McCain "affair" doesn't smell right

[radfringe]

just slap the :tinfoilhat: on me, but this doesn't smell like an attack from the "librul" left to smear mccain

I know there's more to this than a typical roll in the hay scandal. However, it feels toooo "rovian" of a setup for it to have originated from the "librul" left

anyone else have the same sneaky feeling?

[Ian David]

1. If it was an attack from "The Left" it would have come after the GOP National Convention.

Since it came before the McCain nomination was a done-deal, I smell Karl Rove's fecal fingerprints all over it.

It's not to late for ClusterHuck '08.

[Virginia Dare]

32. Hucky was pretty clever in his statement yesterday I thought..

he dug the hole pretty deep for McCain. Called him out on "giving his word", when it was obviously a lie. I was pretty impressed.

[Drifter]

36. Or Mittens ...

Please Please Please, let Mittens get back in the race.
The ultimate Phlip Phlop.

"I am dedicated to becoming the president, right after I gave up, right after I was dedicated to becoming the president"

It even rolls of the tongue.

Cheers
Drifter

[bryant69]

2. actually i've seen a couple people speculate that it was to

knock McCain out so as to clear the way for a Romney Resurgence.

I don't agree - the timing is off; why release now, rather than earlier when Romney was still in the run?

Rather I think it's more likely that the official explanation is true; NY Times was working on this story, but wasn't sure they had enough (and the story in question is pretty meatless), but were pushed into publishing it by a story being worked on at the New Republic on the New York Times.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[snappyturtle]

7. Haven't you heard? It's a non-story now!

Morning Joe claimed such this morning! Move along. Nothing to see here.

[CTyankee]

18. But Andrea Mitchell didn't go along with him! She said we haven't heard

"the other shoe" fall yet. She's smart and she's been around the block. I think she knows the game is up, or will be up, and she doesn't want to be caught laughing it off...

[snappyturtle]

31. ew....missed that! thanks. The plot thickens! n/t

[jasmine621]

11. Don't think it will be for Romney but someone else.

Anything can happen between now and the GOP convention. I believe there is another candidate who will be drafted for the top of the ticket. Romney or someone else could be the bottom of the tickect but the GOP needs to offer a much better candidate that what they have offered so far if they hope to beat either Hillary or Obama. And if Gore or Edwards is drafted at the convention, the GOP can just hang it up. This is by far the most unpredictable primary for either side in my lifetime and I am 66.

[blondeatlast]

3. It's not an attack from either side. Sometimes things are what they are.

The RW Noise Machine hasn't a clue how to deal with this because it didn't come from the left.

All they can do is try to discredit the NYT and rally around the guy they were damning a few weeks ago.

Rove, et al isn't in on this. McCain's been a snake for 25 years--rumors of his affairs are common in AZ. He just finally got cought taking the money from a pretty girl who resembles his wife.

[YOY]

4. No, I feel it as well.

They were really quick to blame the "Librul Media" as well.

Liberal Media my ass...

[yurbud]

5. hadn't thought of it, but I could see it being a poison pill like the Bush air guard papers

and in that case, even though the papers were questioned, their content was ignored--because it was substantially correct.

In this case, if the affair turns out to be a red herring, they might try to use this incident to deflect ANY discussion of McCain's cozy relationships with lobbyists as Rachel Maddow on Air America has pointed out.

[Neshanic]

25. That is correct. They learned from the Rather incident.

[CJCRANE]

28. Yes

seems to be a fairly weak scandal to me. If McCain can brush this one off it will be an inoculation against future ethics scandals.

[yurbud]

30. it depends on whether MSM gets memo to start calling it ''old news,'' etc.

[Virginia Dare]

33. I don't think the NYT was as careless as CBS..

the claimed that they had nailed down their sources, plus they've got that guy Weaver on the record.

[Junkdrawer]

6. I smell Rove's "THEY'RE playing dirty politics" stench...

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-26.htm

The best way to rally they troops is a fake attack....

Say...how did we get into Iraq and Afghanistan again? :shrug:

[TwilightGardener]

8. No. Rove is not behind every bush and rock. I think McCain has

some enemies, within his own camp, that want to tarnish the straight-talking, ethical image he has cultivated with the press. They know he's a fraud, that he's as crooked as the rest--and now they're telling the world. The fact that it rallies the GOP to defend him--well, they don't have anyone to replace him that might win in November, so of course they will, for now. But this story will fester, and even though everyone is slamming the NYT now, they've certainly raised enough doubt about his character. I'm all kinds of happy about it. McCain won't be able to go after Obama now with quite the same self-righteousness that he's been displaying.

[Virginia Dare]

34. Certain power player repubs on K Street for instance..

they haven't forgiven and forgotten, I think this is coming from them. I think they dribbled out just enough for him to dig his hole and then the other shoe will drop.

[JackRiddler]

9. No, it's surely a set up...

An old Republican politician caught having an affair with a woman over 25, instead of a minor? Impossible.

[Drifter]

37. Yeah ... I think they are ...

happy to have a sexual scandal that involves woman !

Cheers
Drifter

[islandmkl]

10. the RW talkers are all pissed because if the NYT had put this story out months ago...

they think they wouldn't be stuck with Grandpa...truly a clusterf*** for them...the NYT COULD HAVE DONE THEM A FAVOR...go figure that all they can do is rail on the Times...

TooF***in'Bad...they say there is no meat in the story, but you know they would have found plenty of meat in it 3 months ago...

[rurallib]

12. There was ome illustrative part of the story - How McCain can be bought

by lobbyists. That needs to be played up.

[islandmkl]

16. hopefully, that is the future of this story

[blondeatlast]

17. That's the money part of the article and I wish more would read it.

He's so convinced of his moral purity he doesn't see that he's being influenced and this he's easy to buy.

If nothing else in the article, I wish DU would read the last two pages. That part nailed him.

[CK_John]

13. IMO, the NYT maybe sitting on a more damaging story, and this is to

discredit the NYT.

[B Calm]

14. I have always thought it stunk. Smells like the republican smear machine

to me too!

[Lex]

15. Yes, see this thread from the night the story broke:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2899227&mesg_id=2899227

[chelsea0011]

19. Repukes like to pass the blame around but Gary Hart would like

to differ with that opinion of it being the big,bad lib'rl media. It was the NYT that wasquestioning himabout his "affairs" when he pontificated to "follow him around". The Miami Herald was already working their own :affai" story and took his offer up and found Donna Rice, Gary Hart, and the boat Monkey Business. the rest his history. Newspapers cover stories and if repukes dislike the messenger tough break.

[AlCzervik]

20. no way imo was this from democrats, if dems had this kind of info i would hope

they'd wait until October to use it.

Sounds shitty right, sorry, no more taking the high road.

[Frustratedlady]

21. Could it be, "Here comes Jeb to save the day...."

Think of their dilemma. They have all that information in the WH/Deep Hole they won't release to the petitioners (Leahy, Conyers, etc.), so what's the first thing the Dems are going to do if they get in the door? You've got it.

There aren't enough shredders to clean up that mess. They MUST have a Pug sitting in the WH and what better Pug than Jeb? Let's keep it in the family...don't show your dirty laundry in public.

[Me.]

23. Hah!

I'm going to say the great minds thing here.

[Me.]

22. Good God, Don't Tell Me

They're thinking of knocking out their only 'viable' candidate so that at the last minute Jeb can come in to save the day?

[Neshanic]

24. It sure did get the responses they needed. Mass rage against the Times.

[dysfunctional press]

26. when this thread appears right after the one about mcain playing "stinkfinger"...

it adds a whole new level to it...:rofl:

[fascisthunter]

27. There is No Mainstream "Left" Media....

the media is corporate :shrug:

[radfringe]

29. sorry if all I have are questions

if more comes out beyond the 'affair'.. and it alleges mccain is a pocket politican and this explodes into a full blown OMG scandal

If it does before the GOP convention - what will it mean for the GOP nomination? huckabee by default? or sneak in romney?

what about after? will mccain be spending all his loot defending himself? step aside as the nominee?

[MiniMe]

35. Well, McCain just got caught in a lie by Newsweek

Newsweek is reporting that McCain testified in a deposition five years ago that he personally spoke with the CEO of Paxson Communications regarding Paxson's business before the FCC. This flatly contradicts McCain's denial yesterday that he'd had any contact with Paxson or his representatives regarding the matter.


From another DU thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2908268

[Dinger]

38. I Think It Came From huckabee

So does my mom, and she's one smart lady.

[Cronus Protagonist]

39. the religious right and the fiscal conservatives are at odds

Each side is trying to scupper the other side's candidate.