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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:18 PM
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McCain has a new spot on swollen part of his face
Normally, McCain positions himself so that the side of his face scarred by the cancer surgery is concealed, but Anderson Cooper just ran a piece where the other side of McCain's face was featured. Late in the day McCain's scar side is usually more swollen, but tonight, plum smack in the middle of the lump there was a little mole.

Unfortunately, I have no documentation for my observation, but since the cancer has recurred in the same spot at least once, and at most three times, it wouldn't be unusual for a malignancy to return.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:21 PM
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1. he didn't clean his face well enough after his smooch fest with bush.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:23 PM
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5. Lipstick stain? eom
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:34 PM
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18. dingleberry.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:17 AM
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50. a dingleberry gets my vote
a bush/cheney dingleberry at that
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:12 AM
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51. It's kind of the Republican mark of the beast.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:22 PM
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2. McCain has excellent health care, he will get whatever treatment he needs if that the case.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:25 PM
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6. The best health care can't stop
the Grim Reaper. The only certainty in any of our futures is death.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:02 AM
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38. Yer a blast at parties, aren't ya?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:22 PM
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3. He had to take out an insurance contract on a loan- which was a first.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:40 PM
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22. Details please! eom
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:48 PM
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26. This was a first in any campaign
Before Getting $3 Million Loan, McCain Had to Buy Life Insurance
By Eric Kleefeld - February 1, 2008, 9:25AM


Just how dire was John McCain's financial situation last year, before he vaulted back to frontrunner status? The Washington Post has some details on the $3 million loan that McCain took out in order to finance the campaign,

including a rather macabre detail — because McCain pledged his fundraising list as collateral, and he would need to be alive to give the list its full value, he had to take out a special life insurance policy just in case he failed to survive the campaign.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:52 PM
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30. He and his wife keep separate accounts
Bill and Hillary didn't make that mistake.


Cindy is smarter than I thought. Three million is chump change to her-but it must be hers.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:56 PM
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31. I am laughing hard but I am not tickled. I don't think McWalnuts will
necessarily make it til November.
Please don't get after me for this, I just think the man is physically ill.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:23 PM
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4. I've been noticing his face too and it doesn't look gooooood.
Ackety!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:26 PM
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7. I had malignent melanoma -
and at the time, you either got it all, or you died.

I've not heard of it recurring in the same spot, unless they did less of a radical removal than they did for mine because his was on his face?



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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:27 PM
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9. Don't know
It looks like the surgery was pretty aggressive.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:38 PM
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20. I never really paid attention to his face (understandably!) so I haven't noticed
the scar,. Mine looks like Frankenstein's neck.

I'm sure we'll hear about it if it is another episode.


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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:43 PM
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23. McCain is stubborn
reportedly he waited too long in the past. We'll know about two months after he does, which is four months after he should have sought treatment.

What is McCain's view of stem cell research?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:51 PM
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28. From On the Issues:
Supports federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. (May 2007)

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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:27 PM
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8. STFU! SICK SHIT LIKE THIS MAKE ME CRAZY!!! *puke* EOM
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:30 PM
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11. Why?
The man with a better than 50/50 chance of assuming the most powerful position in the world has suffered a disease which kills 25% of its victims. If the issue isn't material, there are no material issues.

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:39 PM
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21. Better than 50/50? Is that your vision? nt
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:45 PM
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24. Based on recent history, nothing more. eom
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:28 PM
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10. McCain has been having a real slugfest with a guy named McCain
They can't seem to agree on anything. McCain will say something and then this guy McCain will come out and contradict him almost immediately. Must've come to blows.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:31 PM
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13. Poor guy. eom
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:32 PM
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16. So Dole part deux?
Bob Dole says that Bob Dole is in great of health. Bob Dole pushes weight with Bob Dole's llama. John McCain has nothing on Bob Dole, since Bob Dole is God, and John McCain is a dog. Got it, so says Bob Dole.

Bob Dole.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:31 PM
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12. the old coot....
....is rotting before our eyes....his health and age should be questioned more and be made part of the campaign....

....how come we don't talk more about his disease? Is cheney going to be his VP too?
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:32 PM
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15. Americans deny mortality
It's not PC to discuss life expectancy.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:31 PM
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14. Cancer aside, I think McCain will be run into the ground by this campaign.
Especially if the nominee is Obama who has a lot more youth and vitality on his side which will be very apparent when they appear side by side in debate.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:33 PM
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17. And your point is?
This is a place where we post our ideas in support of Democratic candidates, but your post in supposed opposition to a Republican candidate is way out of bounds. That's not what we do here.

Redstone
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:36 PM
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19. How is the opponents ability
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 10:39 PM by eyeontheprize
to serve an off-limits topic? It's absurd to believe that McCain's health should not be an issue.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:45 PM
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25. I assume he is under an oncologist's purview, given his history; hope this is nothing,
regardless of the man's politics.



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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:49 PM
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27. Certainly
An observation isn't glee, but it shouldn't be ignored either.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:52 PM
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29. I think its the walnuts
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:56 PM
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32. lots of cancer in my family--its a horrible , horrible thing.
I hope this is not the case with McCain, and that his health is OK, and he is beaten soundly- on the issues - in the GE.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:08 PM
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33. While the thought of a "president McCain" disgusts me to no
end...if he has a medical problem, i.e. melanoma, he should have it treated, and there is no animosity in me for someone who has any disease...only empathy and sympathy...with the hope he will beat it, if it is there.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:11 PM
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34. No sane person disagrees with you
but wishing him well is an entirely separate issue from his ability to serve.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 PM
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35. I think his ability to serve is most certainly the question almost
every citizen has...that is why he will lose...he is possibly the worst candidate the R's could have at this point. he is a sacrificial lamb...he won't garner more than 30% of the vote. Even hard core R's out here in nebraska honestly believe that the GOP is done for a generation after bush...McCain isn't helping dispel that idea. He is seen as an older version of "the same old stuff"...and his "100 year war" statement, killed him with the R's out here.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:31 PM
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36. "won't garner more than 30% of the vote"
Care to put a little wager on that percentage?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:45 PM
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37. Sure...I'm out here in Nebraska...out of all of the R's I know...
about 20% say they might vote for McCain...most are so disillusioned they aren't even going to show up. Even my mother, back in NY, who has voted R her entire life, refuses to vote for McCain.

I figure the rest of the R's across the nation feel the same way...:)
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:05 AM
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39. Hi from Kearney!
:hi:

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:11 AM
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40. WooHoo! I'm in Norfolk!!!!
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 12:11 AM by rasputin1952
It's cold up here tonight...:scared:
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:16 AM
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41. If Dubya can still pull 19% approval with all his baggage
War hero McCain can surely pull more than 30%.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:51 AM
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42. I don't think so...and a a vet, I can tell you that being a POW is
certainly no picnic, (I was never a POW), but it doesn't make you a hero either...the hero stuff is as overblown as bush's "service" in the TX ANG.

Heroes...I usually don't speak of heroes, as most of them are in military cemetaries...but three of them that come to mind are:

Bob Kerry, lost his leg on a mission, received the MOH for getting his SEAL team out of a bad situation after completing the mission...slimed by the R's when he was just thinking about running fro president in 2000.

Max Cleland, who, a month before his tragic loss of three limbs, had received the Silver Star as a Cpt that had pulled several of his wounded Sig Corps members from the line of fire and treated them for wounds where at least 2 of them would have died if he had not performed his act under fire. Slimed by the R's for being a "coward" and "out on a beer run", when a grenade he was trying to grab and toss away from the chopper and his men, went off.

Roy Benevides, SSG at the time, Special Forces...went in on an extraction of fellow SF Team members, was shot, stabbed, clubbed, hit w/shrapnel, almost bled to death, and was considered dead when loaded on the Huey, until a Medic felt a faint pulse and began to treat him rigorously. Before he clambered on that bird, he had spent nearly an hour fighting off a determined NVA attack, killed at least 15 NVA, some of them hand to hand, treated several wounded team members, retrieved classified material from the dead Lt that led the team, watched a chopper burst into flame and crash, rescued those on board and getting them to safety before another bird could land. And a few other things that are not on the front of my brain because I am tired.

Google "Medal of Honor", go to the site that is sponsored by the Army., I think it is the first one...I'd paste the link, but my pc has C&P down for the count...anyway...go to Vietnam Awards...read about Kerry and Benevides...these are what heroes do...and neither of them "brag" about being a hero...in fact, I met both Kerry and Benevides, (who has since passed away), and they are the epitome of what we call "humble guys". These are heroes.

McCain got shot down, and he spent years in the Hanoi Hilton, I give him credit for making it through that horror, but he is no hero.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:11 AM
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43. I guess I should have put war hero in quotes
because that is exactly how will be portrayed by the repubs and the media. I agree, intercepting a missile with your aircraft doesn't confer hero status.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:14 AM
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44. You are missing one there the Cmdr of PT 109
JFK was a real hero after suffering the loss of his boat he managed to keep most of his men alive and got them rescued too!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:03 AM
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45. Yes...JFK 's PT 109 story is an odd one...but he did save most
of the crew, and that is precisely what the capt of a vessel should do under the circumstances. The Navy tried to burn him for he loss of the 109, and Joe Kennedy lobbied to get his son the MOH, (something I find offensive), but the point is, he and the survivors came through, and it was in good part, because JFK was a leader.

I have known many heroes in my life, virtually all of the have done things that never garnered press, or medals; praise was rarely, if ever garnished upon them in public venue. People acted because they had to act at the time. The woman that was nearly killed pulling a child out of the street as a car barreled down on him; the guy in the store who reported child abuse; Civil Rights workers of the 60's that were beaten and chased down by dogs, but never gave up. Heroes are around us, but we rarely see the acts they perform, in most cases, they go quietly through life, rising to challenge and doing something, anything to make their small part of the world just a little better, and by doing that, help us all.

Where was McCain, when Desmond Tutu, at 5'2", physically stood between warring factions and defused what would have become a very bloody affair? Where was McCain, when it came time to stand up against a president that has attempted to shred our Constitution and create a 'Royal" America? Where is McCain when he sees some of the children of this nation going to bed hungry, sick and w/o health care or the means to have a meal to ease their pain?

Hero, bona fide war hero? No, merely someone who hangs his hat on being the son of an admiral, and refusing "special" treatment because of who he is...while in the Hanoi Hilton; and the most damning of all...not taking a solid stand against torture, after being a victim of it himself. A hero stands up against injustice, torture and inhumanity, McCain facilitates them. No hero there, just another schmuck.

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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:14 AM
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49. You Got it!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:06 AM
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46. It's what's left of his integrity...
It's turned to pus and is trying to get out of his body.
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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:11 AM
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47. I too have noticed that lump on his face growing in recent weeks
I think it's sort of like Pinnochio's nose...it gets bigger with each new lie he tells.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:11 AM
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48. Gramps and the Liver Spot Express
a face only a Moran could love





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