The American Social Breakdown

[NavyVet07]

Here in America the society of Americans is one of not only arrogance but of futility. Is there a structure that we have that doesn't require constant shoring and maintenance from the government in order to feebly stand? The answer to that question is sadly no.

Most striking of all policies is that imposed on the private family structure in America. The glamorization of either preteen pregnancies or single parenthood is in the genesis of providing the nation with a burden. The nuclear family has been facing attacks since the 70's to degenerate and break down into multitudes of "illegitimate relationships". This is certainly frightening, based on the concept of human, if not animal nature.

Humans are meant to have a pillar of strength and one of nurturing which lies both within the mother and the father. Without one, a child has a higher potential of dysfunctional behavior while the primary caregiver is placed in a position of an overwhelming economic, social and physical burden. The math, therefore is simple. The more we strain ourselves with splintered families, the worse the nation will cave around itself.

These problems can be solved by not only educating the children, but also the family as a whole. The role of the parent has been diminished through the decades due to many reasons. Since we have either been voided of the responsibility of parenthood or quite simply desensitized, it would be prudent to train future parents on the responsibilities of child rearing and teaching the path of a responsible adult.

I've always been a firm advocate in beginning a strong family and nation from within the home. If we produce strong, intelligent children then they have some of the strongest most prolific traits any man or woman can inherit. However, if we rely on children to raise themselves then we should expect nothing less than a regression into feral beings.

[wuushew]

1. Boy are you in the wrong place

n/t

[TahitiNut]

6. Indeed.

Making a paper chain of assertions, each based on the thinly-disguised presumption of the very claim presented as a 'conclusion' is sophistry. Sheer sophistry decorated with pedantic cliches.

[Jim Sagle]

29. Even Free Republic would ban this guy. He's almost in Stormfront territory.

[ecstatic]

41. Am I missing something? What's wrong with strong families?

:shrug: Help me out-- maybe I missed a few code words. I'm up pretty early for a Saturday, so that might be it.

[immoderate]

48. Nothing, if you are from a strong family, but...

If you're not from one of those idealized families, does that mean you are destined for "regression to feral beings?"

--IMM

[bluedawg12]

56. Here's the code broken down>>>

>>Here in America the society of Americans is one of not only arrogance but of futility.<<

Unfounded opinion and vague.

>> Is there a structure that we have that doesn't require constant shoring and maintenance from the government in order to feebly stand? The answer to that question is sadly no.<<

WTF does that have to do anything that follows?

>>Most striking of all policies is that imposed on the private family structure in America.<<

Imposed by whom? The left wing media? By progressives? By the so called, “ga agenda” to over throw the world?

Yep- here it comes!


>>The glamorization of either preteen pregnancies or single parenthood is in the genesis of providing the nation with a burden. <<

Glamorizes teen age pregnancy?

Right, it all started wit Nabokov.

The “genesis” hmmm........ if that’s not code, I’ll eat my copy of the eugenics guide for beginners :sarcasm:

>>The nuclear family has been facing attacks since the 70's to degenerate and break down into multitudes of "illegitimate relationships". <<

What would those illegitimate relationships be? Never quite say does s/he?

>>This is certainly frightening, based on the concept of human, if not animal nature.<<

Ah...human nature is not monogamous- that’s man imposed- this must be an anti gay screed.

>>Humans are meant to have a pillar of strength and one of nurturing which lies both within the mother and the father. <<

Yeah, humans are meant to have a pillar of strength - as in what does that mean??

>>Without one, a child has a higher potential of dysfunctional behavior while the primary caregiver is placed in a position of an overwhelming economic, social and physical burden. <<

This is pure RW dogma reinterpreted by someone rather poorly. Nxt tiem at least clip and paste the propaganda you paraphrase.

>>The math, therefore is simple. The more we strain ourselves with splintered families, the worse the nation will cave around itself.<<

Then fix the nuclear family from within and stopping blaming society, the media, gays and other outside forces.

>>These problems can be solved by not only educating the children, but also the family as a whole.<<

Will thre be no one to speak for family values? Where has the OP been for the last 20 years with the rise of the religious RW using family values as a rallying call and gays as scape goats?

Isn’t that what has been happening...uh..forever-?

Preaching about the need for a strong family?

Who is stopping that now? No one.


>>The role of the parent has been diminished through the decades due to many reasons.<<
Ghaaaa..it would be too much to pray for a least one example.

>>Since we have either been voided of the responsibility of parenthood or quite simply desensitized, it would be prudent to train future parents on the responsibilities of child rearing and teaching the path of a responsible adult.<<

How do we get “voided of responsibility?”


It sounds awkward in construct but the OP is trying to use a passive voice as if good God fearing families have “had something taken away from them against their will.”

Take responsibility for your family- that’s family values.

>>I've always been a firm advocate in beginning a strong family and nation from within the home.<<

Never heard that before. Thank you.

How does a strong nation fit within the home? Must be a really large home.

But even if the strong nation did fit within the home- then, by all means teach this to your family... as I will, to mine..with your half baked sermon.

>>If we produce strong, intelligent children then they have some of the strongest most prolific traits any man or woman can inherit. <<

How does one inherit prolific traits?

The heart ache of seeing eugenics fall by the way side, as a social good.

>>However, if we rely on children to raise themselves then we should expect nothing less than a regression into feral beings.<<

An here I thought it was Democratic party platform to abandon kids to raise themselves.
Thank you, I am enlightened.

I guess I’d better hang up my “let kids raise themselves” activist placard.
Straw man.
Bull sh*t and whiney.

I love the word “feral” because, of course, progressives want nothing less than to destroy the nuclear family and raise feral children.

Hey, I have an idea!

Let’s vote for a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage!

That will save the families from the war against families, waged by liberals!!!

RW fundy crap- old and rehashed.

[ecstatic]

71. Thanks!

I didn't catch all those cues before but you're absolutely right!

[pocoloco]

2. what are

"illegitimate relationships"???

[gateley]

3. What wuushew said. nt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

4. Dan Quayle, is that you? (n/t)

[Batgirl]

5. "The nuclear family has been facing attacks"???!!!

"Since the 70's" you say? Which have caused it to "break down into multitudes of 'illegitimate relationships"!!????!!??

Well that's just great. I just drank my last bottle of Y2K water,

[Wiley50]

9. You had a successful first thread (Sorry, this reply is to the OP, not you batgirl)

but you certainly bit the dust, if not the granite on #2

What the fuck is an illegitimate relationship?

The kind that produces illegitimate children?

sorry, but there's no such thing as a legitimate child

If you're here, you are legitimate as any of us

Thumbs down on this one!

[lips]

7. Not here to bash but your sentences begin to many words...

that show definitive relationships that don't truly define the situation your describing.

Despite this, I agree with your sentiments.

[bluedawg12]

69. The you agree with RW pro-family values?

and all their lies?

You agree that families are under attack by the media? By liberals?

check this out:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612140004
>>Thu, Dec 14, 2006 4:12pm ET
Send to a friend Print Version
Experts say Dobson's Time column distorted their research to denounce same-sex parents

Psychologist Carol Gilligan and Dr. Kyle Pruett, the two researchers cited by Focus on the Family chairman James C. Dobson in his December 12 (previously dated December 10) Time magazine guest column arguing that same-sex parenting is harmful to children, have both accused Dobson of misusing their research. As Media Matters for America previously noted, Dobson made unfounded assertions in the column about gay and lesbian parenting while appearing to distort "social-science evidence" to claim "that children do best on every measure of well-being when raised by their married mother and father."



<<

[Karenina]

80. He waved his "military" cock around to garner support

then slammed it down on the table with this shit. A stump is all he has left. :evilgrin:

[snot]

8. So you must believe

that men should play a strong, equal role in child-rearing and that both parents should be actively encouraged to take many months of parental leave, along the lines common in Europe, with government playing a strong role in making sure that excellent-quality, affordable childcare is readily available to all?

Or perhaps you believe government should adopt policies designed to encourage a sitch where at least a significant majority of families should be able to make it on one income or on two part-time incomes?

Because our gov't sure isn't doing that now.

[Canuckistanian]

10. Take a break

You've got a successful post, rising up the Greatest Page.

Now, reflect for a while and THINK about what you want to say next.

Hone it down to a basic message. THEN post.

[xchrom]

11. ...

:rofl:

[tularetom]

12. Did you learn that from pastor Billy bob down at the local megachurch?

Or have you even given a thought to the reasons behind the disintegration of the Amurkin family unit?

[bluedawg12]

65. He got it from here almost verbatim:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612140004

>>Psychologist Carol Gilligan and Dr. Kyle Pruett, the two researchers cited by Focus on the Family chairman James C. Dobson in his December 12 (previously dated December 10) Time magazine guest column arguing that same-sex parenting is harmful to children, have both accused Dobson of misusing their research. As Media Matters for America previously noted, Dobson made unfounded assertions in the column about gay and lesbian parenting while appearing to distort "social-science evidence" to claim "that children do best on every measure of well-being when raised by their married mother and father." <<

[tularetom]

68. AHA! Good ol' Rev. Beat your dog and show your penis to your kid

Why did I not smell his stink in there? Must be slipping.

[bluedawg12]

78. You nailed it- dog beating trash

bragged about it in his book. That's the one.

[RainDog]

13. The way we never were

http://www.stephaniecoontz.com/books/thewayweneverwere/

This myth-shattering examination of two centuries of American family life banishes the misconceptions about the past that cloud current debate about "family values."

...Without minimizing the serious new problems in American families, Coontz warns that a consoling nostalgia for a largely mythical past of "traditional values" is a trap that can only cripple our capacity to solve today's problems. From "a man's home was his castle" to "traditional families never asked for a handout," this provocative book explodes cherished illusions about the past.

Fascinating facts abound: In the nineteenth century, the age of sexual consent in some states was nine or ten, and alcoholism and drug abuse were more rampant than today ... Teenage childbearing peaked in the fabulous family-oriented 1950s ... Marriages in pioneer days lasted a shorter time than they do now.


In other words, you are wrong to associate the breakdown of the family with the rise of feminism and civil rights (i.e. the 1970s). However, I absolutely agree that families are under tremendous pressure because of republican economic policies and a move from Kennedy's call for "unemployment insurance for the elderly." -as an example of the regressive nature of American political pinheads on the right. At the time, republicans said such a policy was too inflationary, that it was a terrible thing to do, while Kennedy asked why a person should need to go bankrupt in this country to care for a parent and their children. Indeed, why? Why is America the only western democracy that does not meet a basic level of human rights for its citizens - why do Canada and France and Germany treat their citizens better than the American govt. treats people here? Kennedy asked this question at the beginning of the 1960s. Why are we STILL so backward in our treatment of citizens here? Why?

Why do people who truly need them go without medications because they are too expensive?

Why is the rate of suicide so high at this moment among the middle class? (and among every conservative administration.)

Why do we have a govt that is fundamentally broken? Because our so-called representatives and executive are owned by oil cos and pharma cos and weapons cos? Why is the difference in pay obscenely high b/t CEO and worker - the greatest diff in any western democracy, again... a situation that is akin to a slave-owning society, not a democracy.

These are realities, but your view of the cause and the issues are not reality. Quit blaming the people of this nation who try to do the right thing when their govt tries to make their lives worse b/c of the greed of less than 10% of the entire population.

First deal with the bullshit that passes for govt and then talk about families. Families are stressed. Fucking stressed, and it's not because they are so flippant about their existence. Quite the contrary.

[devilgrrl]

17. K & R!

Best post ever! :applause:

[NMMNG]

32. You mean "Leave it to Beaver" was just a fictional TV show?

Say it isn't so! :cry:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

44. lol! When reading the OP I got the distinct feeling that he watched too much TV Land.

I grew up with Leave It To Beaver and Father Knows Best, and boy was that propaganda. Just like the propaganda that we are the "greatest" country on the planet. All illusion which leads the populace to disillusion and to some, like the OP, to delusion.

[NMMNG]

79. The RRRW seems to have the impression that

shows like "Leave it to Beaver", or at least what they depicted, were reality. You'll hear them forever lamenting the way we've lost "the good old days" and the way things have gone to hell since we took God out of the schools, etc, etc. But teen pregnancy, bratty children, "juvenile delinquents", marital difficulties/divorce, drugs and all of those things existed even back in "the good old days". People just didn't talk about them or show them on TV as openly as they do now.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

86. Even before those "good old days"...my father's father left the family in the 1930's

leaving my Dad, age 12 having to leave school so he could support his mother and sister.

My mom's family was dysfunctional, with a bullying father (although I loved him dearly) and a forever depressed mother. They wound up separating. My grandfather would live between our home and my aunt's home.

My own parents tried the "American dream" and we lived in the suburbia of Leave It To Beaver. My dad made a good living, my mom stayed at home, but the talk of divorce and separation went on through my childhood to adulthood. After 60+ years of marriage, my Mom in her early 80s became delusional, and tried to kill my Father with a cast iron skillet. He almost died. She got her wish of leaving him, and is now in a nursing home due to schizophrenia. My dad died about a year afterwards. I think from a broken heart.

There are similar stories regarding friends and their families back in those "good old days"..just remembered a great one! In the late 50s in Beaverville, a few of my brother's upper middle class buddies (all with nuclear families intact), stole cars and broke into houses. Cute.....

And so forth and so on......

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

43. Excellent post RainDog and deserves a thread of its own. nt

[RainDog]

46. thanks for the kind words, sistas n/t

[annabanana]

66. This is an excellent, insightful post. I hope the OP reads this, goes

to the link and reads that, licks his wounds, learns something and tries again.

[marlin thomas]

84. The way we never were / perceptions and parallax

Dear Raindog, I am in rampant agreement with you. So many
people keep expecting actions from 'the government' as if we
actually had one... we do have our big stage production
complete with executive branch, legislative branch, judicial
branch, and all of the thousands of attendant bureaucracies,
and the so-called 'elective processes', but anyone who doesn't
get it that we are in fact run by a huge oligarchy (oil
companies, pharmacueticals, weapons manufacturers, carmakers,
etc.)that OWNS the 'government' is simply lacking in vision,
perception, or is in lala land. Our government is a Potemkin
village, and while it may appear to function to a limited
extent, it is merely there to execute the policies of banks,
insurance companies, munitions makers -- your aforementioned
10%.... and the 'stockholders'.... How shocked they would be,
if they knew just how organically joined business and
government are. Corruption is the norm in not only our
government, but in virtually every other government on the
planet. Our stage dressings are nicer, is all. Our own human
rights record makes listening to Bush castigating other
countries human rights violations downright embarrassing to
watch. Most of the civilized European nations are indeed more
compassionate and supportive of their citizens than the USA.

  Our media are a large part of the oligarchy, and actually
have evolved to the policy setting stage. I watch FOX all the
time, but it's only because I have a massive crush on Laurie
Dhue. 

  Our politicians are virtually all millionaire lawyers, and
view their constituencies as resources to be used and milked.
Our politicians put self and party before the best interests
of the citizenry they purportedly represent, and I daresay
that most of our elected officials fly dangerously close to
treason; their support of the Constitution looks more like
arson than anything else that comes to mind. 'Family Values'
is just another stage prop for these manipulative, greedy,
soul-less creatures that expect us to believe their every word
because they wear ties. 

  Perceptions. Greetings from sunny downtown Hell, Marlin
Thomas

[zonmoy]

14. I tend to be more worried that our democracy is dying because

we forgot how to stand up to those in power whether they be our parents or others. our country was based upon the actions of those that realized that simply because someone was a king, god or other authority figure didn't make them necessarily good or right to blindly follow.

[NMMNG]

15. .....

[area51]

18. ROFL. (n/t)

[Cerridwen]

30. Perfect!

Now, read his sig line. It's truly enlightening.

[NMMNG]

31. It says a great deal

I'm surprised we didn't get a lecture about taking God out of the schools. Or maybe that's coming in part 2.

[devilgrrl]

54. Oh my....

what year is this?

:crazy:

[Cerridwen]

55. I think raindog has it covered upthread - the way we never were

:crazy: is right.

[BuelahWitch]

59. I like your sig line much better!

:hi:

[Cerridwen]

61. Thanks!

:hi:

[Swamp Rat]

16. I got your 'feral beings' right here, both raised by mothers AND fathers:

[NMMNG]

19. So much for that theory

:P

[Swamp Rat]

21. Raised by dual parent families:

[NMMNG]

23. I'm waiting for the "we can't let homos raise children cuz they'll raise gay kids" argument

Because we know straight parents never raise gay kids. :P

[TwilightGardener]

25. Hah! Good stuff!

[Beregond2]

20. Families

Families of all kinds have been facing attacks from the economic and social policies of the right, which have forced both parents in two parent families to work, and caused the disolution of families due to terrible financial pressures and lack of support systems.

[asdjrocky]

22. I smell something strange.

[catnhatnh]

24. Can I keep it? Can I keep it? Hey George....

I promise to keep it and feed it and pet it...Please George?

[asdjrocky]

26. Ok Lenny, but ya gotta be gentle.

[TwilightGardener]

27. Man...hero to zero in record time.

I agree that a stable, loving family (in its many forms) is absolutely the best start a kid can have in life. I agree that situations like teen parenting and divorce and separations and custody disputes and revolving-door adult relationships have the obvious potential to mess a kid up--if the parents/guardians get too self-involved in their own drama and interests and neglect the needs of the kid, or fail to employ parenting tools like routine and discipline, or fail to provide good role models for the kid to trust and learn from. You're not wrong, per se, but there's a whiff of judgmental Religious Right influence to this that's setting some of us on edge.

[RainDog]

49. personally, I had my reservations with the 1st post

but thought that maybe I was responding that way because of the level of stress and frustration I feel at this time. so I didn't say anything.

I read this post early on, when no one had replied, and was appalled, frankly, but again tried to keep my peace. But it reminded me of certain fundie lies that have been used to manipulate ppl into blaming themselves for things that are the failure of a modern democracy.

I had sig lines turned off until someone mentioned the op one, so I turned them back on. That explains a lot, sadly.

As the op said, he's been in the services for quite a while and has been fed propaganda by those who serve the interests of the rich and regressive. I think it would be helpful for the op to have other sources of outrage other than the religious right.

[Karenina]

77. What I find interesting

is the glorification of the military, something relied upon in the first post to garner support. "Thank you for your service!" :patriot: ALL failing to note the sig line. THEN comes an unmistakable ATTACK against members of our community all covered over with RW gobbledegook. The OP DISAPPEARS! Great that he can shoot at people who have never done anything to him or Amurikkka and come back alive, yet he hasn't the COURAGE to deal with OUR QUESTIONS even behind the safety of his monitor. :puke:

[RuleOfNah]

85. I fell for the first OP.

It was OPers mention of military outsourcing, not a typical (R) talking point. This time I got as far as the 'blame it on the hippies' bigotry before :wtf: struck.

I don't read sigs (other than my own). The font is too small and uncontrastic. So I missed a big clue.

The only feeble hope remaining is that freepers are finally getting on the Republican's premeditated destruction of the US armed forces clue bus.

[pepperbear]

28. "Most striking of all policies is that imposed on the private family structure in America."....

what policies are those, exactly?

[KG]

37. don't ex[ect an answer because there are no such policies.

this is just a frothing anti-gay rant by an idiot. but then i'm sure you know that.

[BuelahWitch]

63. Probably the ones that say spouse and child abuse is bad

Just a guess...

[ConsAreLiars]

33. Yeah, that Jesus guy whose mom got laid by by some stranger was

sure fucked up. Poor survival skills, associating with the scum, resisting established authority. Utopian impracticality. Not like that swell coke-sniffing cheer-leader guy who came from a wealthy, pure, Aryan, Ivy League two-parent family and became the most honored of all humans, a mass-murderer on a global scale.

[Solly Mack]

34. ...

[Karenina]

40. BWHAHAHAHA!!!

SOMEBODY CUT THE CHEESE!!! :rofl: :hi:

[baby_mouse]

35. On of the ways we approach meaningful ideas about reality is through criticism.

And it's generally better to do this criticism of your ideas yourself. It saves everyone a lot of time.

[Angry Mollusk]

36. I'm gay- so are you saying my relationship is 'illegitimate'?

(QUOTE" The nuclear family has been facing attacks since the 70's to degenerate and break down into multitudes of "illegitimate relationships".)



What the hell are you talking about? Is this a thinly guised attempt to bash gays? I'm gay and damn proud of it.

[baby_mouse]

57. He sure is, dude.

He wont come out and say so though.

[bluedawg12]

60. You bet he is- rehashed James Dob_dogbeater_son

this is eugenics and gay bashing written in pooly constructed RW code.

The poor bastage blames society for inter family problems- and the gay agenda is the cause of high divorce rates- because if you eat an apple today there will be a dust storm on Mars...ooops...that doesn't follow, does it. Nor does the OP logic.

[KG]

38. that would be, like, your opinion, man.

did your parents have any kids that lived?

[Karenina]

39. Hit and run?

:shrug:

[Wiley50]

53. I think we scared him off

50 posts of pure outrage is kinda a obvious sign

that you've really stepped in way over your head.

His bios still up (no granite)

but whether he'll take another shot? Anyone's guess.

[Karenina]

67. Hopefully, he'll lurk for awhile, read a bit and

GET AN EDUCATION before spewing any more half-backed feces on this forum.

[ThomWV]

42. Dear sweet Jesus, help this guy.

Sit down, take a deep breath, look at the words, think about what it is you are trying to say.

[immoderate]

45. What the fuck are you talking about?

What are your plans to "educate families?" What exactly is an "illegitimate relationship?" Your statements are vague and you should be around to clarify.

To paraphrase a totally discredited government official, "You go through life with the reality you've got, not the reality you might want."

--IMM

[AngryOldDem]

47. Thanks for the lecture. Duly noted. n/t

[Dr. Strange]

50. I hear you.

We're deteriorating into a slew of evil, feral, soulless creatures, with no future.
By the way, what's that on your avatar?

[bluedawg12]

51. A plea for eugenics right here on DU...hmmm...

"If we produce strong, intelligent children then they have some of the strongest most prolific traits any man or woman can inherit"

How is that tautology related to anything.

This is gibberish:

If we produce....then they have some of the strongest most prolific traits...WTF is a prolific trait? Gibberish + non sequitur

http://sp1.mm-a4.yimg.com/image/3026552151

[bluedawg12]

52. Rehashed RW sh*t written in non sequiturs

"Here in America the society of Americans is one of not only arrogance but of futility"

ahhh....OP means arrogance against the Bible

[El Pinko]

58. I don't even know what you're talking about.

The family is just fine.

People get divorced, but that's not usually a bad thing. I'm sure glad my parents did.

I've been married for 13 years, and we're both happy with it. But if someday it ends, it ends. Life goes on.

Divorced people still love and care for their kids.

I don't think teen pregnancy is "glamorized" by anyone, although it is encouraged by those who would refuse to let a teen girl terminate a preganancy that would ruin her young life.

And what is an "illegitimate relationship"?

I'd really like to know.

[asdjrocky]

62. Here's what this poster is about:

I'm amazed at the people that were fooled by it's first post.

[bluedawg12]

70. It's an old trick- do you love Mom, apple pie and the flag? -bait

because unless you agree with my logic you are against: (___fill in the blank___)

It's frightening how easily people get swayed by jingoism.

Here's where this crap comes from:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612140004

Experts say Dobson's Time column distorted their research to denounce same-sex parents
Summary: Two researchers cited by Focus on the Family's James Dobson have both accused Dobson of misusing their research in a Time magazine guest column arguing that same-sex parenting is harmful to children.

[lonestarnot]

73. LOL... snort!

:rofl:

[bluedawg12]

64. James Dob_dogbeater_son screed reahsged: check this>>

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612140004

>>Psychologist Carol Gilligan and Dr. Kyle Pruett, the two researchers cited by Focus on the Family chairman James C. Dobson in his December 12 (previously dated December 10) Time magazine guest column arguing that same-sex parenting is harmful to children, have both accused Dobson of misusing their research. As Media Matters for America previously noted, Dobson made unfounded assertions in the column about gay and lesbian parenting while appearing to distort "social-science evidence" to claim "that children do best on every measure of well-being when raised by their married mother and father." <<

[bluedawg12]

72. Do YOU really want strong families?

You want strong families?

Then why didn’t the OP write about this:

Decent living wages for families.

Health care for families?

Access to quality education- for families?

Why didn’t you decry: domestic violence against women and children- with in families?

Why didn’t you decry the sexualization, abduction, rape and murder of women?

Why didn’t you decry the sexualization, abduction, rape and murder of teenage boys and girls?

Why didn’t you decry the sexualization, abduction, rape and murder of children?

Why didn’t you decry the recent highly publicized, and seeming trend, toward the abuse and murder of pregnant women?


Thank you for posting your RW propaganda.
You are not the first to want to "breed" strong and prolific gene lines.
Nor are you the first to gay bash.

http://sp1.mm-a3.yimg.com/image/2544633808
Hitler-Jugend


“Adolf Hitler had read some racial-hygiene tracts during his period of imprisonment in Landsberg Prison.

The future leader considered that Germany could only become strong again if the state applied to German society the basic principles of racial hygiene and eugenics.

Hitler believed the nation had become weak, corrupted by the infusion of degenerate elements into its bloodstream.

He also believed that the strong and the racially pure had to be encouraged to have more children, and the weak and the racially impure had to be neutralized by one means or another.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics

[lonestarnot]

74. And do you waterboard your kids?

[Justpat]

75. I think you sailed into the wrong harbor.

Try freerepublic.


As far as I know, this is still DEMOCRATIC underground.

Your right wing talking points are a pile of flotsam and jetsam on our liberal shores.

Get out while the tide is still to your advantage.


Bon Voyage.

[Karenina]

76. 2 hit and run threads...

maybe he'll find smoother waters elsewhere. One can only hope. ;-)

[Justpat]

81. Has this place gone mad?

His welcoming committee on the other thread is appalling.

His sig line alone should have tipped people off.

[Karenina]

82. One would think!

But he's now had his fun showing off to his fellow knuckle-draggers. I'll be surprised if we see anything more from him.

[devilgrrl]

83. I am so with you on this one!

Yes, this place has gone mad!