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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:27 AM
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What is the future of the DLC ?
The DLC came to power with the election of Bill Clinton in 1992. They believed there was a "middle way". They worked a political strategy called "triangulation", whereby they would play both sides against the middle, but always with the goal of maintaining 51% of the vote. They developed a mindset within the Democratic Party that the electorate was always willing to vote by a slim majority for either one Party or the other and that the power was somewhere in the middle. There was no overwhelming majority in the philosophy of the DLC.

In the process, the more progressive Democrats were not-so-gently pushed to the side, with no option except to support the DLC or to let the Republicans win the elections. The "middle" kept getting pushed farther and farther to the right, to the point that many progressives could not discern the DLC from the old Republican Party. They passed legislation that had for many years been on the conservative agenda, including welfare reform, the Telecommunications Act, NAFTA and GATT, for example. None of these were in the traditonal interests of Democrats.

Now, we found ourselves in the election of 2008 and Hillary Clinton is the last remaining survivor of the DLC establishment. If she does not win, what does the future hold for the DLC. Will they maintain power within the Party or will they only remain a myth, much like Reagan "conservatism"?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:35 AM
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1. If there is a God (and hopefully even if there isn't)
that shit will go straight into the garbage.

The right thinks we don't stand for anything, in part because some of us* DON'T. x(

*I'm using the word "us" loosely here.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:36 AM
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2. Hillary is by no means...
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:48 AM by ingac70
the last remaining survivor of the DLC... the DLC is the leadership arm of the "New Democrats" (New Democrat Coalition)

My hope is that if Hillary doesn't get the nom. (fingers crossed) that we can beginning the arduous process of purging these people from the Democratic party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat

http://www.house.gov/tauscher/ndc/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat_Coalition
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:42 AM
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3. They'll be losing power as the party, and the country, move further left.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:44 AM by Perry Logan
My optimistic take is that six years of Republican rule have swung the country leftward. This bodes ill for the DLC, so most of us will be happy.

For the record, I am not pro-DLC. But I do like to point out that, if they were so terribly evil, it seems like the Clinton Administration would not have so many excellent accomplishments. One should try to give credit where it's due--even to Clintons.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:50 AM
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5. To give credit where it is due...
What do you see as the greatest achievements of the Clinton Administration? I think of the FMLA which allowed workers to take off work, without pay, to take care of a sick loved one. Also, I think they did a great job at bringing the spending and deficits under control. Also, I think he had some luck on his side that the technological revolution took place in the 1990's, where computers became commonplace in almost every home - almost like a car in every garage in the 1920's. I think that was the biggest thing that happened to the economy in the 1990's.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:54 AM
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6. Here's a list of Clinton accomplishments.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:55 AM by Perry Logan
Longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html

PS: What about corruption?

Forget about it. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations, Clinton's was the cleanest administration since Teddy Roosevelt.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:01 AM
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7. That's pretty impressive !
Did he do anything that you disagreed with? We did have a sizable majority in both the House and the Senate when he came into office in 1992. How did we lose that under Clinton's leadership?
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:24 AM
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8. I have many issues with Clinton's administration. He was only a moderate, after all.
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 08:26 AM by Perry Logan
As for losing seats in Congress, I ascribe that to the Republican hack and their control of the media.

Look at it this way: despite the biggest ad hominem smear campaign in galactic history, Clinton was tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th century. So it seems a bit dicey to pin the loss of Congress on him.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:49 AM
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9. What do we have to show for those 8 years ?
What large changes affected the average working person and the average American? Were these permanent policy changes or were they temporary circumstances of the times? I'm sure GWB will come up with a similar long list of accomplishments when he is out of office. But, looking at the big picture, we can see that his presidency has been an unmitigated disaster.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 06:35 AM
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10. GWB has undone the work of ALL previous Presidents. Here's what his resume will look like...
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 06:36 AM by Perry Logan
George W. Bush was...

first cokehead in the White House
first National Guard deserter
first convicted criminal
lost more jobs in his first year than any President in history
broke more international treaties than any in history
lowest job growth in American history
more debt than all previous President's combined (WHOA!!!)
first administration to out a CIA agent for partisan reasons
largest worldwide protests against the Iraq War
presided over the worst terror attack in world history
first President since the Civil War to lose an American city
spying on his people more than any administration since Stalin
first President to use a wire
first President on antidepressants (& God know what else)
more vacation time than any other (which is a blessing for the country, really)
Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history. Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
The most secretive and un-accountable of any administration in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest corporate stock market frauds of any market in any country in the history of the world.
Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack.
Etc., etc., etc.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:49 AM
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4. Here's a list (as of '06)..
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:22 AM
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11. The DLC Is Older...And Still Has Its Place
Many will site the start of the DLC with what was known as the "Carter Coalition" in the '76 election of Southern Democrats (including the few Dixiecrats that remained) and the "moderate" wing of the Democratic party (the "establishment) that landed Mondale on the ticket that year and made him the "heir apparent" in '84. The coalition shattered in the bitter primary with Ted Kennedy in '80 and never recovered...the DLC forming out of the Mondale disaster of '84. Clinton was able to recapture the mixture of "moderates" and Southern Democrats (Yellow Dogs) that Carter did.

The Yellow Dogs are now blue and there will be a "conservative" or "moderate" wing of the party. It's part of what it takes to be a national, large coalition. Would one question the status of the CBC or the DFA? While most of us don't agree with a lot of the tenets of what the DLC has stood for and how they operated, they, as with all opposition must always be countered with ideas and actions. By not staying active and involved, the void will be filled by someone.
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