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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:10 PM
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Nader to discuss election plans ~ Associated Press
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080222/ap_on_el_pr/nader">YAHOO - AP

WASHINGTON - Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential campaign.

The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday. Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.

A spokesman for Nader did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Kevin Zeese, who was Nader's spokesman during the 2004 presidential race, but is no longer working for him, said Friday that Nader has been actively talking to "lots of people on all sorts of levels" about the possibility of making another run.


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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:34 PM
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1. boy, that would sure make things interesting. What a mess, it could be.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:40 PM
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3. I have no idea what he's trying to accomplish? It's become almost pathetic.
No, make that totally pathetic.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:39 PM
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2. 4th time around
Whatever, Mr. Nader.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:42 PM
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4. Is Nader on the GOP payroll?
Jeebus! What an ass.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:43 PM
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5. Yes, considering they contributed to his previous "runs" with both time and money.
:puke:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:25 PM
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30. When hasn't he been on the GOP payroll, should be the question.
:shrug:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:43 PM
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6. He doesn't realize his 15 minutes are over...?
The times have changed.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:18 PM
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19. I think we should send Nader to the moon. Keep him there for 15 years.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:50 PM
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7. Ron Paul running as an independent
now THAT could effect the election.

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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 12:54 PM
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8. Dems may be in for a surprise
Many on the left who have been voting the dem ticket, may not do it this time around. They are really pissed at the party for forcing Kucinich and Edwards out. The dems wanted a historic race, and damn the American people. The left got a dose of what the dems really think of them, and they aren't happy, and they won't be pounding the streets for the election.

Nader is being vindicated on his "dimes worth of difference", as we have 2 corporate candidates running on the dem ticket. And, when you put that together with the spineless dems in the Senate and Congress, Nader is starting to look like a truth teller.

zalinda
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:02 PM
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9. Neither Edwards or Kucinich was "forced" out, they lost.
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 01:03 PM by mzmolly
I say this as an Edwards supporter who intends to support the nominee.

Nader, vindicated? Are you kidding me? You're telling me that Bush = Gore?

The dems wanted a historic race, and damn the American people.

I hate to point this out but Democrats are "American people". The American people decided who would be the Democratic nominee and it is between Obama and Clinton at this point. I believe both candidates were chosen by voters on their merits.



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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:23 PM
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10. The dem bigwigs are NOT the American people
And Kucinich was forced out by the dem committee in his district, by them supporting people to run against him. I never thought he had a chance in hell of winning, but the dem party members wanted him out.

As for Edwards, he was paid a visit by the bigwigs in the party. He was ready to go into Super Tuesday, people had been moved, buildings rented, signs bought all done just a day before his announcement. Within 2 days, he did an about face, and there are people within his campaign who have been leaking a little bit here and there on what was going on. None of it favorable to the dem party.

zalinda
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:30 PM
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11. absolutely!
and where were the front runners when NBC broke it's word and axed Kucinich from the debate?
They were silent because Dennis spoke about issues they didn't want to touch, including impeachment.

NO they are NOT the American people,
that is a joke!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:56 PM
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13. We had over 200 people run for the Democratic Nomination in 2004
share with me why Dennis should have been included in the debate vs. the others who ran for office given he was a blip on the voting radar screen? Why didn't Dennis demand that ALL candidates be given a voice?

C'mon guys, at some point we have to be reasonable.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:10 PM
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14.  NBC Blocks Kucinich From Debate
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011408R.shtml


NBC Blocks Kucinich From Debate
By Christopher Kutruff
t r u t h o u t | Report

Monday 14 January 2008

Two days after inviting Dennis Kucinich to Tuesday's January 15 presidential debates, NBC decided to change its previously announced criteria and exclude the Ohio congressman.

Friday morning, NBC political director Chuck Todd informed the Kucinich campaign that NBC would be "re-doing" the criteria for the debates and only Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards would be included.

Representative Kucinich said he had met the previous qualifications by ranking fourth in several national polls including a January 4-6 USA Today/Gallup poll.

In a Wednesday, January 9, email to the Kucinich campaign, NBC Democratic Party debates consultant Jenny Backus wrote, "Congratulations on another hard-fought contest. Now that New Hampshire is over, we are on to Nevada and our Presidential Debate on Tuesday, January 15. This letter serves as an official invitation for your candidate to participate in the Nevada Presidential Debate at Cashman Theatre in downtown Las Vegas. You have met the criteria set by NBC and the Debate."

The Kucinich campaign filed an emergency complaint earlier with the Federal Communications Commission for being excluded from ABC's coverage of the debates. The congressman said he is considering similar legal action against NBC for its policy reversal.

Despite his long-shot status, Kucinich continues to attract an audience on the campaign trail, which he attributes to "the emerging culture of information technology that's Internet-based. And the other one is the more conventional TV technology which is coming to a clash. And I think they reflect some political trends in this country that maybe aren't getting too much attention. But they are going to have an impact," according to recent comments Kucinich made during an interview with newsman Bill Moyers.

In a recent Democracy for America online survey, Kucinich ranked first with about 32 percent of the vote. The survey, which was not a scientific poll, attracted about 150,000 participants.

Kucinich won the December 23 Virginia Democratic Party's online presidential straw poll, eclipsing Hillary Clinton and gaining about a third of the votes. He has also came out on top of a Washington State straw poll. But despite these signs of momentum, major networks have maintained a separate focus - limiting Kucinich's exposure.

..more..
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:19 PM
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15. Along with several other potential nominees without a chance in hell.
Kucinich got press though, good for him.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:25 PM
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16. guess you didn't read the article
"NBC decided to change its previously announced criteria and exclude the Ohio congressman."

(after sending him an invitation)

:shrug:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 06:34 PM
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17. Honestly, I've seen about 100 threads noting this over the past few months.
I am glad they narrowed the field.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:02 PM
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18. well that is what I was talking about in my original post
NBC!!!

thanks for wasting my time
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:21 PM
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22. Your time wasn't wasted.
I appreciated your attempt to inform and educate.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 01:37 PM
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12. The "dem bigwigs" did not vote in the primary elections. Kucinich was pulling about 1%
it's called losing. As for Edwards, he made up his own mind. To suggest that "dem big wigs" carrying clubs paid visits and essentially threatened to break knee caps is absurd. Edwards knew he wasn't going to win, he dropped out. It happens. People need money to win elections, and they need wins to raise money. Edwards lost his home state and realized it was over for him.

Thankfully though, for the fool known as Nader - he can count on his Republican backers to fund his campaign once again.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:45 PM
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25. Thank you. Exactly
I supported Biden or Dodd earlier on. Not enough others did. That's the way it works.

No one should kid themselves. Ralph isn't a champion on a white steed. Ralph is in this for Ralph. He must feed his outsized ego, and the public attention he gets when he runs does that for him.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:21 PM
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20. Being a "mental midget" and all
I blame that MOTHER FUCKER for all of our problems. Only because of his "neigher are different"...may he blow out the muffler of his last sanctioned car! He sucks!
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 07:36 PM
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21. Aw geez


What a pathetic, opportunistic, egotistical, divisive, douchebag bastard.

We are royally, supremely hosed.

Say hello to President McCain.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:32 PM
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23. "We are royally, supremely hosed." Why? If the Dems have what people want, why should you worry? nt
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:20 PM
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27. Why should I worry?!
Really?!

New in town, are you?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:43 PM
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24. He's like a persistent mosquito
Go away, Ralph.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:21 PM
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28. I was thinking more of "recurrent hemorrhoid".
nm
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:22 PM
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29. LOL. You win! nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:56 PM
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26. looking for attention, but he becomes
more irrelevent every 4 years.

why didn't he run against lieberman in Connecticut ?

i would think he would want to repair his legacy and not be remember as the guy who helped Bush get in office. yeah, i know people are going to make excuses.

it's not only Dems that voted for Nader. it's Dems and others who voted for Bush because Nader claimed Gore and Bush were alike so they thought Bush wasn't so bad or as right wing.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:30 PM
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31. It's time for Ralph Nader to change his approach to politics
and perhaps take a page out of Al Gore's book - maybe he should adopt an issue similar in importance to global warming. Maybe... election reform - cause dog knows that's needed. He's definitely wasting our time and his if he chooses to expend all that energy and intelligence on another third party presidential race.
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