What are the chances that history will vindicate BushCo?

[sabra]

Poll question: What are the chances that history will vindicate BushCo?

It appears that latest talking point coming from BushCo is that history will prove them right...

[ThomWV]

1. Historians will not react favorably to the most secrete Administration in history

They will take it as an insult and will forever dam the Bush Administration for it.

[Turbineguy]

2. If the world changes enough

he will be right. Like if my Grandson will ride a flying pig to the moon to have lunch.

[L. Coyote]

3. First VOTE = Other, since we don't know who will write it yet!

After the first 80 years of Spanish Conquest in the Americas, about 60 million "souls" had died.

No problem, that worst genocide in human history, the King just signed a decree making it illegal to write "anything" about the Natives.

Sahagún's General History was singled out in a royal decree dated on April 22, 1577. The Royal Decree relative to the General History of the Things of New Spain reads (my translation from the Spanish in the Codice Franciscano):

"The King. - Mr. Martin Enriquez, our Viceroy, Governor and Captain General of New Spain, and President of our Royal Audience thereof. From some letters which you have written us we have understood that Brother Bernardino of Sahagún of the Order of Saint Francis has composed a Universal History of the most noted things of New Spain, which is a very copious computation of the rites, ceremonies and idolatries which the indians used in their infidelity, divided into twelve books and in the Mexican language; and though it is understood that the zeal of said Brother Bernardino has been good, and with the wish that his work bear fruit, it does not seem convenient that this book be printed or distributed in any form in those parts, for (some origins of consideration) several reasons; and so we command you that after you receive this our decree, with much diligence you procure those books and without there remaining original or some translation, you send them with good security on the first occasion to our Council of the Indies, for their review; and you are given notice to not consent that in any form some person write things which appertain to superstitions and the way of life which these indians had, in any language, because so agrees with service to God, our Lord, and (with) our (service)." Madrid, 22nd of April of 1577. Signed: "I the King"

Sahagún naively wrote to King Philip II in 1578, saying he could copy the books again if the volumes had not been properly delivered. This prompted renewed, stricter orders depriving Sahagún of all manuscripts still in his possession (Dibble 1982:35-36) including the Florentine Codex. .....

http://www.jqjacobs.net/anthro/cannibalism.html

[guitar man]

4. right wing history

or actual history? There is a special right wing "information" bureau now. Faux News, AM radio, now "Conservapedia" and the list goes on. For those who insist on drinking from those toilets, their "history" will show that Bu$hco was just hunky-dory until they were "victimized by the liberal media conspiracy"

Actual world history, especially from the outside-the-US point of view is going to be damn harsh.

[Swamp Rat]

5. None, and those who defended him will be charbroiled.

[sabra]

6. LOL - you just made me spit my coffee all over the keyboard

[smoogatz]

7. That depends who's writing the history books.

If we complete our long slide into full-on fascism, no doubt the official histories will revere Bush as one of the New Founders. If a miracle occurs and we continue on as a more-or-less constitutional republic, history will regard Bush as an object lesson in what not to do as president, pretty much across the board. His train-wreck of a presidency will also be a warning to those who, in the interests of seizing and retaining power, would subvert the electoral will of the people: to do so is to place the nation and the republic at grave risk of destruction.

[Hydra]

8. Bushco owns the historians

and anyone who doesn't sing the way they want will end up in Gitmo.

I expect they will talk about how GWB saved the world from scourge of Islam and how he "Rose to the challenge to become a great leader and a visionary."

I hold no faith that the people will revolt against this. They sat quietly as we lied, invaded, imprisoned without charge, tortured and spied on Americans. They will do the same as we rewrite history.

[El Pinko]

9. It worked with St. Ronnie for 3 reasons...

1. Ronnie had a great deal of charisma and was a genuinely likeable person despite his horrible policies. POS Bush is unlikeable and stupid and stubborn.

2. The 80s started off in a terrible funk, but overall, the economy was good (while deficits exploded) and there is a lot of nostalgia for a period of relative peace and prosperity - there was a lot of good music, fun pop culture, etc. Somehow, I doubt that the 00's will be remembered as fondly. It has been a rather grueling period of history in so many ways.

3. Reagan had pretty high approval ratings thru most of his prresidency. Bush has hit record lows time and again.



I think he will be remembered as a failed president a la Carter, except people will probably give him credit for being "strong on defense" :puke:

[ReformedChris]

11. You nailed it on number 1: That charisma and "Reagan Charm" seduced many to the dark side..

American's always respond well to eloquent speeches and words that resound with entitling individuality. Reagan gave them that. I will always wonder what Carter would be remembered like if he defeated Reagan in that election. If things had turned around during his presidency i feel Carter would have a much stronger reputation all around, not just in Democratic circles. Reagan's policies helped put us in the bind we are in today (endless defecit spending and a lack of overall direction nationally). I think Reagans legacy will tarnish some over time. Not by much, but still enough for historians to look at him more skeptically.

[ReformedChris]

10. Horribly, But the Bu$hCo Bots will always point out "There wasn't another 9/11"

And that will make my blood boil forever. Thousands of wasted American lives, Hundreds of Thousands of Iraqi's killed, and untold wasted Trillions will hopefully sound out the Bush apologists. You can hear the Repukes like Hannity just orgasming for Bush to cross the finish line without any more terrorit events. I never root for an attack, but I hope history and the American people are smart enough to see what a sorry sack of shit GWB really was and always will be. As I put in a post yesterday: Satans Skidmark!

[enid602]

12. convince

Well, some people have tried to convince the public that the Clinton era was actually part of the Clinton-Bush era, so I guess some people will believe anything you tell them.