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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:53 PM
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SECRET PACT ALLOWS FOREIGN TROUPS TO FIGHT ON U.S. SOIL
With no warning, a significant military agreement was signed by the chief Armed Forces commanders of both the U.S.A. and Canada on Feb. 14. The agreement allows the armed forces from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a domestic civil emergency.

And as Jerome R. Corsi writes of the range of domestic civil emergencies, in WorldNetDaily, “even one that does not involve a cross-border crisis.”

The Valentine’s Day pact got zero coverage in the mainstream media whose investigative reporters must have been out hunting down chocolate and posies.

Were it not for a USNORTHCOM photo that surfaced depicting a beaming U.S. air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, USNORTHCOM commander and Canadian Air Force Lt. Gen. Marc Dumais, commander of Canada Command, the public the media serve would have been left in the dark.

<SNIP>

Defined by its architects as a “Civil Assistance Plan”, the agreement was never submitted to Congress for approval.

“Nor did Congress pass any law or treaty specifically authorizing this military agreement to combine the operations of the armed forces of the United States and Canada in the event of a wide range of domestic civil disturbances ranging from violent storms, to heal epidemics, to civil riots or terrorist attacks.” (WorldNetDaily, Feb. 24, 2008).

Mind you, reporter David Pugliese, had the story published by CanWest News Service on Friday.

Imagine an agreement that paves the way for the militaries of the U.S. and Canada to cross each other’s borders to fight domestic emergencies not being announced by either the Harper government or the Canadian military.

MORE
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2040
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:54 PM
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1. Never submitted to Congress
And the report only comes to light in Canada. Paranoia strikes deep. Into your lives it will creep....
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:56 PM
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2. So it's illegitimate? Like the past 2 election campaigns?
n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:58 PM
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3. Its staight from the pages of WorldNetDaily, so it must be true!
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:05 PM
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4. Here's a somewhat more legitimate source
http://www.gazette.com/articles/canada_33274___article.html/military_plan.html

The United States and Canada have inked an agreement to help one another during civil emergencies.

Air Force Gen. Gene Renuart, commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command and Northern Command based at Peterson Air Force Base, and Canadian Air Force Lt. Gen. Marc Dumais, Canada Command commander, signed the pact last week.

The Civil Assistance Plan allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation.

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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:30 PM
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10. :Your reply is an example of lazy reliance on discrediting sources
which is rampant here on DU, and one of the reasons I now post many important stories in other places.

This kind of mindset says "Hey, it's from a source I think is unreliable. So now I can get lazy. I don't have to:

1. Read the article carefully.

2. Look for similar reports from different publications.

3. Analyze the report to see if it corroborates other information I've learned about recently. However,

4. But now I can write my own post that discourages others from reading the story, as my big contribution to Democracy for today."

Read the article carefully and you'll see that the original report is from CanWest News Service, Canada's equivalent of the AP. This is not a trivial story.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:27 PM
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14. If WND said it would be sunny in Texas on a June day at 3pm
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 09:28 PM by baldguy
I'd bring an umbrella.

There are REASONS some sources have been discredited.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:11 PM
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5. Hubby and I took the kids to Cracker Barrel for Valentine's day.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 04:11 PM by woodsprite
I know - sucky place to eat (at least for Valentine's day) - the kids picked it. It's the one in Elkton MD, right off I-95 and what did we see in the parking lot of the hotel next to us. A huge bus with the Canadian Military logo and pics splashed all over it. It was a huge, side of the bus-sized graphic. We made some cracks about how I guess they figured they'll come over here to recruit since everyone going to Canada is going because they don't want to fight.

We thought it was really odd at the time. Guess I may not have been off the mark much.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:12 PM
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6. Under our Constitution congress must "provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia"
Given that militia, Congress is authorized "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions."

10 USC 311 says:
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


Congress is derelict in organizing, arming, and disciplining the "unorganized militia".

If Congress had done its job, we would not need to borrow Canada's military.

:puke:


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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:13 PM
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7. However
In one of Bush's signing statements...he took that power away from Congress in the event of a "national emergency"...nudge nudge wink wink.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:23 PM
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8. Correct and HR5122 that * signed in Oct 06 probably overturned the Posse Comitatus Act. n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:26 PM
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9. Troupes? Thousands of circus mimes?
Although that would be bad in itself.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:36 PM
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11. We Canuckistanians won't be ferriners for much longer.

At least, not once the North American Union gets rammed through and we are all (at least those who still have jobs) getting our paychecks in ameros.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:41 PM
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12. OMIGOD! We're getting set up for the Canadians to invade us!
OMIGOD OMIGOD OMIGOD OMIGOD!!! Everyone panic NOW!

They'll make us eat baked beans with maple syrup in them, and anyone who doesn't end every sentnece with "eh" will be packed off to work in the labor camps at the Poutine mines!

Redstone
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:51 PM
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13. Not really anything to get excited about methinks.
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I've read numerous parts of this agreement, and "troops" would only be crossing the border at the request of the other's government.

It's mainly to streamline this troop movement, for example:

If there is a severe ice storm in New York State that would need the help of the National Guard(which is mostly in Iraq I suspect), Canadian troops ON REQUEST can cross the border without undue delay.

And vice-versa:

If we had an uprising(not likely) up here that our local police, RCMP, and soldiers couldn't handle, then the USA military can be ASKED to assist.

They just can't wander over cuz they figure we need help.

I suspect it is more in the USA's interest to have us come down there to help with internal problems because the USA's National Guard is depleted as a result of overseas "obligations".

I don't see anything ominous in what I've read so far.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:04 PM
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15. Some Canadians smelling a rat too.

Rome is burning, folks
but it's probably too late to yell "fire"


Some people have noticed I've been goofing off these past several days. I haven't felt inspired to write. I feel lately that all I can do is repeat myself.

Canadians are asleep, or drugged or something. We are living in Orwell's 1984 fighting unending wars with trumped-up enemies, bombarded by words that don't mean what they used to, the media are nothing but propaganda tools, everybody running for office is a sleaze or a crook, political parties are interchangeable, enjoying one big party at the tax payer's expense. Blah, blah, blah.

I whined about the SPP long before people went into the streets about it. I harangued city councillors when they were in the processing of approving "Support the Troops" decals on city vehicles, and now that it's a done deal, people are beginning to protest.

I've said over and over that American troops, DEA officers (remember Mark Emery who was kidnapped on a Halifax street?) and US state troopers are operating on our soil, that it's only a matter of time before the military will be used against the people they are pledged to protect, just the same as the police are.

Lt. Paul Finnemore, in his emailed attempts to interview yours truly, literally gave away the fact that the government has been intending to use the military to quell protests (emphasis mine):

"What I would like to talk about are things such as what your group would expect of (sic) appreciate in terms of communication with the military at any time or during scheduled demonstrations."

http://www.yayacanada.com/028-24.html
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