REMINDER: Waxman hearing on WH missing email's: Today at 10 am.

[halobeam]

Should be very interesting since Waxman didn't "buy" White House spokesman Tony Fratto's newest spin... he (Fratto) went before the press corps and said: "What missing e-mails?"

"We have no reason to believe that any e-mail at all are missing," Fratto said.

But Henry Waxman ain't buying.
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/30811

LIVE STREAMING WILL BE UP AT: www.oversight.house.gov

[originalpckelly]

1. I wonder if this will be plastered all over the TV like the steroids were.

:shrug:

I doubt it.

At least they're doing real work today.

[halobeam]

2. Not even on CSPAN.

:-(

[Breeze54]

8. Capital Hearings is part of C-Span... U.S. Congressional Hearings:

U.S. Congressional Hearings: schedule
http://www.capitolhearings.org/

Committee Holds Hearing on Electronic Records Preservation at the White House

The Committee is holding a hearing entitled “Electronic Records Preservation at the White House.”

Click here for live video of the hearing. http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1765

[halobeam]

10. thanks... I looked there too early for link...

[Breeze54]

36. You're quite welcome.

I'm getting a spotty feed (dial up) so every time I click on DU to post, the audio breaks up. Argh!

So, I didn't reply to you right away...waiting for it to settle down. ;)

[Eurobabe]

113. good, thanks for the heads up and link!

you guys :yourock:

[halobeam]

3. I want to see Waxman fired up. I like that!

When we see anyone get pissed as they SHOULD, it feels good.

[havocmom]

4. Wonder about 'missing emails' & bush desperation over TELECOM immunity

Thinkin' cheney got a ransom note that 'lost emails' are not completely lost until TELECOMS have complete immunity for their past cooperation.

Live by the tap, die by the tap, uh, unca dick?

[halobeam]

6. connecting the dots...

we should have our priv. investigator's license by now.

[havocmom]

14. Dot Connecters Inc

dat's us!

It all makes sense when you just step back so you can see more than one issue at a time. Don't know why that ability is so damned rare.

[halobeam]

18. Catchy!! Let's be founders....

:toast:

[Fredda Weinberg]

5. Thank you. Nothing like a good hearing to pass the day n/t

[halobeam]

7. Glad you're here!

[Fredda Weinberg]

11. Wouldn't miss it for the world. Waxman's such a pleasure to hear

And you're what makes DU my first destination in the AM.

[flor de jasmim]

9. Thanks for posting the link for live streaming

[halobeam]

16. anytime... especially when important hearings are not announced as much as they should be.

[C_U_L8R]

12. They should haul in the IT guys

they know where all the emails are buried

[halobeam]

13. List of witnesses

The following witnesses are expected to testify:




Alan R. Swendiman, Director, Office of Administration

Theresa Payton, Chief Information Officer, Office of Administration

The Honorable Allen Weinstein, Archivist of the United States

Gary M. Stern, General Counsel, National Archives and Records Administration

Sharon Fawcett, Assistant Archivist for Presidential Libraries


edit to respond further: Hopefully this hearing will result in IT witnesses to appear next.

[madokie]

15. how would I get this to play in VLC media player as it is the only video player I have loaded

thanks in advance :-)

[halobeam]

17. I don't see which player the webcast is streaming on

so I can't help you in this. I'm sorry.. maybe someone else who knows the player you have, can help.

Anyone here know how to play this on VLC player?

[Breeze54]

35. It didn't give me a choice when I clicked the viddeo link...it's using Windows Media player

on my 'puter. I guess I don't have a choice or they're not using Real Player anymore.

[alfredo]

92. It won't play in your browser?

[originalpckelly]

19. Speak ENGLISH! Motherfuckers!

Good God, no wonder people don't want to fucking watch this bullshit, they're bogged down in the bullshit.

"Point of order Mr. Chairman."

"The Gentleasshole, Mr. Hellhole, from Tennessee is recognized."

"Mr. Chairman, I have to break wind."

"Unanimous consent request for Mr. Hellhole to break wind."

"Mr. Chairman, I have an objection."

"What is the objection."

"I think that would blow."

"Of course it would, the Gentleasshole is about to break wind. Objection denied."

"Mr. Hellhole proceed, please."

[halobeam]

20. we need a Hearing to English/English to Hearing dictionary

[madokie]

21. spitting coffee everywhere

damn you missed your calling

[originalpckelly]

23. "Mr. Chairman, the Gentlemember, Madokie, is spitting coffee all over the rostrum."

"Madokie, please refrain from future outbursts of coffee."

[spanone]

25. please, nasal starbucks are inherently out of order....

[Voice for Peace]

44. LOL! Yep. nt

[halobeam]

22. Right Davis... all missing email's were labeled incorrectly

I'm getting dizzy ... again!

[spanone]

24. this shit is really hard to watch.....waxman should tell the 'minority' to shut the fuck up

[halobeam]

27. he's usually reliable for a few good zingers.

Let's see how they try to circumvent the questions, because that's what seems to jerk his chain, in particular.

[Touchdown]

26. Ralph Nader would've had hearings last week.

The Democrats are nothing but time wasters.:silly:

[spanone]

29. ralph who?

[Touchdown]

32. I know. I'm a baaaad boy.

:spank:

[halobeam]

28. "If it is determined there are missing email's".... huh?

oh he's spouting the Fratto new spin....

[spanone]

30. well sir, if they are not missing, produce them. Now. Immediately.

[halobeam]

31. it is so obvious, it's mind-boggling

[spanone]

33. uh, sir, where are the e-mails? cut the crap.

here comes the bullshit alert.....

[halobeam]

34. so they want us to prove they don't exist..... proving a negative?

we asked for them, they said they were gone. Patrick Fitzgerald spoke regarding this during the Libby trial. WH said they didn't have them. Now they say they aren't missing. So...

give them to us. Holy God.

[malaise]

37. Thanks

Watching -who is this woman?

[halobeam]

38. I believe

Theresa Payton, Chief Information Officer, Office of Administration

[malaise]

41. Thanks n/t

[buzzard]

39. I can't get the live streaming to work is there anywhere else to watch this?

[halobeam]

40. did you try this link?

http://www.capitolhearings.org/

[Breeze54]

43. This is the direct link to the stream - It uses WMP

http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1765

[buzzard]

47. Don't know what I am dong wrong but it doesn't work for me.

[halobeam]

49. summary so far...

panel witness were told by WH they are trying to get emails... and Waxman was told by RNC as of yesterday... the WH never requested any info to get missing emails.

[buzzard]

52. Thanks.n/t

[Breeze54]

50. Do you have Windows Media Player installed on your computer?

Is it up to date or have you updated it? :shrug:

OK...at the very bottom of the Capital Hearings schedule page is says: Hearings require the free RealPlayer

Sorry about that.

Maybe it's just my computer insisting on using WMP.

Do you have RealPlayer on your computer? Is that up to date?

Try opening RealPlayer and paste this link in the browser on RP.
http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1765

[buzzard]

56. Tried it I think I will give up and check back here for updates. Thanks

[halobeam]

42. Waxman asking Weinstein whether he's concerned about

the years of missing Rove emails using RNC leading up to the war (that period of time)...

"oh yes, we are concerned".. blech

Waxman states Rove's RNC emails are "rule not exception" for his correspondence...

Directs this to Stern and Weinstein, reiterating they asked what steps are being taken to restore emials...
and now asking has WH taken steps to restore emails? Weinstein said WH said the process is incomplete.. and they are "trying" and now heard from RNC they aren't doing that..(Stern said)

RNC told Waxman yesterday... WH taken no effort.

[malaise]

45. Are these people graduates of

Fundie universities?

[halobeam]

53. sounds like.

They have nothing for this hearing. Nothing at all.

[Breeze54]

46. They sent letters asking for staff to "pretty pwease" send us those RNC e-mails...

Yeah, like that's going to happen!! :crazy:

And they still haven't found any e-mails? BS!!!

That guy testifying sounds like a 'scared wabbit"!

[halobeam]

51. right, but at the same time... "what missing email's?"

[Breeze54]

54. That's the * Co. mantra! -- "huh? What?"

Asshole criminals!

[halobeam]

55. yet it'll cost 15 milliion to recover "non-missing emails"

oh I wish we could question them for just ten freakin' minutes!

[Breeze54]

59. Yeah and with a rubber hose!

I heard that. $15 Million? Huh? They just want to steal/borrow even
more $$ and make it disappear, just like the $30 (?) billion missing in Iraq!!

[jtrockville]

48. Thank you for posting this. (nt)

[L. Coyote]

57. K & R & Impeach two too. It is time to construct ....

It is time to construct an e-mail timeline with analysis of what transpires during the missing times.

[halobeam]

58. LOL Davis says, "this is email, it's fairly new" a decade new.

:rofl:

[Breeze54]

60. roflmao!

Did he just say that Rove may not want to share an e-mail he sent or received from his girlfriend? Wha?! :P

[halobeam]

61. yeah, and he called us "peeping toms"

hypocrite!! Bet he voted to spy on every American... the ultimate voyeur.

edit to correct.. ISSA called us that... twice now.:rofl:

[Breeze54]

62. Answer the ?! -"R there any official Docs, that by law should've been archived by the WH, on the RNC

e-mail server? Do any of you know of any thing used by Karl Rove
or of him using the RNC to circumvent and evade the WH e-mail/archives?"

Wow!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. Edited.... Didn't someone have the website RNC.com and received a bunch of emails

from WH employees?

The actual RNC site is RNC.org

[Subdivisions]

64. Greg Palast, I think...n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

68. OK. my mistake it GeorgeWBush.org. Here is a snip from a Palast article

However, Griffin made a wee mistake. Instead of sending the emails — potential evidence of a crime — to email addresses ending with the domain name “@GeorgeWBush.com” he sent them to “@GeorgeWBush.ORG.” A website run by prankster John Wooden who owns “GeorgeWBush.org.” When Wooden got the treasure trove of Rove-ian ravings, he sent them to us.

http://www.gregpalast.com/bushs-new-us-attorney-a-criminal/

[halobeam]

65. MICA .. another one stating email's a "new era"....

jees.. takes a decade to get a clue how to archive them?

[halobeam]

66. cut the mic.... on MICA...

lol Waxman does.. and says.. has nothing to do w/ this hearing.

[spanone]

sandy berger....what a crock of shit

[Breeze54]

67. Are you kidding me!?! This asshat is again yelling; "Clinton! Clinton!"

And he's bringing up Sandy Berger? :wtf: What is this fucking assholes name??

[halobeam]

69. Go at it Watson... lol "It's a simple question, yes or no!"

[Subdivisions]

70. WHAT THE FUCK???

JUST GIVE THEM THE GODDAMNED EMAILS!!!

[spanone]

71. the emails have been destroyed by the white house....begin impeachment hearings....now

i want to know what is in the goddam emails. why the stonewalling....what arrogance. the peoples' business.

[halobeam]

72. Tierney... addressing missing Cheney emails

[spanone]

74. ...related to valerie plame wilson !

[Breeze54]

73. No e-mails to be found at all on Oct. 1st and had to to with Valerie Plame Wilson.

What happened to them? Hmmm? Inquiring minds want to know!!!

[spanone]

75. 'we have not finished our analysis'.....= stonewalling

[Subdivisions]

76. And she's referring to a "Phase 2" which = enough time that

booosh will be out of office -- maybe.

[spanone]

77. 17 million emails....bullshit numbers..stonewalling

[spanone]

78. what the hell is that question? california epa standards? clinton administration? WTF?

[halobeam]

80. ZOOM... guy is "out there" .. may as well discuss the space wars, too.

[Breeze54]

79. Who is this guy that keeps taking the hearing to Clinton's presidency?

Why isn't Waxman cutting this operative off?!

He's asking about EPA docs? From back before 2000???

[Breeze54]

84. He's actually blaming a change in SW, that they failed to implement, on Clinton!

He just won't quit with the thinly veiled accusations & remarks!

[halobeam]

81. Waxman needs to cut into this idiot...

make clear this isn't about the Clinton administration.

[spanone]

82. gentlemans time has fucking expired....yessir mr waxman

[Subdivisions]

83. Er...eh...what's this new-fangled thing they're talking about called

"e-mail"?

[spanone]

86. this is amazing....our incompetent goverment in it's full glory

[Subdivisions]

87. I just checked my Outlook Express and my storage...

I have emails on my computer right now that go all the way back to 2004. And the emails I have from before that are on a CD I can see from where I'm sitting.

[Breeze54]

93. What?! You can actually store e-mails on a CD?!

:sarcasm:

Because the earlier guy said that they weren't sure how they would "store" the e-mails for the archives!!!

Such liars or dumbasses!

[Winterblues]

124. Almost positive it has something to do with a series of tubes.

:shrug:

[Breeze54]

127. LMAO!

:P

[halobeam]

85. What's this guys name that just talked about comps being scrubbed/washed?

I can't see it on the screen.

Waxman needs to get her ass into a hearing.


panel woman calls it "process", when it's a crime. Holy crap.

[spanone]

88. mr waxman, let's call all sixty contractors in to testify...someone did the deed

[halobeam]

90. Henry isn't interjecting here much at all... not w/ comment yet.

Oh Henry!....

[halobeam]

89. There it is... can't talk about this classified info.

[Breeze54]

91. I don't know but that looks like an Impeach Bush button on his lapel!

:P

[spanone]

94. the white house has done NOTHING to comply with request....on behalf of the national archives

to retrieve the e-mails

this guy is good

[Breeze54]

96. Of course they haven't... they've been wiped clean off the RNC servers!

[halobeam]

95. Thats right. No one from WH on panel to show they've take one concrete step.

Subpeona them, but they won't show.

Write stern letter.

They will iggy you.

Contempt charge? Check.

next?

nothing.

edit to add: after nothing....

Hold hearings on steriod use in gymnastics.

[Breeze54]

115. oops

[halobeam]

97. Are the dentures in this guys mouth loose or what!?!

:wtf:

[Subdivisions]

98. The WHITE HOUSE had a "primitive" computer/email system?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???

I don't even have a "pimitive" system on my desk. It's state of the art! Why do I have state of the art equipment and capability and the WHITE HOUSE does not?

[halobeam]

99. Norton is nailing her ass. Great JOB!

[jtrockville]

She's amazing. Did you see her recent performance on Colbert?

[halobeam]

101. no I missed it... maybe it's on crooks and liars.. I'll have to check

[jtrockville]

126. Comedy central has it.

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=156306

I think it was on Feb 12th.

[halobeam]

100. Why did Waxman just say he'll leave this question of Norton's "rhetorical"??

[Subdivisions]

102. I hope it's only because Ms. Payton refused to give a satifactory answer. n/t

[halobeam]

103. Waxman is allowed to take time at any time, correct?

He's not interjecting in many important points that are being revealed.

[Subdivisions]

105. Frustrating, huh? Let's hope he's taking it all in and will

have plenty to say at the conclusion.

[halobeam]

104. LOL... we'll be a "10" after this administration ends.

well, I bet you can only go "up"!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

106. Sandy Berger again!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[spanone]

107. asshole

issa

[Subdivisions]

108. Good. Issa loses! n/t

[halobeam]

109. BIG

[spanone]

110. asshole, your time is up

[The empressof all]

118. When is he up for re election? This year or next?

He has got to be one of the most repulsive Reps out there. I'm not in CA. but I'll send money to what ever Dem is running against him. What an ASS.

[halobeam]

122. great point. I'll do the same.

I've only contributed to Lamont for the same reasons. Now I'll have to act on this with Issa. He is quite repulsive.

[spanone]

111. mr cummings is good....listen close

[Subdivisions]

112. Now it's the summer! A FULL YEAR since they first promised

the emails!

[spanone]

125. they ARE running out the clock....and everyone knows it.....c'mon henry

[halobeam]

114. OK Waxman, we are disappointed and WH clearly isn't following the law..

what now?

the stern letter route?

[Breeze54]

117. Waxman knows the WH is stalling... and that woman --

I seriously doubt she'll be working at the archives come 2009! ;)

[Breeze54]

116. Damn... I thought they were going to start duking it out!

Kapow! Wham! Zap!

[halobeam]

119. I think Gonzo resigned to achieve full-time multi shape-shifting capabilities.

[Breeze54]

120. But still stupid, ugly and wearing corrective lenses!

:P

:rofl:

[halobeam]

121. yes, but don't you agree he could've corrected the articulation aspect of one of them?

I've never heard such a poor speaker, the one who they kept telling to "speak up", hardly opened his mouth while speaking, as if his "Fixodent" malfunctioned this morning!

[Breeze54]

123. Hell yeah but it was as effective as "I don't recal! I don't remember! I don't know! I don't recall!

"I really don't recall and I know 71 times is a lot!"