36 PM
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20. i'm an atheist
it's hard
what we do is think for ourselves

BTW, here's a video of Feingold being asked to filibuster
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/31205

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:12 AM
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21. good idea...let`s beat up on the best dam senator the party has
in my opinion he`s setting up the republicans to filibuster a set of bills before the election. the fuhrer has 19% approval rating and by this summer no one will remember his name
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