And the absolutely clueless award goes to...

[Mythsaje]

Anyone stupid enough to vote Republican in the upcoming election!

If it's not enough to see the repercussions of seven years of basically unopposed Republican rule coming home to roost, then how about MORE war, MORE corporate corruption, MORE incompetent cronyism, more unlawful "rendition," more torture, and MORE bad intelligence heading forward into the foreseeable future?

McCain's such a pandering ass that he'd happily allow Cheney or whoever takes his place as the chief penis of the Republican Empire to stick his hand up his ass and play him the same way Dubya was played. Welcome BFEE Part II, Attack of the Dipshits.

This award goes DOUBLE for any alleged "Democrat" or self-proclaimed "Lefty" who dislikes either of the two possible nominees enough to vote for McCain as some sort of "protest." Can you REALLY be more stupid? Compared to anyone who does that, the average Repug is a fucking genius.

I don't particularly care for either one of them myself. Not in the least because so many of their supporters here have vied for the dubious honor of being the biggest possible boil on the ass of the Democratic Party. I don't like what these candidates have turned us into. Well, turned SOME of us into, at least.

Do I wish that others had been given a fair chance to attain that status? Hell, yes. I actually consider these two candidates the WORST of the field, the first ones who should have been eliminated. Dodd, Richardson, Kucinich, Edwards, and even Biden (who I have issues with myself) were far better candidates in my opinion, for whatever that's worth.

Regardless, I'd sooner vote for a rabid weasel than do ANYTHING to help the Republicans. That means I would not, ever, no matter WHO the Democratic candidate might be, vote third party or vote Republican. Never. In their worst moments, even the worst Dem is still a better choice than the likes of Magoo McCain, perhaps the most politically and historically myopic candidate in recent memory.

So, if you're whole approach is "if so-and-so wins, I'm NOT voting for him/her" I cheerfully invite you to take a long fucking walk off a short pier wearing concrete galoshes. These two are ones I would never have caucused for, or written one of my now-famous rants in support of, but I'll damn sure pull the lever (so to speak) for whichever of them wins the nomination. Maybe not cheerfully, but I'd pull it nevertheless.

Now there are bound to be those who, offended by what I'm saying, will declare that this post belongs in GDP rather than GD. I disagree, primarily because it isn't about the primaries at all. It's about the General Election and about putting a Dem in the White House. At this point it looks as though it'll probably be Obama. Even though his speeches do nothing for me, I can't help but think that he's a damn sight better than George Bush or Magoo McCain. Sue me.

And if a miracle should somehow occur and Senator Clinton gets the nod, the same thing goes for her. She's not my first choice. She's not even my fourth or fifth choice. But she's A choice, and a damn sight better than any Republican for a variety of reasons.

The fact is that we're forced to work with the tools we have, and do so under the ever-watchful eye and manipulative tentacles of the corporate media and Big Business. If those tools don't fit our hands quite the way we'd like, that's just the nature of the game. Until we come up with an effective way to steal their thunder, that's just the way it's going to be...like it or not.

The one thing I know for sure is that this country, this world, the human race, can't handle another four to eight years of Republican't rule. They're great at campaigning, and will do almost anything to win. But they can't govern worth a shit.

So I'm voting Dem no matter who it is. Even if I have to hold a gun to my head to force me to do so. Even my wife, who doesn't like Hillary in the least, would vote for her in the GE if that was the only reasonable non-Republican choice.

I just hope enough people see it that way to give us the majority come November. Anything else would be a disaster of monumental proportions.

We don't need any more disasters.

[JeffR]

1. Bravo!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[BlueJazz]

2. I happen to like both of our Candidates but if I couldn't stand either of them I'd....

..Rot in my grave before I'd vote for a Repug.

[Warpy]

4. Honey, I'd vote for the hairball my cat just hacked up

before I'd vote Republic. That's just how bad they are.

The country won't survive another one.

[yellowdogintexas]

5. good one and I so totally agree nt

[saigon68]

19. Its like voting for a bag used to give an enema

[NanceGreggs]

3. As always ...

... :applause:

[NastyRiffraff]

6. There's NO WAY I'd vote for a Republican, ever.

There's a lot I don't like about Obama, including his preachy style, but I'll vote for him over ANY Republican, without hesitation.

[Triana]

7. "cheif Penis of the Republican Empire"....

..."Attack of the Dipshits"

:rofl:

Seriously. I'd NEVER EVER vote for a damn Republican in protest or otherwise. Forget it. "not gonna happen" as bu$hit sr. would say.

[bellasgrams]

8. It would depend who was running. If BO wins the nom. it will

be the second time I actually can't vote for the dem. I voted for Kerry and held by nose. I didn't care for him but I thought he was capable. I voted for Gerald Ford instead of Jimmy Carter because I felt he didn't have the experience. But BO just worries me, I don't know who he will surround himself with. He doesn't have enough experience and after his wife's gaff she will be no help. I haven't liked what he's said nor the way he has used race to bad mouth the Clintons. I don't think race should have been an issue and I don't think it was for anyone but BO. I really don't know what I will do, if Hillary is out there's no other choice but McCain and I don't like him either.

[trthnd4jstc]

9. Barack Will be a Fine President.

We all have our Negatives. I personally would like to see a Presidential Council of 5 members, and a larger House of Representatives, but Barack Obama will be a better president than McCain. Please look at his website. I looked at Hillary's. I like Hillary. It is not easy to vote for someone you do not completely like, but imagine McCain as President. Do you wish for 4 more years of conservative policies. We are almost in a Depression! And, we may end up in one still. This economic crisis is caused by the Republicans enacting their policies. Their policies make the majority of people poorer, and make the wealthy even wealthier. Voting for McCain is like hurting oneself. It will do you no good. Good Luck, and I hope you find some good in Senator Obama.

[DCKit]

10. Mythsaje, you know I love you, so I'll give you some simple advice:

Pay more attention to the OTHER races and less to the sElection. You'll be a much happier person and, in the long run, a big win in the House and Senate - and every other race, down to the local level - is far more important than who gets to sit in the Awful/Offal Office.

The worst of all possible pResidents can do little damage without a complicit, collaborating House and Senate. It's up to us to make sure they don't have one.

[margotb822]

11. Those "alleged Democrats"

Are just trolls sent in here to make us think that the Democratic party is fractured. It's a pathetic Republican funded effort to try and dissuade the general population.

The thing is, their primary would be closer if they used a proportional delegate system. Oh, these people are morons!!

[Mythsaje]

12. I suppose that's certainly possible...

Which is one of the reasons I used the "alleged" caveat.

I just hope that the vast majority of trouble-makers ARE trolls. Heaven help us if they're NOT.

[margotb822]

13. They should be first on the list

to fight in McCain's 100 years of war!

[OneBlueSky]

14. frankly, it very likely won't matter one whit because . . .

it's not who votes that counts; it's who counts the votes . . .

[Behind the Aegis]

15. great "rant."

Although, I would have included in the list of the "clueless" are the ones who will write-in "Mickey Mouse (or some other loser)" as a form of "protest." Though, I personally think the aforementioned and the ""if so-and-so wins, I'm NOT voting for him/her"" groups are too fucking stupid to see the forest for the trees, but will be the first to bitch about the disaster the US has become.

[NM Independent]

16. Couldn't agree more...

...I've only been lurking here for a few months, but the degrade of late has been awe inspiring. I finally decided to find out if an independent would be welcome and start posting to add another voice of reason to the argument.

This is all just fodder for the conservitangs (hey...don't steal it...it's mine :-))

I made the mistake, before I was fully awakened, of voting for Nader in the 2004 election (don't kill me...let me explain). The availability of public financing funds (this has been my understanding...correct me if I'm wrong) to any up and coming parties is determined by votes rec'd in the previous election. I will not make that same mistake in such a crucial election year. I frankly don't believe Barack, and I hate Hillary, but I'll vote for either come Nov. What I would really like to see is Ron Paul and Al Gore (or insert your favorite viable candidate) on a 3rd & 4th ticket. McCain wouldn't have a prayer.

The last thread where I asked this died...I read in the forum rules that "democrats and progressives are welcome" OK, howabout disillusioned republicans that became centrists (say, oh, 10 years ago) and now wish to see an end to the two party system (by addition of 3rd/4th parties)? And, one other question, how many votes before I count (can rec or start a thread)...I thought this was a "democratic" website (kidding, I know it's because of the trolls)

[Hatchling]

17. I'm terrified the Repugs will win it this year.

My transgendered friend said if Hillary isn't chosen, he'll vote for McCain. I thought it was a joke. But he insisted. When I said what about the Supreme Court, Roe v. Wade he just said "Not my problem. Not my problem." I was shocked to my core.

When I was discussing the primary with someone in my ceramics class a woman broke into the conversation with great venom, "I could never vote for HIllary!" and proceeded to list her crimes against humanity.

Are these people nuts!?

Don't they realize how much danger they, personally, are in with a Republican in office, a woman and a LBGT? Both nearing reatirement age?

Hold my nose, threaten my own life, or eat the cat's hairball, I will be voting in November for anyone or thing that has the (D) by it's name.

[saigon68]

18. Kicking this thread awesome RANT