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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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Dave Lindorff: The Welch Whitewash: We Still Don't Know What That Aug. 30 Nuclear Incident Was About
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:05 PM by marmar
The Welch Whitewash: We Still Don't Know What That Aug. 30 Nuclear Incident Was About
Mon, 02/25/2008 - 16:31 — dlindorff


A new report on the August 30 incident in which six nuclear-armed advanced cruise missiles were effectively “lost” for 36 hours, during which time they were, against all regulations, flown in launch position mounted on a pylon on the wing of a B-52H Stratofortress, from Minot AFB in North Dakota across the continental US to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana, has left unanswered some critical questions about the event.

Directed by retired Air Force Gen. Larry D. Welch, the task force’s Report on the Unauthorized Movement of Nuclear Weapons found plenty wrong with the way the US military handles its nuclear weapons, but appears to have dealt lightly with the specific incident that sparked the inquiry—only giving it a few paragraphs.

According to the report, when nuclear-capable missiles are placed onto a pylon assembly (in the case of the B-52, these pylons can hold six missiles), procedures call for a clear distinction to be made as to whether they are armed with nuclear weapons or with dud warheads. In the storage bunker, pylons with dud warheads are supposed to be encircled with orange cones like those used by highway repair crews, and placards announcing that the warheads are duds are supposed to be hung on all four sides. This reportedly was not done, leaving no distinction between one pylon containing six nuclear-armed missiles, and two others that had missiles carrying nukes.

A second failure was in record keeping. According to regulations for handling nuclear weapons, every step in moving a nuke requires written verification and manual checking. When the weapons were taken from storage racks and installed on the missiles, there should have been written records, including the serial numbers of each warhead. When a breakout crew moved the nuclear-armed missiles on the pylon and passed it to a convoy crew for removal from the storage bunker to the airfield for mounting on the plane, there was supposed to be a visual verification of the warheads by the convoy crew, and another written record of the transfer of ownership. When the convoy crew handed over the pylon to the crew chief for mounting on the plane, there was supposed to be another warhead verification check by the crew chief and another written record. Finally, the aircrew was required to verify the payload, warhead by warhead. ......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/110




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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:08 PM
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1. It's odd you bring this up because I was just wondering about it
a couple of days ago. Dropped like a lead balloon, didn't it? I'd want to know no matter what but the fact that I don't trust the administration makes me uneasy knowing there are loose nukes out there...somewhere.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:49 PM
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2. Not this thing again.
"According to regulations for handling nuclear weapons, every step in moving a nuke requires written verification and manual checking. When the weapons were taken from storage racks and installed on the missiles, there should have been written records, including the serial numbers of each warhead."

They weren't supposed to be moving nukes. They were supposed to be moving dummies, which wouldn't require all the paperwork.

This happened due to two bits of sloppiness. One, storing the neutered missiles together with the nukes, which isn't supposed to be done, but was because they were short on storage space. Two, the failure of the crews to properly inspect all the missiles. Failure to follow proceedure is not an uncommon problem in any kind of routine operation in the military or elsewhere, when people assume that they know what they're doing and don't want to be bothered with the effort of double-checks.

"also because of the possibility of accidents in which a non-nuclear device could detonate, scattering nuclear debris."

Not to say that it's not a bad idea to store conventional weapons and nukes together, because it is. But nuclear weapons already contain large amounts of conventional explosives. They're quite capable of detonating and scattering debris all on their own.

"why, if all the various teams that handled the six nuclear-tipped Advanced Cruise Missiles up at Minot, from the guards and handlers in the storage bunker to the pilots, failed to note that the warheads on the missiles were nukes, was the ground crew that went out onto the tarmac to service the plane after it landed at Barksdale able to spot them and identify them as nukes almost immediately upon arriving at the plane?"

Why does a fresh pair of eyes help anywhere? They were actually looking, as opposed to going about the same routine over, and over again, the way the Minot crews were.

"Given that history, one has to assume that the warheads on those six missiles on the pylon must have been literally screaming out that they were nukes, for the ground crew to have noticed."

Not really. Externally a nuclear-tipped ACM looks the same as a dummy. To find out the difference you've got to look through a small viewing hole to check the color of the surface behind it. However, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be noticed in the process of checking them and getting ready to dismount them.

"The position of the report was clearly, from the start, that this whole thing was a mistake."

Which is, of course, a sign of conspiracy. Because it's not like, you know, they might have known enough immediately to realize that it was a mistake.

"Recall too that in the weeks and days prior to and immediately following the Aug. 30 Minot nuke incident, no fewer than six airmen associated with Minot, Barksdale and the B-52 fleet died either in vehicle accidents or alleged suicides."

Total and complete bullshit. This is a myth, having no truth behind it whatsoever. Only one of the six "mysterious" deaths had any connection no matter how tenuous to B-52s, a pilot who wasn't stationed at Minot. Two of the deaths were civilian base workers who died in a motorcycle accident. One guy who'd been stationed at Minot shot himself after some kind of altercation with his parents and fiancee.

"One of the two suicides involved a Minot airman whose job was guarding the base’s nuclear weapons storage facilities."

Also bullshit. The airman's job was nothing of the sort; he simply belonged to the same unit which worked base security at Minot. Sloppy "journalism," taking urban legends and conspiracy-theory tripe as gospel. It's also quite undisputed by anyone that he shot himself.

"Could someone at the top level of government—perhaps the Vice President, who is particularly belligerent towards Iran—have attempted to set up an alternative chain of command to “spring” a few unaccounted for nukes for use in some kind of “false flag” or rogue operation that, were it to succeed, could set a war against Iran in motion?"

Ignoring the completely speculative and highly paranoid conspiracy theory quality of this, simply "passing off" a nuclear weapon is a lot harder than writing "made in Iran" on it. Even if detonated, the radioisotope signature ratios would almost certainly be trackable back to US production.

Besides which, this presumes a conspiracy that's both brilliant enough to get the nukes out of Minot without anyone noticing, but so stupid that they just left them sitting on the tarmac at Barksdale.

Yeah, that's real plausible journalism.

"Barksdale AFB, it should be noted, bills itself as the main staging base for B-52s being sent overseas for Middle East duty."

No, it does NOT. This is again, consiracy theory lies presented as fact. Barksdale is one of many AFBs that serves as a jumping off point for airplanes heading to the Middle East. It's also one of only two AFBs where they permanently keep B-52s.

"Clearly too, they were so distrustful of their superiors, right on up to the office of the Secretary of Defense, that they did not consider taking their information to anyone within the Pentagon."

Or maybe they HAD done so, and also simply wanted it to be public so that anybody involved in the fuckup would have to be canned, rather than being able to pull favors to get out of serious punishment.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:54 PM
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3. It's not "again", it's "STILL". Recommended. nm
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:55 PM
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4. If procedures are as loosely followed as you say, why would getting the nukes out of Minot,...
,...without anyone noticing be so far-fetched?

Anyway, I appreciate your level of confidence about the truth to this matter.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:02 PM
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5. So then people should just trust everything and move on ?
I for one don't , not in the age of bush and lied into wars . I don't know jack about procedures but when things like this happen and are called a simple mistake then something is really wrong .
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:11 PM
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6. You know to much or claim to , to many ex military said that the moving of the nukes
without knowledge of what they were is BS. And there would have been a new set of eyes checking them out each step of the way.

Who would be doing the Isotope signature readings in an area thats ringed by the military. There was Thermite found at Ground Zero in NY and that hasn't made the Liam Street Media.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:19 PM
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7. The connotation that mishandling nukes is no big deal is, at the very least, concerning.
Personally, I never could buy that, "innocent mistake" notion. I've read way WAY too many military pieces asserting that procedures involving arms are STRICTLY followed. Now, when it comes to other stuff, borrowing and/or sharing takes place but we are talking about nuclear arms for pete's sake!!!
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:27 PM
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8. Yea as much stink as there is in the world about who has them , Don't buy it.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:00 PM
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9. I believe that a statement by Napoleon describes the situation
"never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." Or words to that effect
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:44 AM
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10. How 'bout a tie?
The malAdministration has demonstrated an equal degree of both malice and incompetence.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:31 AM
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11. I'll buy into that
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